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Optimal Tren Cycle

BlueJayMuscle

BlueJayMuscle

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Stats:
Age: 23
Weight: 194
Height: 6'0"
bf%: 8.35%
Training seriously for 6+ years

AAS History: Sustanon 250 w/ Dbol. Test e w/ Dbol. Test p w/ Dbol.

Supplements:
-1000mg Vitamin C morning and preworkout
-5000 iu Vitamin D morning
-Fish Oil morning
-Multivitamin morning
-BCAA powder pre and during workout
-ON 100% Whey morning, preworkout, postworkout, before bed

Cycle Goals:
RECOMP +Lean mass

Gear:
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate 500mg/wk
Week 3-12 Tren Acetate 75mg ED

During and Post Cycle Therapy:
Week 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Week 3-12 Prami .3mg ED
Week 1-12 HCG 250 iu twice/wk

(I want to add some peptides but not sure what's best. I was looking at TB-4? Not really sure about the deal with GHRP.. Feedback would be awesome)


Suggestions welcome
 
The 8.35% was on a bioelectrical scale on "athletic" mode considering my RHR was 52 bpm.

To be honest by my eyes guessing, I'd say I'm closer to 10%

I'll post a pic later though. Despite the accuracy of body fat percentage, how's the cycle look?

And I want to do recomp because the only fat I carry pretty much is on chest and lower abdomen. And I want that stubborn fat to finally be gone. If I have the wrong mindset, set me straight by all means
 
cycle looks fine, but it lacks a pct... so you will need one of those.


body composition is all about diet.. but i suppose fat distribution definitely has genetic factors..


im so fucking stoked i dont have extra chest fat
 
Oh damn. Forgot about clomid 100/50/50/50 weeks 13-17.

Yeah I'm not so stoked about that chest fat that has been around 10 years now.
 
going for a recomp at 8% bf... lol ok

cycle is ok, why not run prop instead of test e and add some mast or var at the end if wanting to really go hard
 
I just finished a prop cycle and wanted to try out enanthate with tren a.

I'll check out mast or var as a possibility
 
test e is great but some people tend to hold more water on cycle with it than prop, just be ready to bump up the aromasin if needed and mast will help with this also
 
Sounds good
 
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I just added pars tren at 100mg ed to my cycle and it hasn't even been a week and a local bb at the gym said I was looking cut up so I weighed myself to see how much I lost and weight had actually gone up lol
 
If you're pinning that much anyway, go with prop. Run the test a couple weeks longer than the tren. Start the tren at 50mg ED since you've never ran tren before and wait a few weeks to bump it up. Run the prami a couple weeks longer than the tren and add aromasin to PCT.
 
Hm alright. Thanks for the input sloppy
 
If prop how much daily should I be pinning with the tren a?
 
200-700 a week, I tend to look like shit the higher I go but everyone is different. Find your sweet spot some guys keep it low as possible just for good libido and let the other compounds do the work
 
hm so:

Week 1-12 Test Propionate 50mg ED
Week 2-10 Tren Acetate start at 50mg ED possibly go more

During and Post Cycle Therapy:
Week 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Week 3-12 Prami .3mg ED
Week 1-12 HCG 250 iu twice/wk
Week 13-17 Clomid 100/50/50/50

g2g?
 
Looks good, crank that tren up if you can. I'm at 100 a day and only sides I'm getting is awesome dreams and night sweats but I always sweat at night so its normal to me.
 
Don't start clomid until week 15. Test E takes 2 weeks to clear out of your system.
 
I would add either mast prop, or eq, or drol to the test and tren.... this will help that little extra bit to retain lean mass while leaning out(you should actually gain a reasonable amount of lean mass since )don't have much fat to drop..drol would prob give you most amount of lean mass gain, mast would make you the hardest... eq would be right somewhere in between.... that's just what I would do....
 
add aromasin in on your PCT. 25/25/12.5/12.5
 
Your di*k might not work at those doses.

Try and keep the test / tren ratio at 2:1 for optimal function.

Aromaisn for the entire cycle and PCT.

500ius HCG EW and 1000ius eod for the first week of pct.
 
XYZ said:
Your di*k might not work at those doses.

Try and keep the test / tren ratio at 2:1 for optimal function.
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This is just not correct, for most people all they need is a hrt test dose a week and can run other compounds sky high. Not everyone is the same but to make a general statement like that is just simply false
 
BlueJayMuscle said:
Stats:
Age: 23
Weight: 194
Height: 6'0"
bf%: 8.35%
Training seriously for 6+ years

AAS History: Sustanon 250 w/ Dbol. Test e w/ Dbol. Test p w/ Dbol.

