Free Gear Testing Giveaway

[Hench]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/155682-cycle-blood-results.html

 

[vannesb]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/155682-cycle-blood-results.html

Thanks bro

 

[BIGBEN2011]

yea guys i was not saying that this is a bad idea the more testing the better.i was suprised z was even having to do any thing to prove his stuff it is just well known his shit is good.i know from past runs with z his test is g2g.most ugl test are g2g it is the more exotic stuff that somtimes is just test any way.i will be runing some of z line npp waiting any day on a td.will let everbody know hopefully soon.

 

[OldSchoolLifter]

Exactly ^^^

I think this should have been thought through a bit more.

Heavy,

OD and Z, are doing the best they can to prove that gear is still of the highest quality, do you really think that the testers will get "special batches" that are higher quality than the rest?

NO...

You know darn well, OD and Z constantly do Mass Spec testing on all oils and raws before going out, minus this little hiccup with the dom while OD was gone, that is now fixed.

I am no longer a rep, but I can testify the amount of testing and quality control both OD and Z put into every line of product they carry.

You also know that Z, And OD are always open to suggestions, ideas, and members input to better their service, and increase the quality to a higher degree.

No other source besides Z puts that much effort into making sure the quality is of the highest regard, and if anyone disagrees, than you all are sadly mistaken.

Sorry to Hijack, Continue on with the thread, just my .02 cents.

 

[D-Lats]

Exactly ^^^

I think this should have been thought through a bit more.

 

[BP2000]

No other source besides Z puts that much effort into making sure the quality is of the highest regard, and if anyone disagrees, than you all are sadly mistaken.

Sorry to Hijack, Continue on with the thread, just my .02 cents.

If that it true what you say then maybe Z can do a better job of advertising the "rigourous" testing that he does. Because perception is reality. And the latest we have to go by was testing done by a random member that showed less than stellar results as posted above.

My suggestion is to get a random vial purity tested by a certified lab every few month's and post it on the forum/website to show all potential customer's. I know of other sources that do this and show their test is overdosed on a consistant basis and that is a huge selling point. No one want's to buy underdosed gear and only 1 mistake or lapse in business can ruin your cred. JMO.

 

[ordawg1]

All suggsetions and comments appreciated. OK-who else would like to get in on testing ? Thanks-OD

 

[heavyiron]

I sent this to OD a while ago;

I was thinking you could tell the guys that anyone who orders Cyp this month that gets labs will be put into a drawing to get a store credit or something. This way no one will know who is getting the cyp.

Must have at least 500 posts?

This will be way more random but also may not get many takers. IDK.

 

[Lang]

well i am not trying for the free gear plus it proves nothing this way i mean do you really think any company is going to send the tester bad gear really how dumb do you think we are really.i am waiting on some z gear with hg two diff brandes ep brand and zline interl brand.and i wont need to have blood work to tell if it is g2g results will tell that. and i will be telling everyone here about my results.

Strait! A true experiment must be random, this really does prove nothing. If you want to show efficacious results you'll need a larger sample size and random selection to start with.

Lang

 

[ordawg1]

I sent this to OD a while ago;

I was thinking you could tell the guys that anyone who orders Cyp this month that gets labs will be put into a drawing to get a store credit or something. This way no one will know who is getting the cyp.

Must have at least 500 posts?

This will be way more random but also may not get many takers. IDK.

We are looking at this as is a great idea. This one we are doing now is more to give guys a chance to try gear and learn testing protocol. As normal we are constantly running testing on batches leaving both intl and dom to assure quality.Thanks for input to all-OD

 

[bigbenj]

well i am not trying for the free gear plus it proves nothing this way i mean do you really think any company is going to send the tester bad gear really how dumb do you think we are really.i am waiting on some z gear with hg two diff brandes ep brand and zline interl brand.and i wont need to have blood work to tell if it is g2g results will tell that. and i will be telling everyone here about my results.

You nailed it right on the head. User feedback is what I care about. Random blood tests by random members is what I care about, not the sponsor telling people they'll send them gear to test.

