Blood work says it all

[OfficerFarva]

I have NEVER been burned by ChemOneResearch or ResearchStop.

ResearchStop's products have worked very well for me. Their customer service is really good to. They don't normally ship to Canada but we worked something out

 

[heavyiron]

Wife is running clen, we'll see how it goes.

What do you think about letro on cycle? Seems like it would be detrimental.

Letro is no different from running Adex. Pretty much the same.

 

[heavyiron]

ResearchStop's products have worked very well for me. Their customer service is really good to. They don't normally ship to Canada but we worked something out

Yup, they are well known for high quality by all the vets.

 

[Kwabby6]

Extreme Peptide.....

i did like thier clen... too bad their clomid is BUNK

HOLY SHIT! SAME HERE! I got their liquid clomid too and had a feeling their shit was fucking bunk. didnt feel shit on it. if you check my latest thread I posted how I got tested on my 3rd week of pct (which test levels should be high although they are pseudo) and they were only at 190....had a fucking feeling.

 

[bigbenj]

Letro is no different from running Adex. Pretty much the same.

I mean as far as running a course of it to try and get rid of lumps. I know how to run it for gyno reduction, but 2.5 of letro seems like it would reduce e2 to unhealthy levels, and be detrimental to my current cycle.

 

[Kwabby6]

This is the reason i stopped all research a i, i took heavy's advise and bought all human grade gear, more expensive yes, but well worth it.

....aaaand this is what i'll be doing from now on. UG and research chems are too risky for me.

 

[heavyiron]

I mean as far as running a course of it to try and get rid of lumps. I know how to run it for gyno reduction, but 2.5 of letro seems like it would reduce e2 to unhealthy levels, and be detrimental to my current cycle.

Letro reduces E2 about 50% in men. No different from Adex. All the internet parrots think Letro is so strong because they are reading the female data. It has zero application to men.

 

[returnofthdragon]

50% at what dose?

 

[heavyiron]

50% at what dose?

2.5mg Letro per day

 

[heavyiron]

J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Oct;90(10):5717-22. Epub 2005 Jul 26.

Comparative assessment in young and elderly men of the gonadotropin response to aromatase inhibition.

T'Sjoen GG, Giagulli VA, Delva H, Crabbe P, De Bacquer D, Kaufman JM.
Department of Endocrinology, Ghent University Hospital, De Pintelaan 185, 9000 Ghent, Belgium. guy.tsjoen@ugent.be

Abstract

CONTEXT: Aging in men is associated with a decline in serum testosterone (T) levels.
OBJECTIVE: Our objective was to assess whether decreased T in aging might result from increased estradiol (E2) negative feedback on gonadotropin secretion.
DESIGN AND SETTING: We conducted a comparative intervention study (2004) in the Outpatient Endocrinology Clinic, Ghent University Hospital.
PARTICIPANTS: Participants included healthy young and elderly men (n = 10 vs. 10).
INTERVENTIONS: We used placebo and letrozole (2.5 mg/d) for 28 d, separated by 2 wk washout.
MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: We assessed changes in serum levels of free E2, LH, and FSH, free T, SHBG, and gonadotropins response to an i.v. 2.5-microg GnRH bolus.
RESULTS: As assessed after 28 d of treatment, letrozole lowered E2 by 46% in the young men (P = 0.002) and 62% in the elderly men (P < 0.001). In both age groups, letrozole, but not placebo, significantly increased LH levels (339 and 323% in the young and the elderly, respectively) and T (146 and 99%, respectively) (P value of young vs. elderly was not significant). Under letrozole, peak LH response to GnRH was 152 and 52% increase from baseline in young and older men, respectively (P = 0.01).
CONCLUSIONS: Aromatase inhibition markedly increased basal LH and T levels and the LH response to GnRH in both young and elderly men. The observation of similar to greater LH responses in the young compared with the elderly does not support the hypothesis that increased restraining of LH secretion by endogenous estrogens is instrumental in age-related decline of Leydig cell function.


PMID: 16046582 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

[returnofthdragon]

Nice. Thanks.

 

[Roaddkingg]

Thanks for that information heavy.
I was under the impression that letro was much stronger than adex, now I know.
From everything I have ever tried and heard from others adc always is legit.
I have never had a lot of faith in research chems and this just goes to prove it.

 

[juiceball44]

good info here, i don't know how much lower it can get than selling bunk pct stuff. geez talking about taking away someones manhood (natty test) to make a buck

They deserved to be fucking castrated for that shit

 

[exphys88]

Thanks for that information heavy.
I was under the impression that letro was much stronger than adex, now I know.
From everything I have ever tried and heard from others adc always is legit.
I have never had a lot of faith in research chems and this just goes to prove it.

