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cruising on tren

damn bro I have a feeling in 10 -15 years from now your going to regret how much gear you abuse now, and all your medical issues your gonna have your going to blame on gear use when you were young, just a thought bro but your only 22 and probably use more gear then any body on this board, cruising on 500mg of test is a mild cycle not a healthy cruise and the amount you say you do on cycle is alot. you should look like a pro already lol...butcha don't. If you ever what kids (witch is the best thing that ever happened to me) your going to have to mellow out a bit, just saying brother. Im no doc but it seems your headed down a bad path

ITT, people not understanding how much aas, gh, insulin professional bodybuilders take. (i know ur just playing tho)


in an earlier post, i stated that im never going to go over 2 grams again, most likely never even 1.5 grams for 10 weeks at a time.
 
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Interesting idea, I am looking forward to your blood results.

I've read the article posted earlier in this thread, Trenbolone for Androgen Replacement Therapy
I 've got a feeling that if I ever go on blast and cruise again, my cruises are gonna be 100mg Test E + 75mg Tren E;)
 
ITT, people not understanding how much aas, gh, insulin professional bodybuilders take. (i know ur just playing tho)


in an earlier post, i stated that im never going to go over 2 grams again, most likely never even 1.5 grams for 10 weeks at a time.

I do understand how much they take and they are 3x the size of you and take similar amounts.


- SHREK
 
doesnt tren fuck your thyroid? not a good idea to cruise on surely...
 
Cruising on Tren is just f'ing retarded ! Anybody who knows or has been in the game for a while will agree.. I mean please!!!
 
Never heard of this....but i have heard of plenty of people cruising on eq, and or deca. Would this be that much worse than 200mgs of deca a week with test?
 
Eq and deca are quite a bit milder than tren, not nearly as high of androgen, doesn't impact your cns nearly the same way. You can cruise on anything lol!!!! But what is the positive???? Who cares about the negative. If you need to cruise on anything but test you either have 1. A drug problem and you just enjoy pinning yourself or 2. Shitty genetics


- SHREK
 
I do understand how much they take and they are 3x the size of you and take similar amounts.


- SHREK

didnt markus ruhl weigh 120 pounds when he was 19?

do you honestly think that professional bodybuilders only take 2 grams of juice a week? lol.. is that what they are telling you?


you do know that they are years older than me, and have been blasting and cruising with significantly higher doses (and other drugs) for numerous years longer than i have?

nah.. couldnt be :coffee:
 
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im not one to be compelled by broscience.. i am influenced by solid facts based on studies, tests, and reports. So far, all ive gotten are opinions.

I know there isnt a long term test (or any human trial at all) with tren, which is why im going to give it a shot.. it's not like im going to keep up with it if it really is damaging to my body.

fwiw, im doing this protocol, because a guy who used to work for schering in germany (for 9 years) suggested it.

and to whoever said that blast/cruisers love poking themselves.. a friend of mine is a diabetic who has to poke himself 7 times a day.. i poke myself once a week while cruising and twice a week while blasting.. sooo...


i am going to be taking a MUCH more modest and conservative approach to cylcing here in the future. From this point forward, i vow to never ?exceed 1.6 grams of gear per week while blasting.

i dont want to be THAT big anyways.. i still want to look human.. like a bigger version of frank zane
 
I def know that doses are larger and huge amounts of slin and GH are involved as well. But I guarantee Ruhl was 50 lbs heavier than you on half the gear that's all I'm saying. You can't compare yourself to a Pro because you have no where near pro genetics


- SHREK
 
I def know that doses are larger and huge amounts of slin and GH are involved as well. But I guarantee Ruhl was 50 lbs heavier than you on half the gear that's all I'm saying. You can't compare yourself to a Pro because you have no where near pro genetics


- SHREK

see? there u go again lol.. there is no way you could possibly know this for a fact.. it's just sensational nonsense. Im not saying that i do have the genetics of a professional bodybuilder, but come on.. enough of the nonsense please.

even if i did have the genes to be a pro, i wouldnt want to be.. it's a full on 24/7 job that is only appreciated and admired by the people who understand it (barely anyone). The amount of drugs i would have to take, and pinning that i would have to do + doctor visits every 2-3 weeks in order to get a CHANCE at being paid (have to win).. just doesnt sound worthwhile.

i do want to look good, but most importantly i want to be healthy. we have kinda gotten off track here, as this thread is about cruising on tren E, it's affect on general health and wellbeing.. not being a professional bodybuilder
 
two last things about professional bodybuilders then im going to only discuss cruising on tren E.

1. I admire pro bodybuilders to death, and really wish they could get the recognition they deserve.

2. bodybuilders from the 70s were the same height as bodybuilders today, but weighed 60-70 pounds less. I mean, frank zane was mr. olympia how many times? and he was my height (5'9 or so) and 190 on stage..


