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For those who are natural, what's your reason to choose being natural?
Legality?
Price?
Availability?
Morals?
Legality?
Price?
Availability?
Morals?
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Reason for being "natural"?
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working on the post count so I can start up a pm conversation and get unnatural with it after about ten thousand questions
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money is no issue at all for me
Number 1 reason: health , physical and mental
Number 2: better results in the long run
Number 3: the challenge and the satisfaction
number 4: i am not competing against anybody.
number 5 : it is the real thing no cheating no BS
number 6 : i don't think i need it
number 7: too lazy to keep following up with blood tests and to worry...bodybuilding for me is a stress reliever not a stress inducing activity,
number 8: the juicers that i know around me could not convince me yet since i am not really impressed by them (ask if they are
number 9: i don't like the little side effects such as puffy face and mood swings etc,,,
Number 1 reason: health , physical and mental
Number 2: better results in the long run
Number 3: the challenge and the satisfaction
number 4: i am not competing against anybody.
number 5 : it is the real thing no cheating no BS
number 6 : i don't think i need it
number 7: too lazy to keep following up with blood tests and to worry...bodybuilding for me is a stress reliever not a stress inducing activity,
number 8: the juicers that i know around me could not convince me yet since i am not really impressed by them (ask if they are
number 9: i don't like the little side effects such as puffy face and mood swings etc,,,
money is no issue at all for me
Number 1 reason: health , physical and mental
Number 2: better results in the long run
Number 3: the challenge and the satisfaction
number 4: i am not competing against anybody.
number 5 : it is the real thing no cheating no BS
number 6 : i don't think i need it
number 7: too lazy to keep following up with blood tests and to worry...bodybuilding for me is a stress reliever not a stress inducing activity,
number 8: the juicers that i know around me could not convince me yet since i am not really impressed by them (ask if they are
number 9: i don't like the little side effects such as puffy face and mood swings etc,,,
This x 10.
I'll add another one:
You never really lose your gains....It's always easy to get back into shape even after long breaks.
You never really lose your gains....It's always easy to get back into shape even after long breaks.
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Before I went to the dark side, my biggest issue was morality. I had a bunch of younger family members look up to me and their friends as well. They always asked me, "how do I get big muscles". I always told them diet and training go hand in hand with consistency being key. When I started debating on juicing what really got me down was the kids, I thought to myself, what would they think of me since they look up to me and I set a certain example for them. Ultimately, I decided to start using, I keep my usage private and only my best friend/training partner knows of my actual use. I think later on as the kids grow to be men, I will guide them to research and educate themselves on the use of AAS and let them make their own decision.
i have nothing against steroids but i'm still seeing gains in the gym so i dont see the need for them yet. also the place i work does drug testing , and reports findings to the coast guard [which could affect my license]
1. I can't even take vitamins on a proper schedule.
2. My motivation (as this is just a hobby of mine) and availability tends to come and go. I would start a cycle and get busy at work or something and not be able to work out as much as I should and waste it.
3. I have never been consistent enough to hit my natural limit and don't need roids to get there, just need to not take long breaks every summer.
But one day, gears.
2. My motivation (as this is just a hobby of mine) and availability tends to come and go. I would start a cycle and get busy at work or something and not be able to work out as much as I should and waste it.
3. I have never been consistent enough to hit my natural limit and don't need roids to get there, just need to not take long breaks every summer.
But one day, gears.
juicers can never rebuild their muscles fast without the juice.
Juice = dependency
natural = true muscle
the only reason to go for AAS is if you turn pro and make your living out of bodybuilding.
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1. I look better than 99% of the roided guys I see.
2. I see no reason to if you're not trying to be a pro body builder/lifter/competitor. Why? So you can be the strongest, best looking buy in your group of friends?
3. I'm not messing with ANYTHING that can potentially mess with or interrupt anything having to do with my sex life.
2. I see no reason to if you're not trying to be a pro body builder/lifter/competitor. Why? So you can be the strongest, best looking buy in your group of friends?
3. I'm not messing with ANYTHING that can potentially mess with or interrupt anything having to do with my sex life.
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if i were to of been natural...it would of been to see what i can turn myself in to. what kind of machine i can make myself into without help.
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Now that I'm >< to 50 years old there's no more worries on legality, I guess, as I could get a prescription from my family doctor?
Knowledge has always held me back and the fact that I'm built like a Chihuahua -- why put a VTEC engine in a Yugo frame?
Still, and again, since I'm nearing that half century mark, it would be interesting to see if adding AAS to the equation would give me an energy boost, etc.
Guess it comes down to just not having the time or interest to fully educate myself on the process, get a doctor on board, and pursue a non-natural route.
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Now that I'm >< to 50 years old there's no more worries on legality, I guess, as I could get a prescription from my family doctor?
Knowledge has always held me back and the fact that I'm built like a Chihuahua -- why put a VTEC engine in a Yugo frame?
Still, and again, since I'm nearing that half century mark, it would be interesting to see if adding AAS to the equation would give me an energy boost, etc.
Guess it comes down to just not having the time or interest to fully educate myself on the process, get a doctor on board, and pursue a non-natural route.