 

[OTG85]

Heavy,

OD and Z, are doing the best they can to prove that gear is still of the highest quality, do you really think that the testers will get "special batches" that are higher quality than the rest?

NO...

You know darn well, OD and Z constantly do Mass Spec testing on all oils and raws before going out, minus this little hiccup with the dom while OD was gone, that is now fixed.

I am no longer a rep, but I can testify the amount of testing and quality control both OD and Z put into every line of product they carry.

You also know that Z, And OD are always open to suggestions, ideas, and members input to better their service, and increase the quality to a higher degree.

No other source besides Z puts that much effort into making sure the quality is of the highest regard, and if anyone disagrees, than you all are sadly mistaken.

Sorry to Hijack, Continue on with the thread, just my .02 cents.

Very good to know

 

[heavyiron]

Heavy,

OD and Z, are doing the best they can to prove that gear is still of the highest quality, do you really think that the testers will get "special batches" that are higher quality than the rest?

NO...

You know darn well, OD and Z constantly do Mass Spec testing on all oils and raws before going out, minus this little hiccup with the dom while OD was gone, that is now fixed.

I am no longer a rep, but I can testify the amount of testing and quality control both OD and Z put into every line of product they carry.

You also know that Z, And OD are always open to suggestions, ideas, and members input to better their service, and increase the quality to a higher degree.

No other source besides Z puts that much effort into making sure the quality is of the highest regard, and if anyone disagrees, than you all are sadly mistaken.

Sorry to Hijack, Continue on with the thread, just my .02 cents.

I have never once seen a mass spec of Z's products. In fact in my conversations with various reps they didn't even have a place that could do mass spec but it does sound good.

 

[Eiserner Hahn]

OK folks. We are looking for 2 people off each board to help us keep our quality control in check. If you are not using anything now- are clean-make a post and tell us why you should be selected to test the best gear on the web!! PLEASE-we only want people that are willing to do a lab test and post results. Testing protocol is a simple cheap lab test from lab corp or other and we would expect you to test as directed). You will post results in this thread which will be a sticky after selection is made. If selected you will receive 2 10 ml bottles of UncleZ test E or cyp and 2 10ml jugs of prop. Winners will be selected by UncleZ and OD. We will make selection after approx 10 days from this post. You will send your addy as directed. Please-only those familiar with blood testing a simple test panel. This is just one of the many ways UncleZ gear is staying best quality on the web !! Join in and have fun Thanks z. and Team

pick me lol. Im fit never used "gear" before. registered here for info and in the process of getting a cycle together anyways. basically looking to supercharge my fitness

 

[Repo]

You guys can rest assure - Z is not going to have special batches to be tested.

I've tested products for him in the past - "before" - he's released them.

This is a great way to monitor quality control - random followup keeps checks-and-balance ... "in balance."

Awesome for everyone.

 

[Uncle Z.]

well i am not trying for the free gear plus it proves nothing this way i mean do you really think any company is going to send the tester bad gear really how dumb do you think we are really.i am waiting on some z gear with hg two diff brandes ep brand and zline interl brand.and i wont need to have blood work to tell if it is g2g results will tell that. and i will be telling everyone here about my results.

I can assure you that person which will pack it will not know what is it and for who is it also do you think that I have two batches one fully overdosed and one shitty on ok funny but ok

 

[smoke14me]

Well it may not be much help now but I will have lab work done in April toward the end of my current cycle with Z. I will post the results from my bloodwork then. I will be running the Europharm domestic Test E 400MG a week, and Tren E at 600mg week. I have used Z domestic and international several times in the past with great results.

 

[vannesb]

Well it may not be much help now but I will have lab work done in April toward the end of my current cycle with Z. I will post the results from my bloodwork then. I will be running the Europharm domestic Test E 400MG a week, and Tren E at 600mg week. I have used Z domestic and international several times in the past with great results.

Great bro please post!!! This shows a random test at its best!!

 

[rage racing]

I find it funny that nobody really commented on my blood test results. Lets hear from the reps. Would you guys be happy with those results? Not being a wize ass. I really want to know. I realize that the stuff defiantly was not bunk but would you call it underdosed? My testing was about as random as you could get.

