atheist and proud

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

i dont know what to beleive...i wish i had the answers...i do know that the farther from god/church/christianity the country has gotten...the worse things have been...thats not even remotely debateable

 

[exphys88]

There's a good reason why. It never will be explained using material based methods as neither are material based problems.

Once something is figured out or explained, it leaves the realm of supernatural. To me, supernatural is similar to magical and can't be explained, it just is.

 

[exphys88]

i dont know what to beleive...i wish i had the answers...i do know that the farther from god/church/christianity the country has gotten...the worse things have been...thats not even remotely debateable

You mean that we should go back to slavery and treating women like second class citizens? The good Ol days...

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

yeah

 

[exphys88]

i dont know what to beleive...i wish i had the answers...i do know that the farther from god/church/christianity the country has gotten...the worse things have been...thats not even remotely debateable

Our standard of living has skyrocketed, and it can be mostly attributed to technological advances, not religion. So, actually it's very debatable.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

america doesnt resemble the ideals the founding fathers had in mind...might as well be a dictatorship at this point....hope you dont have more than 7 days worth groceries



middle class get raped....rich get discounts...america, land of the free...lol

 

[exphys88]

america doesnt resemble the ideals the founding fathers had in mind...might as well be a dictatorship at this point....hope you dont have more than 7 days worth groceries



middle class get raped....rich get discounts...america, land of the free...lol

I don't disagree w any if this, I just don't think our problems are lack of religion. And, although things are seeming pretty shitty, we're much better off than our ancestors.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

what i was talking about are christian values...like its a noble thing to be a preacher...try to lead people to lead a good,moralistic life...but look at joyce myer...giant mansions,jet airplanes...

everyone looks for loopholes now...greed rules...hell its only natural

imo it used to be about how hard you worked...now its all about finding a way to rip people off...there is no respect for anything or anyone...nothing is held sacred

 

[exphys88]

what i was talking about are christian values...like its a noble thing to be a preacher...try to lead people to lead a good,moralistic life...but look at joyce myer...giant mansions,jet airplanes...

everyone looks for loopholes now...greed rules...hell its only natural

imo it used to be about how hard you worked...now its all about finding a way to rip people off...there is no respect for anything or anyone...nothing is held sacred

Agreed, except those morals aren't exclusive to Christianity. Many cultures have great morals without Christianity. Japan is a great example.

 

[BP2000]

I don't disagree w any if this, I just don't think our problems are lack of religion. And, although things are seeming pretty shitty, we're much better off than our ancestors.

that is precisely why thing's are "shitty". Our technology has outpaced our spiritual advancement. Spirituality give you a wholeness that nothing else can replace because we are spiritual beings not material being's. When we realize this things will get brighter. That is what everyone yearns for is wholeness.

It's like a fish on land for it's entire life. Then it finally finds some water and jumps in and says wholly fuck this is what I really need

 

[exphys88]

that is precisely why thing's are "shitty". Our technology has outpaced our spiritual advancement. Spirituality give you a wholeness that nothing else can replace because we are spiritual beings not material being's. When we realize this things will get brighter. That is what everyone yearns for is wholeness.

It's like a fish on land for it's entire life. Then it finally finds some water and jumps in and says wholly fuck this is what I really need

Define "spiritual being" for me.

 

[BP2000]

spiritual as in not material. Your real self is "higher" or spiritual. Your consciousness is your real self. Body is just a house for your consciousness. Your consciousness can be projected outside of your body right?

You were meant to have dominion over everything material. As Einstein said, matter is just energy. Spiritual energy is energy that vibrates at a higher rate than denser matter like what your body is made of. He theorized correctly that E=m2 which states matter and energy are the same thing.

 

[BP2000]

Thus "God" in scientific term's in just energy. Everything that was made was made from God <---Bible quote.

Our world is made up of the same shit as in "heaven" Just spiritual energy that has been lowered in vibration to made it seem dense.

Basically everything in the same shit. It's an illusion that it's not.

 

[BP2000]

That is why God say's Atheist are just confused. lol sense of humor out of love

 

[BP2000]

Ye are God's ----another bible quote.

We are basically "borrowing" part of God itself. It is a supreme gift to be alive and do what we choose with part of his self.

 

[exphys88]

Oh geez. I can assure you that I'm not very spiritual and I lead a very moral, satisfying and fulfilling life. I don't need to believe in god to be good, nor do I need to think there is an afterlife to be content w my life.

