Damn FML... bloodwork after pct

[emitecaps]

lol, too long.

That's probably why. I like 20 week cycles but they shut me down hard. Even 3 months after pct levels are still crap, 280ng/dl for test. Usually have to run a pct around this time and test comes back to 500-600 and stays there months afterwards. Also, getting endo to prescribe HGH is impossible and most insurances won't cover it. The clinics that will prescribe HGH want $1000 for 80-100IUs a month.

 

[Standard Donkey]

LOL please share im on cycle and dont want to go too long..........

in this case, "too long" is a relative term that is solely based on the individual and their ability to recover

 

[Vibrant]

LOL please share im on cycle and dont want to go too long..........

it was an EQ/test cycle with some orals thrown in for good measure

That's probably why. I like 20 week cycles but they shut me down hard. Even 3 months after pct levels are still crap, 280ng/dl for test. Usually have to run a pct around this time and test comes back to 500-600 and stays there months afterwards. Also, getting endo to prescribe HGH is impossible and most insurances won't cover it. The clinics that will prescribe HGH want $1000 for 80-100IUs a month.

yeah, getting an endo to prescribe anything might be hard. after talking with an very experienced guy(you know who you are, thanks bro) I will probably be going to a trt clinic.

yeah the prices are insane for hgh from clinics but I will probably not be buying hgh from them. I just want to be legit and have a legal script for it.

in this case, "too long" is a relative term that is solely based on the individual and their ability to recover

I agree with this^^^

 

[colochine]

I think Ive heard before that plastics are really bad for a mans T levels.

I'm sure the American diet isn't helping either.

Bisphenol A

 

[TJTJ]

Well, fuck my life. I have the test levels of a 90 year old man on his deathbed

this bloodwork was taken two weeks after pct. Before pct I blasted hcg. pct was:

clomid 100/100/75/75/50
nolva 40/20/20/20/20
formerone @ 1 pump


I guess its time to consider trt @ 24.

thoughts?

That really sucks man. You play a professional sport and you went and jacked yourself up. I dont see much of a future if grandpa can kick your ass. I see log after log of you running shit. Dont you ever just give your body 3-4months to recover? Plus With doses of Clomid and Nolva that high should'a set you back on track. And the formeron on top of that, Im super surprised. What could be the odds of all 3 being bunk? Not likely.

I wish you a speedy recovery and hopefully in a few months, if you dont run anything, your body will find homeostasis again.

 

[keith1569]

if your super concerned run another pct again except extend it out 8 weeks..then test again 4 weeks after you finish

 

[Vibrant]

That really sucks man. You play a professional sport and you went and jacked yourself up. I dont see much of a future if grandpa can kick your ass. I see log after log of you running shit. Dont you ever just give your body 3-4months to recover? Plus With doses of Clomid and Nolva that high should'a set you back on track. And the formeron on top of that, Im super surprised. What could be the odds of all 3 being bunk? Not likely.

I wish you a speedy recovery and hopefully in a few months, if you dont run anything, your body will find homeostasis again.

Im not really running things right after each other. Im running osta right now and that really shouldn't have a negative effect on my hpta system. Honestly, I think I tested too soon after pct and experts I've talked to think that as well. My coming up bloods for osta should paint a better picture of where Im at.

As far as jacking myself up, I dont really see what you mean. If my test stays low then I'll get hrt and will be in optimal ranges all the time. In fact I was considering trt anyway.

Oh and grandpa's can come at me, I have no qualms about beating old men down

if your super concerned run another pct again except extend it out 8 weeks..then test again 4 weeks after you finish

Im not super concerned and I hate being on clomid.

 

[TJTJ]

As far as jacking myself up, I dont really see what you mean. If my test stays low then I'll get hrt and will be in optimal ranges all the time. In fact I was considering trt anyway.

I meant it in the sense to be a pro-athlete, most are tested for doping and I wouldnt think they'd allow one to enter is he was on a HRT regiment. I may be wrong. I hope so, for your sake.

I do honestly hope everything works out well for you.

