The republicans don't have shit for anything, much less brains.
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The republicans don't have shit for anything, much less brains.
they always have their own plans to counter the Dems.....and then when it comes time to actually vote for them, they don't.....this is what legislative history shows
with the exception of Medicare Part D there has been no healthcare legislation proposed by the GOP to address the problem at the national level ever.......
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Both you girls are in for a huge loss soon and its sick that you would take sides with this barry who has lied tremendously who has racked up more debt.this is actually going to be easy soon when we attack barry with all his lies in the ads that will be out soon
Your drug addled brain isn't capable of putting two and two together so I'll tell you how it REALLY is.
Neither the republicans or democrats are working in the best interests of the people or the country. They haven't been for a long time. To blindly think one is better than the other, as you obviously do, just shows unparalleled stupidity.
how many more recessions can your household take before your family starts to track downward? for the past 30 years GOP economic policy has been from the top down and this will continue. which means the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer and the middle-class will disappear....
both party's take the country of the financial precipice. with the dems it's a walk with the repubs it's a sprint....be careful for what you wish for...one needs only to look at the economy's of the south to see the "effectiveness" of conservative economics. texas and fl carry's the entire south in terms of GDP, oil and construction. the wealth of the country is in the north and west, aka...the means of production it's why 75% of the global 500's are located in the northern states...
have you ever looked at any economic data in your life?
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if you listened to Romneys speach on healthcare reform, he copied the obamacare plan except the means to pay for it. I guess he plans on paying it with unicorn tears.
Obamacare was a model from Romneycare, so it makes perfect sense that it would model obamacare. They're both on the social wellness train, first stop! All aboard for Higher taxes!
I can agree with both parties are this countries financial and I add moral demise.
the top 20% control about 85% of the wealth. amount of wealth held by the bottom 40% of the population in the lowest two quintiles hold just 0.3% of the wealth in the United States.
The socialist plan is to remove the middle class, the people who's back our country was built on, both parties are guilty of this removal, the democrats will get it done faster than the republicans. Class warfare is what obama is trying to do now in high gear, faster than any president in the history of the USA, hence obamacare. He is smart and he is getting done exactly what he planned to do, he reminds me of a car salesman, that sells you all the shit you don't need, because he never tells you the real cost, until you've already signed the paperwork, and it's too late then.
You think the Dems will have a bigger impact on dragging down the middle class than the GOP? You do realize the dems are trying to pass tax cuts for the middle class while the GOP is primarily concerned with the wealthy, right? If they cut the taxes on the wealthy, they either have to cut services to the middle class or raise taxes on them. Neither party is going to cut spending. While the GOP likes to say they will, they also like to start wars and not pay for them. The Dems like to start social programs they can't pay for, but at least they spend on things that actually improve the lives of Americans. Personally, I think all of the Bush tax cuts need to go and comprehensive tax reform needs to happen. This includes lowering tax rates, cutting loopholes, and bringing the capital gains rate in line with regular income.
who's talking about lowing taxes for the rich? the current tax rates have been in place for over ten years. the repubs want to keep all the current rates as they have been for over a decade now. so how are they lowering taxes on the rich ? makes no sense. its just an election time scam by the democRATS....
what you're really talking about here is class warfare. These tax breaks have been in place for 10 years for rich and poor. more accurately dems are wanting to raise taxes for the rich, and say they are lowering taxes for poor and middle class, but the tax breaks are already there, nothing is changing for poor and middle class... c'mon man you're smarter than this.
It's all out class warfare, divide and conquer, separation of the masses, united we stand, divided we fall. blah blah blah, there is nothing new going on here.
Is there really a difference, we're not taking in revenue and the tax base is getting smaller. ALL of the tax rates need to go back. All of the loopholes then need to be removed, and we can see where we can lower rates after we see how much we collect compared to what we spend.
The rates should be higher right now. GWB had them elapse when they did because they weren't paid for. This was supposed to be a temporary experiment and it failed. Would you say that you are better off than you were 10 years ago? I make way more money than I did 5 or 10 years ago, but I have no purchasing power. While I am better off than I was a decade ago, the reason I'm better off has nothing to do with the tax rate, I actually pay a higher rate now. If you think the majority of Americans have prospered as a result of these cuts you can't be right in the head. You can call it class warfare or whatever you want, unless you are in the top 10% of income you are worse off as a result of these cuts. Someone has to pay for wars and all of this entitlement spending, and we are getting sicker, not healthier. Costs are only going to go up.
It's only class warfare when the poor want a fair opportunity.
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Hahahahahaha, true dat!
I sense the sarcasm, but it makes no sense?? class warfare is not prejudice.
did you know if they raise the tax on the rich it will fund the Fed govt for 8 days?
