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hoyle21 said:
So all those people forgot about North Koreas nuclear acquisition, and threats?
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No they haven't. If your point is why hasn't anything been done... look to the president. He is the Commander and Chief, he apparently doesn't feel it needs addressing regardless of the fact other people do. But I could give a shit about what happens in the Korea's. That's part of this countries problem... we police the world and its not our fucking job to do. Let the world do what it fucking wants, keep the allies we have that would actually help us and tell the rest of the world to go fuck off! We have issues we need to deal with here before worrying about the worlds problems...
 
tallguy34 said:
As for my statement of him running the country into the ground... he has made the US into a huge pussy!! Before he stepped into office we were a strong nation and one nobody would fuck with!
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tv is not reality and every single media outlet is ultimately controlled by 5 corporations. every single piece of "information" in the mainstream media outlets is designed to get people to think one way or another and that the innocent US is only out there helping people, when in reality it's more like the exact opposite. it's why foreign media outlets are not broadcasted in the US the only viewpoints you get are the ones they want you to have and that is the US never does anything to anybody and keep consuming.

most american's have no clue what the US has really been doing the past 50 years but the rest of the world does and none of it is good.

US news = propaganda
 
Tall Paul said:
Everything i read on here would suggest Americans hate him

Yet everyone from any other part of the world outside America likes him! Why?
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Because Obama appeases everyone, BUT Americans. They know he is soft and frail. Bush didn't put up with shit and had the iron fist. Barack has been on an apology tour since the day he took office. He represents weakness and mass amounts of frailness. He's on this whole class warfare kick right now that will ultimately come back to bit him in the ass.

Also, Santorum IS focusing on the economy as well as social issues. Of course the economy is going to show signs of improvement, it's election time. That's the way it works every 4 years. What these economy/unemployment #'s don't show you is the amount of people that have just flat out stopped looking for work. Everyone remember this??Obama One Term Proposition: "I Will Be Held Accountable" - YouTube
 
secdrl said:
Also, Santorum IS focusing on the economy as well as social issues. Of course the economy is going to show signs of improvement, it's election time. That's the way it works every 4 years.
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I guess Bush and McCain missed that memo, because the economy wasn't so great last election if I remember correctly.

And, Santorum is all for small government, except for your right to make decisions about your healthcare or who you marry, or if you can watch porn or not.
 
tallguy34 said:
No they haven't. If your point is why hasn't anything been done... look to the president. He is the Commander and Chief, he apparently doesn't feel it needs addressing regardless of the fact other people do. But I could give a shit about what happens in the Korea's. That's part of this countries problem... we police the world and its not our fucking job to do. Let the world do what it fucking wants, keep the allies we have that would actually help us and tell the rest of the world to go fuck off! We have issues we need to deal with here before worrying about the worlds problems...
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N Korean got nukes under W's watch. You said nobody fucked with us before or threatened nukes, but nobody is threatening us with nukes now, unless you think Iran is, if Iran is than N Korea was.

What allies should we protect If S Korea isn't one of them?
 
exphysiologist88 said:
I guess Bush and McCain missed that memo, because the economy wasn't so great last election if I remember correctly.

And, Santorum is all for small government, except for your right to make decisions about your healthcare or who you marry, or if you can watch porn or not.
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Kinda sounds like Barack. You have no choice in your HC plan at all. One size fits all for 350 million people. Santorum is focusing on the contraception issue, not your typical doctors vist. We both know that he is not going to ban porn. I believe that if he were elected, he would uphold our constitutional rights. He may not agree with porn personally, and will be outspoken about it, but it won't get banned.
 
hoyle21 said:
N Korean got nukes under W's watch. You said nobody fucked with us before or threatened nukes, but nobody is threatening us with nukes now, unless you think Iran is, if Iran is than N Korea was.

What allies should we protect If S Korea isn't one of them?
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Sigh! Another one who thinks Iran isn't a threat. :coffee:
 
LAM said:
tv is not reality and every single media outlet is ultimately controlled by 5 corporations. every single piece of "information" in the mainstream media outlets is designed to get people to think one way or another and that the innocent US is only out there helping people, when in reality it's more like the exact opposite. it's why foreign media outlets are not broadcasted in the US the only viewpoints you get are the ones they want you to have and that is the US never does anything to anybody and keep consuming.

most american's have no clue what the US has really been doing the past 50 years but the rest of the world does and none of it is good.