Superhuman Radio with Carl Lenore has touched on the topic of trt numerous times, you should check out the podcasts. The benefits of trt from what I understand are great! Women go through menopause and Men go through andropause, only difference is that women get treated and men don't.... Get informed CJ! You could be the like captain America lol. But in all seriousness, if I were up there in age, I would get on trt, not even for the purpose of building muscle but for the other health benefits of trt.
My friends, if you're natural and look good then by all means, stay natural. If you're on the verge of going the aas route, you're 25+ years old, and you've got all your facts straight, then you'll be fine; otherwise, just stay natty and have the benefit of being a natty when people ask if you're on steroids.
Decent genetics + no aas + training + eating well = great physique.
Decent genetics + aas + training + eating well = great physique
Genetics of pork + aas + no training + eating lard =
Decent genetics + no aas + training + eating well = great physique.
Decent genetics + aas + training + eating well = great physique
Genetics of pork + aas + no training + eating lard =
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I have a buddy like this. I advise him not to take PHs (he wanted to) But he can't even take a vitamin or creatine on a steady schedule.
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Also, no offense to anyone here--and I mean this.
To all the people that are natural and have achieved good physiques then good for you. I trained for a great many years naturally (not even taking creatine, or protein supplements just eating food and training).
I see many people on this forum, and other forums, that use AAS that don't have very impressive physiques. I am just doing my first cycle of non-PH and I don't even consider MYSELF to have gotten that great of results (next time I run I will use significantly hire dosages and see what happens). That being said, nothing beats diet and hard training.
If you use AAS good for you, if you don't good for you. My point is simply that you can look good by any standard without them. But, you can be bigger and better with the use of AAS if you train and eat properly.
To all the people that are natural and have achieved good physiques then good for you. I trained for a great many years naturally (not even taking creatine, or protein supplements just eating food and training).
I see many people on this forum, and other forums, that use AAS that don't have very impressive physiques. I am just doing my first cycle of non-PH and I don't even consider MYSELF to have gotten that great of results (next time I run I will use significantly hire dosages and see what happens). That being said, nothing beats diet and hard training.
If you use AAS good for you, if you don't good for you. My point is simply that you can look good by any standard without them. But, you can be bigger and better with the use of AAS if you train and eat properly.
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Good advice.
And Carl Lenore gave me his testosterone pitch directly. IronMagLabs spokesman Aaron Singerman and Lenore had a show called "Off Topic" a while back. I appeared at the very tail end of the one show.
Off Topic Radio (06-09-10): IFBB Pro Guy Cisternino & RXMUSCLE.COM forum member Curt James - RX Muscle Mag
IFBB Pro Guy Cisternino was the headliner.
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I see so much wrong with this statement.
I feel like a million bucks just running test cyp. Overall happiness and quality of life improved. Let's face it, watching yourself transform before your eyes every week just keeps the train chugging along.
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Cruising on 250mg Test Cyp/week.
most of it is in your head you just forgot how it is to be natural...you get the same rush and the same feeling of transformation even when you are natural... all you need is focus and motivation , at my age i still see improvements within a week of hard training.
I am not even going to comment on yet again another great thread about being a lame joe smoe lmao.
This.
But seriously.
Who wants to be dependent on anything external for happiness?
To achieve your goals?
Let me be the first to say this, when I was a Kid I started reading Muscle and fitness magazines because I couldn't believe real people could look like super-humans.
I wanted to be like the Incredible Hulk when I was a child.
Then I grew up and realized that in order to be that way, I'd have to take the steroids, ph's, etc etc....
It's just too much for me.
At the risk of sounding homo, I'm very in touch with my body.
I'm a sensitive person, and I just couldn't deal with the fear of fucking up injections, shrinking my testicles, etc etc.
I would feel CHAINED to the drugs and I would be so anal, because it's expensive and you really have to do it right from start to finish.
I enjoy being a care-free person as much as possible.
That's just the personal side.
The other side is as mentioned above.
If you're natural 100%, you always know where you're at. You will always know how much further you can go.
You will always know that you are at your best, or thereabouts.
Know what I mean? no Post-cycle non-sense to deal with.
From my recreational drug use, i know that I hate the roller coaster of getting high and then crashing down.
Fuck that man.
All natty.
^^^^^ agree ..once you depend on steroids you are going to face "crashing down" then in your head you will always think that you cannot get back without steroids. You might gain muscles but you will kill your spirit.
if you are natural then there is no roller coaster effect, no crashing down and you are always improving with time..and when you get down (if you had to stop training) then it is not dramatic and depressive..and you quickly can get back...in short you are always improving and in fact unlike what most would think...when you are natural you can never say you reached your peak, ..as you mature you learn more about your body and your training becomes more efficient and you improve...at my age now (50) my goal is to get back to my best shape ever (which was by the way at 40 !), is it realistic??? hell YES!
if you are natural then there is no roller coaster effect, no crashing down and you are always improving with time..and when you get down (if you had to stop training) then it is not dramatic and depressive..and you quickly can get back...in short you are always improving and in fact unlike what most would think...when you are natural you can never say you reached your peak, ..as you mature you learn more about your body and your training becomes more efficient and you improve...at my age now (50) my goal is to get back to my best shape ever (which was by the way at 40 !), is it realistic??? hell YES!