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Does your definition of class warfare also include actions by American corporate executives and the wealthy investor economic classes to promote the off-shoring of middle class American jobs , reducing employee benefits and salaries in-order to increase Shareholder returns and increase capital flows to the corporate executive and wealthy investor economic classes?
For some reason some conservatives consider it class warfare when only the upper economic classes do not benefit from government and corporate policy and the lower economic classes do.
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Is it a form of class warfare by the wealthy investor class against the lower economic classes when the middle and lower economic classes are to have social safety net benefits that they are highly dependent on like Social Security and Medicare benefits reduced at the same time maintain a 15% capital gains and dividend tax rate that benefits mostly the wealthy investor class?
Before anyone posts an argument that the middle class owns stocks and benefits from a 15% capital gains and dividend tax rate, yes they do own stocks.
However they own them mostly within 401k retirement plans and they pay ordinary income taxes on any distributions.
Before anyone posts an argument that the middle class owns stocks and benefits from a 15% capital gains and dividend tax rate, yes they do own stocks.
However they own them mostly within 401k retirement plans and they pay ordinary income taxes on any distributions.
How do Liberals make such blanket statements based on their stereotype mentality of conservatives...?
its based on the self righteous superiority complex, ignorance/denial of life's opportunities, among other things...
Greed and selfishness are roots of many evils in our world, class warfare is only one of them, it knows no prejudice. There will always be poor and rich, servant and master. Get over your ideology of a fair world and finacial equality as a birthright, you work for what you want, or you settle for what you have or can get for free. Life is full of choices, you/ we all people are where you are today based on choices you made yesterday.
Learn from an old saying, it was told for a reason...
Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach him how to fish, he eats for life.
its based on the self righteous superiority complex, ignorance/denial of life's opportunities, among other things...
Greed and selfishness are roots of many evils in our world, class warfare is only one of them, it knows no prejudice. There will always be poor and rich, servant and master. Get over your ideology of a fair world and finacial equality as a birthright, you work for what you want, or you settle for what you have or can get for free. Life is full of choices, you/ we all people are where you are today based on choices you made yesterday.
Learn from an old saying, it was told for a reason...
Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach him how to fish, he eats for life.
The stereotypes and blanket statements go both ways, hate to break it to you.
Nobody is asking for financial equality, just for the field to not be tilted so much in favor of the wealthy that they continue to get more and more while everyone else is getting less and less.
People know how to fish, 99% just aren't allowed to go fishing.
of course they can, I am not responding with blanket statements, I am responding to his...
greed and selfishness bro, greed and selfishness. Starting bigGER government programs isn't going to solve the issues this world has, if it could, the ones we have would be doing great, most people don't realize how big our government is, nor how much they waste. If things were truly privatized the markets, wages and the like would self regulate via us, the people dealing with one another. Government interference skews everything, they are bought and sold via corporations lobbying for legislation that gives them advantages and convolutes the market place.
I understand what I want and stand with is a pipe dream also, but I am not jumping ship to pick a popular side, both parties suck big government ass.
the reason people can't fish, is the BIG government that both parties love so much has taken away God given rights and replaced them with regulations and codes.
All of the stuff they are looking to cut will fund it for fewer days, what's your point? They need to raise revenue AND cut expenditures, doing one or the other won't work, which is why the GOP looks foolish right now. Besides, they'd probably just start an unpaid, pointless war and spend all of the savings anyway.
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or maybe it's the simple fact that US conservatives are the ONLY PEOPLE in the entire world still using the term "free markets" when they have never existed at the international level in world history....
i understand it fully, and still want you to drop the act.
well at least you got Russia right (partially) , the rest isn't in Europe. Stop calling me stupid.
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Without destroying your position on depth, Romney didn't raise taxes .01 cent to pay for it. Obama's HC plan will cost you trillions. (in tax dollars)
Actually, Obama's plan saves me about $150 a month, which is why I'm cool with it. Chances are I can probably have enough write-offs this year to get it for free. None of the taxes he proposes is going to hit me, although I don't agree with the taxes that hit the wealthy. The taxes in the ACA should come from taxes on sugary beverages, alcohol, and other things deemed to lead to negative health incomes, not taxes on cadillac plans and medicare taxes on higher earners. We're never going to fix the healthcare system without making the assholes who will eventually suck all of the money out of the system (i.e. obese people) pay.
you do realize that fiat currency have no intrinsic value. Taxation is employed to establish the fiat money as currency, giving it value by creating demand for it in the form of a private tax obligation that can only be met using the government's currency. An ongoing tax obligation, in concert with private confidence and acceptance of the currency, maintains its value. so increasing taxes on those that have been effected by inflation the least is the most logical choice.
Milton Friedman was wrong in his theory that constantly increasing the money supply would be a good thing
