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Supreme Court upholds Obama health care law

Well this wont happen until 2014 but by then Romney will be in office and the Republicans will have a republican senate finaly. So All the Republicans just relax watch and we will get what we want. If even a liberal democrat cant see all the lies Barry has said in 3,1/2 yrs then there mind set is completely gone because this president has made more promises and lied then any other. Its actualy sad. . I'm going to sit back and just watch him lose.
 
obamacare is a racist tax/madate/tax/tax/madate/tax/tax/tax/tax/madate/tax/tax/tax/tax/tax/tax (21 separate taxes actually)
 
From The Heritage Lectures 218: Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans, 1989:

?There is an implicit contract between households in society, based on the notion that health insurance is not like other forms of insurance protection. If a young man wrecks his Porsche and does not have the foresight to obtain insurance, we may commiserate but society feels no obligation to repair his car. Healthcare is different. If a man is struck down by a heart attack in the street, Americans will care for him whether or not he has insurance. If we find that he has spent his money on other things rather than insurance, we may be angry but we will not deny him services ? even if that means more prudent citizens end up paying the tab ? A mandate on individuals recognizes this implicit contract.?

I don't know a lot about Obamacare but my question is - for those who can't afford health insurance isn't giving them a subsidy to buy private health insurance going to inflate the cost of private insurance?

Here's an alternative... If you opt out of insurance you then agree to a tattoo that tells EMTs and emergency rooms to ignore you and deny all care to you.

This reminds me of something else I've been thinking about. Why do we have insurance for simple doctor visits, preventative care,etc? I mean we don't buy car insurance that covers oil changes, tires, hub assemblies, ignition control modules,etc because having a 'middle man' just inflates the costs; they would just be taking a cut on something you're likely to need anyway. How is this different from healthcare that most people need over the course of a year? Sure, some young guys may not go to the doctor for years but women, children, elderly are most likely going a few times a year for some kind of care. It seems like something with a high deductible but with a high benefit limit that would cover more serious inpatient care makes more sense if you're going to mandate health insurance. I mean otherwise it kind of seems like a racket for insurance companies.
 
If you oppose Obamacare, you're a racist.
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I mean we don't buy car insurance that covers oil changes, tires, hub assemblies, ignition control modules,etc because having a 'middle man' just inflates the costs; they would just be taking a cut on something you're likely to need anyway. How is this different from healthcare that most people need over the course of a year? Sure, some young guys may not go to the doctor for years but women, children, elderly are most likely going a few times a year for some kind of care. It seems like something with a high deductible but with a high benefit limit that would cover more serious inpatient care makes more sense if you're going to mandate health insurance. I mean otherwise it kind of seems like a racket for insurance companies.

new car warranty's cover most of those things that you mentioned some more than others especially when you enter the luxury car market. also the human body can not be repaired to "like new" performance after years of neglect, bad diet, etc.
 
I don't know a lot about Obamacare but my question is - for those who can't afford health insurance isn't giving them a subsidy to buy private health insurance going to inflate the cost of private insurance?



This reminds me of something else I've been thinking about. Why do we have insurance for simple doctor visits, preventative care,etc? I mean we don't buy car insurance that covers oil changes, tires, hub assemblies, ignition control modules,etc because having a 'middle man' just inflates the costs; they would just be taking a cut on something you're likely to need anyway. How is this different from healthcare that most people need over the course of a year? Sure, some young guys may not go to the doctor for years but women, children, elderly are most likely going a few times a year for some kind of care. It seems like something with a high deductible but with a high benefit limit that would cover more serious inpatient care makes more sense if you're going to mandate health insurance. I mean otherwise it kind of seems like a racket for insurance companies.

Dude, the whole system is a freaking racket already, this law doesn't change that fact at all and nothing will as long as there is lobbying.
 
If you oppose Obamacare, you're a racist.
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Dude, drop the act, we all know that calling people racist because they are against Obama is in majority of cases just bullshit to divert. You just sound stupid running around here yelling out phrases that nobody on here uses in some sort of attempt to land the occasional punch on some misinformed idiot.
 