Yeah, I've only seen good reviews about adc. But, their supposedly hg aromasin had the label upside down and my estradiol was 176 while using 25 mg/day.

 

[SloppyJ]

Researchstop is legit.

But my favorite is manpower.

I tried ADC once and got burned. Fuck those towel heads.

 

[Hell]

Manpower's Cialis, Viagra, Adex, T3, and caber are all g2g. And he's fast as hell!!

 

[acemon]

My shoulder is killing my today. It feels dry and achy. I'm also feel tired today. I think my arimidex from CEM is good. Last time my shoulder felt like this my estrodial was within an acceptable range. I hope this is a way for me to tell that my body is where it should be at in terms of estrodial levels. I really had to dose the hell out of the arimidex.

Does anyone else have to "load-up" with arimidex?

 

[heavyiron]

My shoulder is killing my today. It feels dry and achy. I'm also feel tired today. I think my arimidex from CEM is good. Last time my shoulder felt like this my estrodial was within an acceptable range. I hope this is a way for me to tell that my body is where it should be at in terms of estrodial levels. I really had to dose the hell out of the arimidex.

Does anyone else have to "load-up" with arimidex?

Get labs brother. Shoulder pain is a very unreliable indicator of E2.

 

[Evil Eagle]

Just tossed all my chems from EP. Two failed PCTs on their shit was enough for me. The cialis I got from Researchstop was legit. But I just ordered from MP because I've read nothing but good things.

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[SloppyJ]

I chunked all my EP shit a long time ago.

Last cycle I kickstarted with prop. I was on EP's aromasin at 25mg ED. I gained 20lbs in 3 weeks. Needless to say I got legit stuff and shit canned the rest. Fucking scammers.

 

[acemon]

Get labs brother. Shoulder pain is a very unreliable indicator of E2.

I will post my latest lab results when I get them(perhaps tomorrow). I loaded up on arimidex @2mg yesterday. One mg this morning roughly 4 hours before my test and just for good measure I did another 1mg this evening. That should it i hope. My joints are achy as hell and I feel lethargic.

I kind of feel like Charlie brown when he misses kicking the football. You know, with the little rotating halo above his head.

 

[heavyiron]

I will post my latest lab results when I get them(perhaps tomorrow). I loaded up on arimidex @2mg yesterday. One mg this morning roughly 4 hours before my test and just for good measure I did another 1mg this evening. That should it i hope. My joints are achy as hell and I feel lethargic.

I kind of feel like Charlie brown when he misses kicking the football. You know, with the little rotating halo of angst above his head.

That's a hefty amount of Adex in 48 hours.

 

[rc771]

ar-r always has good stuff, adex, letro, t3, dutasteride, have all been good.

but i won't use them for pct, i just order the real shit.

 

[jimm]

so after my last cycle i ran my ptc. 3 weeks after completing it i got my bloodwork done to check cholesterol, liver values, lh, test, ect ect.

it came back and my total test was 70ng. my hdl was low but all other values looked great.

the doctor told was flabbergasted lol. asked if i did steroids and such.

i explained that i had. and done the ptc to the T. even did an extra week. hcg and all according to the 'first cycle and ptc' thread lol.

so bottom line is we figured the clomid was bunk.... and guess whose it was? (no longer a member on this board)

let the games begin.

ps. i only wanted this out there to help my bro's out. the shit is BUNK.

Was it extreme peptide they sold me bunk shit!

 

[bobdylan]

I thought I was getting human grade from adc, but got bunk aromasin from them.

What? how do you know?

Hope this ain't true just got 60 tabs of the Generic Aromasin from them too.

My buddy has ran it before and said it was good.

I just switched from some research grade adex to this so I will see how it goes.

 

[TGB1987]

ChemOne was always good to me but a little pricey (worth it to know it is the real deal though) . I have been using Transdermal Formestane for my AI recently and I don't think I will ever go back to anything else for an AI again. Also this is a legal supplement for now. Can't beat it.

 

[acemon]

I got my results and my e2 us even higher. The only thing I can do now is try aromasin. I hope it works. Man I am frustrated. I'm thinking of running it @25mg twice a day.

 

[heavyiron]

I got my results and my e2 us even higher. The only thing I can do now is try aromasin. I hope it works. Man I am frustrated. I'm thinking of running it @25mg twice a day.

What exactly were your results brother?

 

[acemon]

Thanks heavy. Now my e2 is 254. I can't figure this out. I figured I was completely over dosing the arimidex. What should I do now?

 

[heavyiron]

Thanks heavy. Now my e2 is 254. I can't figure this out. I figured I was completely over dosing the arimidex. What should I do now?

The Adex is underdosed. Find a new source.