US news = propaganda
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I never said the US was an angelic savior... I know we have done some fucked up shit! But who hasn't?! My statement still stands. We need to get the hell out of every country that doesn't want us their and work on our own shit first...
 
secdrl said:
Kinda sounds like Barack. You have no choice in your HC plan at all. One size fits all for 350 million people. Santorum is focusing on the contraception issue, not your typical doctors vist. We both know that he is not going to ban porn. I believe that if he were elected, he would uphold our constitutional rights. He may not agree with porn personally, and will be outspoken about it, but it won't get banned.
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that's weird, because I have total choice in my healthcare plan. And, today Santorum reaffirmed his pledge to prosecute porn companies under anti-obscenity laws.
 
I'd prefer Paul took office cause he has wants to get the country back on track and put the power back in the hands of the people where it belongs! He is like the Uncle in the Closet... everyone wants him to be around they just don't want to admit it!
 
tallguy34 said:
I never said the US was an angelic savior... I know we have done some fucked up shit! But who hasn't?! My statement still stands. We need to get the hell out of every country that doesn't want us their and work on our own shit first...
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I agree.
 
exphysiologist88 said:
I guess Bush and McCain missed that memo, because the economy wasn't so great last election if I remember correctly.

And, Santorum is all for small government, except for your right to make decisions about your healthcare or who you marry, or if you can watch porn or not.
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McCain got pretty beat up for saying the economic foundation of America was healthy. True. Bush ran a pretty social conservative campaign his first election. McCain may have won if he didn't spend so much time catering to the base of the republican party. I liked McCain in 2000, 2008 McCain was a psycho.
 
tallguy34 said:
I never said the US was an angelic savior... I know we have done some fucked up shit! But who hasn't?! My statement still stands. We need to get the hell out of every country that doesn't want us their and work on our own shit first...
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I agree that we need to stop our attempt at bringing a stable democracy to all these Arab nations. The bottom line is, they don't want. I think we just need to let them kill eachother. It's called natural selection, they'll kill themselves off and save us a whole bunch of heartache in the meantime.

Here's the thing, we do have American interests and investments abroad. We do need to have some show of force and maintain a "decent" presence so our interests/investements aren't disrupted. Of course, this is mainly oil, but we can't have that disrupted.
 
exphysiologist88 said:
that's weird, because I have total choice in my healthcare plan. And, today Santorum reaffirmed his pledge to prosecute porn companies under anti-obscenity laws.
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Stupid people are never going to see the light.
 
hoyle21 said:
They are the same sized great as N Korea. Bush let them get nukes.
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North Korea isn't calling for the immediate destruction of Israel or the United States. Yes, they're unstable, but I think that the bargaining chip favors allied nations in dealing with North Korea. They need food and aide. Iran is much more defiant and religously calls for the elimination of millions of people based on their dangerous theocracy they call Islam.
 
hoyle21 said:
McCain got pretty beat up for saying the economic foundation of America was healthy. True. Bush ran a pretty social conservative campaign his first election. McCain may have won if he didn't spend so much time catering to the base of the republican party. I liked McCain in 2000, 2008 McCain was a psycho.
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That retard Palin, with her fetish for big black men didn't help either.
 
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secdrl said:
North Korea isn't calling for the immediate destruction of Israel or the United States. Yes, they're unstable, but I think that the bargaining chip favors allied nations in dealing with North Korea. They need food and aide. Iran is much more defiant and religously calls for the elimination of millions of people based on their dangerous theocracy they call Islam.
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/27/world/asia/north-korea-tensions/index.html

http://m.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/...tens-physical-response?cat=world&type=article

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,528880,00.html
 
hoyle21 said:
N Korean got nukes under W's watch. You said nobody fucked with us before or threatened nukes, but nobody is threatening us with nukes now, unless you think Iran is, if Iran is than N Korea was.

What allies should we protect If S Korea isn't one of them?
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Dude... N Korea has threatened us several times in the past yr and a half. Obama unleashes the apology statement to them and they back off. N Korea still has Palo Verde power plant in AZ, NORAD, and several other key places target at this moment.

Iran is a major threat also, they have threatened us already! Just not released to the public is all...

We shouldn't be protecting anyone!! Helping allies yes! Protecting? No!

As for the Korea's in general, we already doubt a war for them! Did it change anything? Not really! So why the hell should we get involved again?
 
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