If you oppose Obamacare, you're a racist.
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Just cause you want a mormon in office does not mean he will be anymore polite than O'Bama or be able to handle the press any better. All this division is the problem the country is facing, lobbyists will make whoever is president about the same to some extent, that should be where you place your anger. I want them gone more than anyone else. O'Bama with no puppet strings is not going to be any worse than Romney with puppet strings like he has now.
 
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Dude, drop the act, we all know that calling people racist because they are against Obama is in majority of cases just bullshit to divert. You just sound stupid running around here yelling out phrases that nobody on here uses in some sort of attempt to land the occasional punch on some misinformed idiot.

i don't hate black people in general, but i will say that one of the reasons i don't like obama is because he's black...what i mean by that is playing the race card ...the more people say it's about race, the more i wanna call him racial names...if they left the race card out, it wouldn't be an issue...but that's no more racist than 99% of black people voting for him because he's black...same as me not voting for him or me voting for a white guy
 
i don't hate black people in general, but i will say that one of the reasons i don't like obama is because he's black...

you do realize that you just admitted to being a rasict/bigot because of a person's genetic profile...
 
you do realize that you just admitted to being a rasict/bigot because of a person's genetic profile...

you do realize that the aliens put the asians on earth for engineering and math, indian for medicine, negros for slaves, and caucasians are the holders of the holy grail...
 
Dude, drop the act, we all know that calling people racist because they are against Obama is in majority of cases just bullshit to divert. You just sound stupid running around here yelling out phrases that nobody on here uses in some sort of attempt to land the occasional punch on some misinformed idiot.

Gissurjon (attorney at law) You're not even smart enough to understand the hypocrisy I was pointing out. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the liberal media and their pro-Barry agenda. This president and the members of his party have used the race card and blame Bush card relentlessly.
 
Just cause you want a mormon in office does not mean he will be anymore polite than O'Bama or be able to handle the press any better. All this division is the problem the country is facing, lobbyists will make whoever is president about the same to some extent, that should be where you place your anger. I want them gone more than anyone else. O'Bama with no puppet strings is not going to be any worse than Romney with puppet strings like he has now.

Is this your personal spin on my political views? This has absolutely nothing to do with having a mormon in office. I couldn't care less if Romney was an atheist as long as he gets this country back on track. I want a president who first and foremost, puts national security as a main priority; not a president who goes on a worldwide apology tour and tells our adversaries that he'll have "more flexibility" after the election.

I want a president who doesn't dictate, but someone who understands federalism and the constitution. I want a president who will reinstate our values and the greatness that this country stands for.

Just our of curiousity, are you a muslim? You're awfully supportive of the president. Keep drinkin' that kool-aid, homie.
 
i don't hate black people in general, but i will say that one of the reasons i don't like obama is because he's black...what i mean by that is playing the race card ...the more people say it's about race, the more i wanna call him racial names...if they left the race card out, it wouldn't be an issue...but that's no more racist than 99% of black people voting for him because he's black...same as me not voting for him or me voting for a white guy

This is how 99% of the black community view Obama. It really highlights that they don't have a clue, they're the most racist bunch among us. Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!! - YouTube

This is one is really sad...Obama Supporters are Idiots! - YouTube
 
I think the health care plan is needed. but alot of other laws need to change for it to work and half the peopel runnign the us let go.. like the war on drugs and mocho me US Wars pissing away billions.

Needing to choose what 2 of 4 fingers I will keep from not having the money for them to be ptu back on form an accident is just wrong any place you live. Im sorry guys but in this case the USA is far behind with the healthcare.

Its too bad the Bush and Bush JR. had to have time in the house to make things worse and now Obama has to deal with the mess.
 
I think the health care plan is needed. but alot of other laws need to change for it to work and half the peopel runnign the us let go.. like the war on drugs and mocho me US Wars pissing away billions.

Needing to choose what 2 of 4 fingers I will keep from not having the money for them to be ptu back on form an accident is just wrong any place you live. Im sorry guys but in this case the USA is far behind with the healthcare.

Its too bad the Bush and Bush JR. had to have time in the house to make things worse and now Obama has to deal with the mess.