Supplements:
-1000mg Vitamin C morning and preworkout
-5000 iu Vitamin D morning
-Fish Oil morning
-Multivitamin morning
-BCAA powder pre and during workout
-ON 100% Whey morning, preworkout, postworkout, before bed

Cycle Goals:
RECOMP +Lean mass

Gear:
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate 500mg/wk
Week 3-12 Tren Acetate 75mg ED

During and Post Cycle Therapy:
Week 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Week 3-12 Prami .3mg ED
Week 1-12 HCG 250 iu twice/wk

(I want to add some peptides but not sure what's best. I was looking at TB-4? Not really sure about the deal with GHRP.. Feedback would be awesome)


Suggestions welcome
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I'd up the test personally. I always like to keep the test dose 2x that of the tren. That's a pretty stout dose of tren for a first time. The extra test seems to cut down on the sides...at least for me.


I would also run the tren a little longer than the test because of the difference in ester lengths there, plus it's nice to dry out a bit when recomping before you hit pct.

Either way tren is THE best recomp drug out there that I have ever used.
 
juiceball44 said:
Looks good, crank that tren up if you can. I'm at 100 a day and only sides I'm getting is awesome dreams and night sweats but I always sweat at night so its normal to me.
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That's pretty poor advise there^

A LOT of guys can't even handle tren ace at all and end up dumping it half way through their run.

It's his first time using it and he's already going to be using 525mgs ew...which is more than enough. I never needed more than 375mgs or so the first few times I ran it which is about the normal starting point for tren. Just my opinion...
 
Didn't read it was his first time, I agree with you most should start off around 50mg ed than go up IF they can, I know of some big boys running 150-250mg ed. and to be honest I don't think most ugl tren is a legit 100mg/ml
 
juiceball44 said:
Didn't read it was his first time, I agree with you most should start off around 50mg ed than go up IF they can, I know of some big boys running 150-250mg ed. and to be honest I don't think most ugl tren is a legit 100mg/ml
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No it's REALLY hard to get ace to hold at anything over 80mgs/ml...at least just using BA and BB seems to fuck with it. It's so easy to make the shit IDK why anyone would pay out the ass for the ugl shit but that's me..
 
But yeah, I know guys that run well over 1grm- 1.5 a week or more!! Not me sir....FUCK NO!! I have enough of a hard time not smashing ramdoms in rush hour traffic on 500mgs ew...Couldn't imagine 2-3x that!
 
BlueJayMuscle said:
Stats:
Age: 23
Weight: 194
Height: 6'0"
bf%: 8.35%
Training seriously for 6+ years

AAS History: Sustanon 250 w/ Dbol. Test e w/ Dbol. Test p w/ Dbol.

Supplements:
-1000mg Vitamin C morning and preworkout
-5000 iu Vitamin D morning
-Fish Oil morning
-Multivitamin morning
-BCAA powder pre and during workout
-ON 100% Whey morning, preworkout, postworkout, before bed

Cycle Goals:
RECOMP +Lean mass

Gear:
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate 500mg/wk
Week 3-12 Tren Acetate 75mg ED

During and Post Cycle Therapy:
Week 1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Week 3-12 Prami .3mg ED
Week 1-12 HCG 250 iu twice/wk

(I want to add some peptides but not sure what's best. I was looking at TB-4? Not really sure about the deal with GHRP.. Feedback would be awesome)


Suggestions welcome
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Test & ace look alright but I sure would choose cabergoline instead of prami.
And as was mentioned what about you'r PCT?
Get yourself some clomid and while ON cycle perhaps arimadex may be a better choice and use your aromasin with clomid for you'r PCT.
Just my 2 cents
If you go with adex perhaps .5 mgs EOD would do you well and as for the caber .5 2-3 x per wk would suffice.
I use it 2x wkly and do well with that.
You may find you will want to increase you'r HCG during cycle but like you I aleways start @ 250iu's 2x wkly and you can adjust accordingly if need be.
 
Oppps missed something.

IF you decide to go with aromasin ON cycle it should be taken daily because unlike arimadex it has a shorter half life.
Thats one reason I prefer it for PCT and the other being is that it's suicidal to estrogen and helps stop the chance of estro re-bound while on PCT.
 
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