 

[exphys88]

You do realize that 79% of the world is nonchristian and most of them are happy, moral people.

 

[BP2000]

It is complex man. Life is complex. There is no way to say there is no higher order of things. And you would be very prideful to say that you know the order of thing's. Better like Prince said to be agnostic. At least that is more humble saying that you don't know.

Earth is a tiny speck of dust in the macrocosmic world.

 

[exphys88]

It is complex man. Life is complex. There is no way to say there is no higher order of things. And you would be very prideful to say that you know the order of thing's. Better like Prince said to be agnostic. At least that is more humble saying that you don't know.

Earth is a tiny speck of dust in the macrocosmic world.

Agnostic means that they don't know what they believe. I know that I don't believe in god. This is not the same as saying, "I know there is no god.". That would be as absurd as a religious person claiming that they know there is a god.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

You do realize that 79% of the world is nonchristian and most of them are happy, moral people.

not here...where im from(america)...kids shoot each other...banks rob the people that make deposits...the country gives all its jobs and money to other countrys for no aparent reason...all our freedoms are slowly but surely disapearing

usa...its a cesspool...a big toilet...sure its not the worse...there are far worse...but its a shell of its former glory


lol at the majority of people being good moralistic people....its quite obvious...most would stab you in the back...take your wallet and then laugh at the reality show showing your kids starving


it is no longer cool to be patriotic or even good

rims,drugs and fame

 

[BP2000]

But how are you not just as absurd saying you claim to know there is not a God.

 

[BP2000]

So we should worship you because you are all knowing. Your religion is there is not a God and therefore there is an alternative to bring this shitty world into a more beautiful peaceful co existence.

 

[exphys88]

not here...where im from(america)...kids shoot each other...banks rob the people that make deposits...the country gives all its jobs and money to other countrys for no aparent reason...all our freedoms are slowly but surely disapearing

usa...its a cesspool...a big toilet...sure its not the worse...there are far worse...but its a shell of its former glory


lol at the majority of people being good moralistic people....its quite obvious...most would stab you in the back...take your wallet and then laugh at the reality show showing your kids starving


it is no longer cool to be patriotic or even good

rims,drugs and fame

America is predominantly christian

 

[exphys88]

So we should worship you because you are all knowing. Your religion is there is not a God and therefore there is an alternative to bring this shitty world into a more beautiful peaceful co existence.

You obviously didn't read my post, I said I don't believe in god, but I also don't claim to know for certainty whether there is one or not. Your claim that there is a god w no proof is idiotic.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

i dont see it...but i wasnt trying to say "jesus" is the answer to those problems...i think its respect...putting something before yourself...old school values...but where did most old school values come from

 

[exphys88]

not here...where im from(america)...kids shoot each other...banks rob the people that make deposits...the country gives all its jobs and money to other countrys for no aparent reason...all our freedoms are slowly but surely disapearing

usa...its a cesspool...a big toilet...sure its not the worse...there are far worse...but its a shell of its former glory


lol at the majority of people being good moralistic people....its quite obvious...most would stab you in the back...take your wallet and then laugh at the reality show showing your kids starving


it is no longer cool to be patriotic or even good

rims,drugs and fame

Again, I agree w this description. I just don't think that believing in virgin births and resurrections are the answer. I'm good for the sake of being good, not fear if hell.

 

[BP2000]

33,3% so named as 'christian'
66.6% so named as 'non- christian'

Yet ultimately all 100% are sentient beings flowing the same red color blood within, living on one tiny dot of sand in the infinite river of stars, galaxies, universes.Yet this earthly sentient beings are at such a primitive state of its development, arguing about their existence and through greed, hatred and delusions, endanger themselves.

 

[exphys88]

i dont see it...but i wasnt trying to say "jesus" is the answer to those problems...i think its respect...putting something before yourself...old school values...but where did most old school values come from

You are right, we don't have these values, and they are the values of Jesus, but they're also the values of many Buddhists, and other philosophers.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

You are right, we don't have these values, and they are the values of Jesus, but they're also the values of many Buddhists, and other philosophers.

yep

 

[mario_ps2]

Anyone that does not believe God exists is an IDIOT....(no pun intended)

How can you not believe in God?!!! Look around you..God is everywhere...

Whether you believe in God or not.. We all human beings have one eternal destination for our rest of our eternity.. in Heaven or Hell...

Which side are you going to choose?