Typical response. Not the least bit surprising.
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Typical response. Not the least bit surprising.
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Obama is just another tool..... Fix the problem? more people need to stand up and stop wandering like catttle. you do something in europe and the people riot that shit! the gov is scared of the people. but in the USA the people are scared of the Gov. THATS the issue
if you ask me.
But I do blame bush's and if bush was still in power or it was some other shamuck I would still say the same thing about him.
 
Obama is just another tool..... Fix the problem? more people need to stand up and stop wandering like catttle. you do something in europe and the people riot that shit! the gov is scared of the people. but in the USA the people are scared of the Gov. THATS the issue
if you ask me.
But I do blame bush's and if bush was still in power or it was some other shamuck I would still say the same thing about him.


Really?! I think you have it backwards. I honestly don't think Americans are scared of our govt. I think for the most part, we have a subtle respect for the rule of law and we're more tolerant than the European populous.

The governments "over there" are oppresive to their people and use political force, military force and much more to suppress their citizens. (North Korea, China, Russia, etc.)

I agree that more Americans need to stand up against the government and put their power into check. I honestly believe that the revolts you see overseas wil be coming to a town near you in the short future. For the most part, Americans are fed up, tired and worn out from the extreme governmental overreach. It's only a matter of time...
 
how about this novel idea, govt is there to preserve our liberty, not take it away? it's disgusting what this county has turned into.
 
The ER isn't the only time people see a doctor. We already pay for those visits anyway.

Now, a someone in the middle class, I get to have even more of my income taken from me and given to others.

I hope Obama dies horribly.

The best part is Reagan signed that into law.


Free Healthcare for Illegals :clapping:


This is a sad day for America. There is now NO limit to the power of the federal government. Effectively, this is the end of capitalism and federalism as we know it.

If you don't sign up for medicare part d you have to pay a penalty

That was passed just a few years ago by Republicans


Most Medicare beneficiaries must affirmatively enroll in a Part D plan to participate. Currently, the enrollment period will last from October 15 to December 7.[2] Medicare beneficiaries who were eligible but did not enroll during the enrollment period must pay a late-enrollment penalty (LEP) to receive Part D benefits. This penalty is equal to 1% the national average premium times the number of full calender months that they were eligible but not enrolled in Part D. The penalty raises the premium of Part D for beneficiaries, when and if they should elect coverage.[4]

https://questions.medicare.gov/
 
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The house voted today to repeal obamacare and won 244-185. BUT, it means notta, because it will die in the democratic controlled senate. checks and balances.
 
As you folks know, I do not like Obama and a lot of his supporters are retards, as shown above.

But these retards are on both of the duopolistic camps: you have the Palin fans, and the Glenn Beck zombie followers too.

Retards: never to few of them running around - and they have kids (unfortunately).

As for health care (ACA) it's still a bit too complex for me to spend hours going over it, but something needed to be done

Something should have been done decades ago.

Tens of millions of working people without health care and a high percentage of banktuptcies b/c of health care costs.

The US is the only industrial nation in the world that has employer-employee health insurance pool plans. It's not effective. And costs have been rising dramatically.

What is the GOP's alternative? To nothing. Absolutely nothing.

And Romney care is almost identical to Obama care.
 
The house voted today to repeal obamacare and won 244-185. BUT, it means notta, because it will die in the democratic controlled senate. checks and balances.

Perhaps republicans should get on with doing their jobs. This is the 33rd time they've done this. They know it's for nothing. Shows how insane they really are. Keep doing the same thing expecting a different result. Little children do that, except little children eventually learn.

Have you learned anything, yet?
 
Perhaps republicans should get on with doing their jobs. This is the 33rd time they've done this. They know it's for nothing. Shows how insane they really are. Keep doing the same thing expecting a different result. Little children do that, except little children eventually learn.

Have you learned anything, yet?


anyone that thinks the Republicans dont have a solution for health care wake up you clearly havent been listening and 2nd this health care isnt going anywhere but in the garbage.Sure you can say its so called passed now but in reality it doesnt kick in for years and by then barry will be out of office soon.
 
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