I'm 35, 36 in July. I'm on a perpetual cut right now. I was up to right at 270 a year ago, with a six pack, natural. I can tell my joints/body weren't made to carry that weight. I just feel better overall that I've come down Currently at 240 and not stopping. I'm tired of "being big-ger" ... Hell i never really wanted to be that big but realized that I was. You look at an old pic and you're like dang, I was big(slightly fat in comparison to me now) I couldn't deny it. Now I'm trying to cut...naturally, perhaps do another show. Talk about a challenge. We all aren't going for the same goals. I mean, it's not just about getting bigger for alot of us, natural or assisted. I take a small small small percentage of offense to statements that assume every guy is trying to get bigger.
And hell now, I get so many fuckers asking and swearing I've taken something that it's more of a reason not to! I'm getting ready to get a tank top made that says 100% Natural or some shit on it, with a logo I had done up just to silence the minds of those wondering. When i'm in the gym, all I talk about is eating, what I'm gonna eat when i get home...people think I'm joking when I tell them what I eat or how much, and that as far as I'm concerned it's 90% of the equation for someone who is experienced at lifting. They think I'm joking, but meanwhile think I'm "using"...cause i can't be serious. I'm like dude I've been lifting since 7th grade. " I bet you workout everyday don't you.." No... ETC...shit gets old. The meathead assumptions, etc. I tell people look, with what I know(not that I know everything) but if I were on something, oh you wouldn't have to ask bro! I don't come to the gym to sit on a ball or do abs. I'd be blowing some shit out in the rack injuring myself or a bystander I know it. I would love to know how it feels, but hell I'd love to know how heroine feels too!
And hell now, I get so many fuckers asking and swearing I've taken something that it's more of a reason not to! I'm getting ready to get a tank top made that says 100% Natural or some shit on it, with a logo I had done up just to silence the minds of those wondering. When i'm in the gym, all I talk about is eating, what I'm gonna eat when i get home...people think I'm joking when I tell them what I eat or how much, and that as far as I'm concerned it's 90% of the equation for someone who is experienced at lifting. They think I'm joking, but meanwhile think I'm "using"...cause i can't be serious. I'm like dude I've been lifting since 7th grade. " I bet you workout everyday don't you.." No... ETC...shit gets old. The meathead assumptions, etc. I tell people look, with what I know(not that I know everything) but if I were on something, oh you wouldn't have to ask bro! I don't come to the gym to sit on a ball or do abs. I'd be blowing some shit out in the rack injuring myself or a bystander I know it. I would love to know how it feels, but hell I'd love to know how heroine feels too!
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i just started going to the gym so i could stay off smokes and weed
having smoked since i was maybe 13-14 (cigs) ive never felt better,
gym 90 mins a day, 45 swimming laps, 3 hours walking (sprints every 5 mins)
i lost weight, gained really good muscle compared to before i started (note i said BEFORE i started, i still aint nothing!)
can put my wife through the headboard when required (not fast enough out the window!)
dont see any need yet, although i do take caffeine tablets cause i loved those sports drinks and the pills without the sugar i like, and they open up the airways and help me cough up a lifetime of smoking deposits
having smoked since i was maybe 13-14 (cigs) ive never felt better,
gym 90 mins a day, 45 swimming laps, 3 hours walking (sprints every 5 mins)
i lost weight, gained really good muscle compared to before i started (note i said BEFORE i started, i still aint nothing!)
can put my wife through the headboard when required (not fast enough out the window!)
dont see any need yet, although i do take caffeine tablets cause i loved those sports drinks and the pills without the sugar i like, and they open up the airways and help me cough up a lifetime of smoking deposits
I'm natural because I'm not ready for gear yet.
I don't know if I will ever be ready, but I know I'm not ready now.
If and when I am ready, my biggest reason for not doing gear would be the sides. The whole idea of needing PCT kills most thoughts of any kind of cycle. Perhaps if there was something mild enough to not need PCT, I might consider it, but even H-Drol, which is probably the mildest PH, needs PCT. And getting the gear is easy, it's getting the Nolva or Clomid or whatever else is needed for PCT that's a pain.
The above said, I'm almost 46, and I am seriously considering going to get my test levels checked. However if my test is low, deciding to go on TRT or getting test 'booster shots' or whatever the terminology is, would depend on the cost.
I don't know if I will ever be ready, but I know I'm not ready now.
If and when I am ready, my biggest reason for not doing gear would be the sides. The whole idea of needing PCT kills most thoughts of any kind of cycle. Perhaps if there was something mild enough to not need PCT, I might consider it, but even H-Drol, which is probably the mildest PH, needs PCT. And getting the gear is easy, it's getting the Nolva or Clomid or whatever else is needed for PCT that's a pain.
The above said, I'm almost 46, and I am seriously considering going to get my test levels checked. However if my test is low, deciding to go on TRT or getting test 'booster shots' or whatever the terminology is, would depend on the cost.