 

[heavyiron]

I find it funny that nobody really commented on my blood test results. Lets hear from the reps. Would you guys be happy with those results? Not being a wize ass. I really want to know. I realize that the stuff defiantly was not bunk but would you call it underdosed? My testing was about as random as you could get.

Your results were in the ballpark but a bit low. I commented on it in the following thread and elaborated in following posts.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/2717907-post242.html

 

[rage racing]

Would you be happy heavy? Be honest. Always saw you as a straight shooter and I value your opinion.

 

[ordawg1]

I agree that they were ballpark.Would really lhave liked to see them 7 or 8 days out.Last time I did mine I came in at 7 days and was 675 with 200 mgs Watson RX.But -other varibles. -Thanks-OD

 

[Krys]

I'm def down to run a cycle and post a log and blood results. I heard nothing but good about Z gear, so I want in on this iv'e been working out for 10 years last 4 seriously!! My receptors are clean i haven't ran a cycle in about 1 year, so i'm ready to gain some weight here looking forward to this one. thanks for the chance uncle Z

 

[cabowabo]

i would like to help if possible, I can have lab work done for free so I could prove I'm clean as well.

 

[heavyiron]

Would you be happy heavy? Be honest. Always saw you as a straight shooter and I value your opinion.

The way you administered is a caveat that makes judging this harder. We have clear science that demonstrates ranges of values at exactly 7 days out after many weeks of administration of specific doses. If you had followed the protocol in the study it would be easy to give you a solid answer. Because you did not it's my opinion the results were a bit low but ballpark. I personally would increase the ml by 20-30% to get the desired effect. Do I think a 20-30% loss would make me happy? No, I would not be happy. However these percentages are just crude estimates. If you want a solid answer I can instruct you on how to repeat the testing in a way that the results would be more meaningful.

 

[rage racing]

Not sure what you guys mean by testing 7 days out? My injections are twice a week (approx 3.5days apart). I was on my cycle for about 6 weeks. I pinned 48hrs before giving blood. How does that affect the results? Maybe a link to explain this more. Are you saying that because the blood was drawn only 2 days after pinning the results are somewhat inaccurate?

 

[vannesb]

Not sure what you guys mean by testing 7 days out? My injections are twice a week (approx 3.5days apart). I was on my cycle for about 6 weeks. I pinned 48hrs before giving blood. How does that affect the results? Maybe a link to explain this more. Are you saying that because the blood was drawn only 2 days after pinning the results are somewhat inaccurate?

sent you a pm

 

[heavyiron]

Not sure what you guys mean by testing 7 days out? My injections are twice a week (approx 3.5days apart). I was on my cycle for about 6 weeks. I pinned 48hrs before giving blood. How does that affect the results? Maybe a link to explain this more. Are you saying that because the blood was drawn only 2 days after pinning the results are somewhat inaccurate?

We don't have a good comparison of what you did from a scientific standpoint. In other words, we need to duplicate proven pharmacokinetics that were measured in a controlled environment at specific intervals. If you are still on you may simply pin 300mg C or E and get labs in exactly 7 days OR you may pin 600mg C or E and get labs in exactly 7 days. It is critical that you follow these instructions exactly.

Here is some data for your review;

Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men

Pharmacokinetics of Testosterone cypionate Injection

Figure. Pharmacokinetics of 200mg Testosterone cypionate injection. Source: Comparison of Testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone in serum after injection of Testosterone enanthate or Testosterone cypionate. Schulte-Beerbuhl M, Nieschlag E. Fertility and Sterility 33 (1980) 201-3.

 

[rage racing]

So your sayin pin once a week instead of twice a week (same weekly dose) and then test 7 days after pin? Wouldnt getting tested 48hrs after I pinned show higher levels or am I reading the graph wrong. Please excuse my ignorance with regards to this. I thought pinning twice a week was to keep blood levels stable. After 6 weeks wouldnt my test level stabilized enough where the time of the blood draw would be insignificant.

 

[BFHammer]

I'd be up for the gear and testing. I'm on TRT at 200/EOW and just started formeron and have cjc and ghrp2 otw. I could hold off on starting that though.