30-40 years ago, bodybuilders still looked human, now, like i said before they are 60-70 pounds heavier at the same height.. what do you think happened? do bodybuilders today have way better genetics for building muscle than bodybuilders of the late 70s? or is it more juice + b/c'ing + gh + insulin + follistatin + etc. etc.

i swear, it honestly seems like a lot of guys just parrot whatever nonsense they hear without thinking for themselves.. disturbing really..
 
Comparing yourself to frank Zane is sensational nonsense... His Frame and waist was much smaller than yours. And your drug abuse is exactly what's different with now a days compared to the 70's etc


- SHREK
 
Comparing yourself to frank Zane is sensational nonsense... His Frame and waist was much smaller than yours. And your drug abuse is exactly what's different with now a days compared to the 70's etc


- SHREK

ok good, so you do understand that it's mostly drugs and not just genetics (especially these days)

and btw, i wasnt comparing myself to frank zane, just using his frame to support my assertion (seems to be a bit of a foreign concept around here) He was 190 at 5'9, 30 years later they are 250-265 at 5'9

unless there were decades of selective breeding going to on churn out today's pros, i think it's reasonable to assume that genetics dont play as much of a role as we have been trained to believe.

that's what i was trying to say
 
Frank Zane was considered tiny even back in his day brother


- SHREK


perhaps, but if my math is correct, had zane been as tall as arnold, he would have weighed 240lbs (im not great with volume calculations but im pretty sure im right..)

Anyways.. i see the term gear "abuse" being thrown.. pretty loosely around here. It becomes abuse when the individual is damaging himself, yet continues gear without any alteration or change in his method/dosing/whatever.. a bit presumptuous to throw around a phrase like that, especially at me.

i get regular checkups, tests, etc to make sure im in good shape.. shit i think im the only one on this board who doesnt drink alcohol.. a lot of guys here drink while using orals.. and im the one abusing gear?

i strongly believe, that running tren with a lower dose of test is easier on the body, because it is not affected by aromataze or 5-alpha reductase. I also believe that the only reason why tren damages the liver is because of the BA content in it..as far as i know there is no evidence that it is bad for the kidneys.. rather rust colored metabolites being excreted.

we shall see who is right.
 
I agree with sd, besides possible blood pressure issues, which I have none, I don't see why a low dose of tren is inherently bad for you. Where are the studies showing it directly damages any bodily organs/functions? I'm using a very moderate dose and a Legit trt amount of test 125mg a week. I've added around 125mg eq to suit my personal situation of an injury and I dont think anyone would say that's dangerous. Am I heavily shutdown? Most definitely, but I'm cruising forever so what difference does it make? I've shed no hair, have noticed no prostate issues, have no aggression or anxiety above what I normally experience. I will get bloods in a few more weeks to check lipids etc but I seriously doubt this is even a fraction as unhealthy as running 1-2g plus of aas year round as im sure many even in npc bodybuilding do.
 
i tip my hat to you boys, im scared to be on the blast cruise life.

Currently on 50mcg t3, 800mg Tren A, 400 Test P. 50mg Var...unfortunately my 10 week cycle ended a while back and from the looks of it im going to be going for 20...sigh
 
i tip my hat to you boys, im scared to be on the blast cruise life.

Currently on 50mcg t3, 800mg Tren A, 400 Test P. 50mg Var...unfortunately my 10 week cycle ended a while back and from the looks of it im going to be going for 20...sigh


that's how it starts
 
Cruising is 200 mg of Test E or Cyp a week or every 2 weeks. Not finaplex :coffee:
 
ide have to find it again and if i remember correctly..... i DID come across a study talking about using tren for trt purposes because it has less of an effect on prostate enlargement, i cant remember if it was just a thought experiment or an actual study to be honest
 
Common sense SD..LOL I didn't know you had the OP bro! Or I would of posted " that's SD, he'll run everything AND the kitchen sink"..

perhaps.. but if no one is willing to experiment.. try something new, then we will never find out if there is something that works better.


i mean.. think about it, the possibility of being leaner and drier, with better nitrogen retention, gh whatever, nutrient partitioning, etc.. with less affects on the prostate?

there has to be a better way of doing things than what is generally accepted.
 
You show me where (finaplex) is healthy to cruise on? Not parabolin from the 80's early 90's but finaplex pellets? Just one definitive study concluding that Tren Ace is for cruising not a cycle!!!
 
You show me where (finaplex) is healthy to cruise on? Not parabolin from the 80's early 90's but finaplex pellets? Just one definitive study concluding that Tren Ace is for cruising not a cycle!!!


i know it doesnt matter, but im using tren E, not A. and just because there isnt a study showing that tren is safe to cruise on, doesnt mean it isnt safe..

that's like saying since you cant prove that god doesnt exist, then he exists, and vice versa.
 
Personally I think its a bad idea, and I wouldn't do it. But if it weren't for people like SD who want to push the limits and try new things, how would we ever truly know what the effects would be.
 
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