 

[Vibrant]

I meant it in the sense to be a pro-athlete, most are tested for doping and I wouldnt think they'd allow one to enter is he was on a HRT regiment. I may be wrong. I hope so, for your sake.

I do honestly hope everything works out well for you.

thanks bro.

the way the doping system works is if you are officially prescribed something, then you can take anything you are prescribed. athletes are prescribed things from A to Z.

 

[XYZ]

I have another test planned for in about 4-5 weeks.

I dont think I ever had high test to begin with. I was contemplating trt for a while though. the idea of blasting and cruising is appealing to me. And the fact that I would have a script for legal test, ai, and hcg.

You'll be lucky if you get a script for anything other than test, TRUST ME. Good luck though.

 

[SloppyJ]

Dude you need to retest in another month. 2 weeks after PCT isn't a good time to be testing.

 

[Vibrant]

You'll be lucky if you get a script for anything other than test, TRUST ME. Good luck though.

yeah, I know. But if I do go the trt route, I will try. I also have some docs that aren't necessarily friends but sort of acquaintances that ask me to train them sometimes, so that may help.

 

[Eiserner Hahn]

I in the final stages to getting TRT started. My T levels were 136 on the same normal range as posted on vibrants results. Doctor redid the tests to confirm because that's damn low for my age (23). Results came back even lower.


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[TJTJ]

I in the final stages to getting TRT started. My T levels were 136 on the same normal range as posted on vibrants results. Doctor redid the tests to confirm because that's damn low for my age (23). Results came back even lower.


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You might as well have your testes removed, tie a string to them and turn them in to cat toys. Because at this point they're just lies. And get some breast implants because you have gone full on woman.

 

[sofargone561]

fuckin dog balls i hope that dont happen to me any time soon lmao =o...

 

[SteroidalGazelle]

I in the final stages to getting TRT started. My T levels were 136 on the same normal range as posted on vibrants results. Doctor redid the tests to confirm because that's damn low for my age (23). Results came back even lower.


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What was your last cycle and PCT like? How many cycles have you done?

 

[Vibrant]

fuckin dog balls i hope that dont happen to me any time soon lmao =o...

Are you laughing at me???

 

[sofargone561]

lmao maybe a little. until this happens to me then i wont be laughing, i think ill have a few years left b4 this happens tho

 

[Eiserner Hahn]

cycle was only metha-drol and i used clomiphene for PCT. only took 2 weeks worth of the metha-drol b/c i didnt like it. I have blood results from before showing low test but not as low as it is now. its been 3 months after pct was completed that the blood tests where run

 

[sofargone561]

cycle was only metha-drol and i used clomiphene for PCT. only took 2 weeks worth of the metha-drol b/c i didnt like it. I have blood results from before showing low test but not as low as it is now. its been 3 months after pct was completed that the blood tests where run

lol what? idk why this didnt make sense to me

 

[aminoman74]

i blast and cruse as when i used to do pct i still lost almost all my gains.Just think when you shoot test for 10-12 weeks you body will shut its self down .It will take a while before you get back what you should be.im on a blast and cruse for the remainder of my cycle history .I hope to never come off.

 

[JCBourne]

Why don't you just do your own treatment? There's enough information on this forum and people to help you out. Legal wise I'm assuming?

 

[gamma]

Why only wait a month for more bloods , shouldn't you really give it more like 3-6 months?

 

[TJTJ]

Why only wait a month for more bloods , shouldn't you really give it more like 3-6 months?

I agree. I think 3months is the minimum. 6 if things are really jacked up. And to run with another pct..

 

[Vibrant]

Why don't you just do your own treatment? There's enough information on this forum and people to help you out. Legal wise I'm assuming?

I assume that^^^ question is for me?

I have no problem doing my own treatment. If I do go the trt route, I want to have a legal reason for having test in my home.

Why only wait a month for more bloods , shouldn't you really give it more like 3-6 months?

probably, but Im doing bloods for osta rx. I may test again like june-july.

 

[Calves of Steel]

Yea my levels were naturally in the low 300s. Thinking it may have been from a dumb doctor prescribing me propranolol during puberty...