What's the best T to use for TRT?

[gypctravlr]

Since I can get a lot of stuff over the counter here in Nepal (of from India), I need to know what the best T is for therapy. Unable to recall Dr's name so I can't call him to find out what he was using. I just assumed that it was Sus 250. But from what I read I doubt it very much as he was injecting every two weeks.

E or C?
Or the box carol is holding? (price is right tv show).

Thanks!!

 

[Mkpaint]

e or c are very similiar e is usally a little stronger dosed. both are most common for trt. im using test e myself

 

[juggernaut]

I believe sustanon is a good compound, as it gives both long and short term esters. I may be wrong.

 

[s2h]

Sust is very solid....2 injections ew like monday/thursday.....keeps levels very stable...

 

[JUSTRIGHT]

I am trt , and I prefer test c when cruising

 

[rocker44]

i thinks the short and long esters in sust would not be ideal for trt. thats why the majority of docs and clinics perscribe eather test c or e. i personaly use test c but to each his own.

as far as injections go tiwce a week is best to keep levels steady.
if you inject every 2 weeks you will feel like shit the last week or so, atleast i did any ways

 

[juggernaut]

as far as injections go tiwce a week is best to keep levels steady.
if you inject every 2 weeks you will feel like shit the last week or so, atleast i did any ways

^ This.
As I said before, I have heard that sust is a good compound for TRT, but I havent done TRT. Best to go with someone who knows.

 

[BP2000]

i thinks the short and long esters in sust would not be ideal for trt. thats why the majority of docs and clinics perscribe eather test c or e. i personaly use test c but to each his own.

as far as injections go tiwce a week is best to keep levels steady.
if you inject every 2 weeks you will feel like shit the last week or so, atleast i did any ways

Sust would be fine if he is injecting 2x per week. Most doc's use test c or e on 1x per week protocols for the convenience factor.

 

[Digitalash]

if you can pin 2x a week with insulin pins that would be ideal, pick one ester either enan or cyp. 1x a week works as well but not as stable, something like undecanoate could be injected less frequently but I don't know the dosing exactly

 

[hoyle21]

I pin 200mgs once a week of Watson test cyp. I'm going to try 100mgs twice a week soon to see if there is a difference. Honestly,my test level was 172, so even this is worlds better than I was feeling.

 

[rocker44]

Sust would be fine if he is injecting 2x per week. Most doc's use test c or e on 1x per week protocols for the convenience factor.

dont know much about sust. i know it has prop in it, witch is injected ed or eod so i assumed sust had to be injected atleast eod to mainteain test levels. my bad

 

[rocker44]

I pin 200mgs once a week of Watson test cyp. I'm going to try 100mgs twice a week soon to see if there is a difference. Honestly,my test level was 172, so even this is worlds better than I was feeling.

how do you feel on like the 5th or 6th day after you pin? i start feeling like crap around there so twice a week works alot better for me. every one is diff though

 

[hoyle21]

It hasn't been something I have noticed. I feel pretty consistent, but I pin on Sunday so maybe I'm not noticing the drop off because it would fall on Friday and Saturday.

 

[turtle10000]

Sustanon's longest ester is 21 days being deconate, it's not a practical choice really, single longer esters such as test-c and e are the prefered method and really every 3rd day injections at 50mg is a TRT dose, you can play with this once you get your bloods and levels are stable, you may need more or less, remember when you are talking about TRT doses, you need to be realistic as the body generally produces 7mg per day naturally, if you do say 150-200mg per week in can be detrimental to you in the long run and you are goinf to have to be dialed in to what's happening with your estrogen, just saying, as for test-c or e, they are essentialy the same thing one has a longer ester than the other and e is said to be slightly stronger in some circles but to tell the truth I have not bothered in to looking into that. Athough you may hold slighlty less water with test-e.
cheers mate.

 

[s2h]

i'm on trt scripted(watson cyp) at 200mg ew..i pin a 1/4 cc eod with a sin pin and find i feel the best stability with this..i have used sust also with this method a find it to be very similiar..the sust seems to give a lil more kick due to the short esters in it...it can also depend on the sust brand...some have more or less of the diff esters in them..so results could vary..

 

[joboco]

i'm on trt scripted(watson cyp) at 200mg ew..i pin a 1/4 cc eod with a sin pin and find i feel the best stability with this..i have used sust also with this method a find it to be very similiar..the sust seems to give a lil more kick due to the short esters in it...it can also depend on the sust brand...some have more or less of the diff esters in them..so results could vary..

Sounds good, but how do you do that when all you can get on script is 1ml ampules?

 

[SloppyJ]

Script comes in vials. But if it was in amps you could get a vial and transfer it or just pre-load some pins.

 

[lgm1942]

Best results I have had is every Thursday, that give me a good strong weekend and I seem to stay well for 7 days.
Larry Mandrell

 

[BFHammer]

Test C actually becomes stronger, I forget why exactly that is. I think Heavy had a posting on it. I think it lasts longer and has more overlap time. I'm doing smaller doses eod with slin pin along with b12. Still working on the VA stepping it up from 100/w to the max allowed of 400 as my free test is .7 test is only 3-400 on the 100.

 

[smithf3]

hey bro check out this article. it talks about Test Undecanoate:

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/...tethe-marathon-man-of-testosterone-esters.pdf

 

[littlekev]

hey bro check out this article. it talks about Test Undecanoate:

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/...tethe-marathon-man-of-testosterone-esters.pdf

Yup this is what i say, and pin much less

 

[brundel]

I like cyp

 

[keith1569]

Enth or cyp work well

 

[s2h]

Sounds good, but how do you do that when all you can get on script is 1ml ampules?

Any sust used would not be scripted...the watson comes in 10ml vials..to get 10ml vials you need to be scripted at least 200mg ew for 10 wks...if not you will get.the 1 ml vial..which are normally sandoz brand..

 

[s2h]

Test C actually becomes stronger, I forget why exactly that is. I think Heavy had a posting on it. I think it lasts longer and has more overlap time. I'm doing smaller doses eod with slin pin along with b12. Still working on the VA stepping it up from 100/w to the max allowed of 400 as my free test is .7 test is only 3-400 on the 100.

Actually test e is a little longer due to having 1 more ester then cyp...but its a pretty min diff...

 

[Researcher]

I've been on TRT for over 10yrs... I've tried all esters of Test. I much prefer Sust types... With Test E and C I would take weekly shots of 150-200mg and I would always feel like I needed to take my shots before the 7th day... With Sust types I feel great everyday of the week...horny everyday, great energy and mood...With Sust types I can miss my dose for a few days and still feel great. I don't know why Dr's prescribe Test C and E but I will say most Dr's don't have a clue as most will start you on 100mg every 2 weeks which will give you low test level and a rollercoster ride... With Sust types, I get a spike with the fast esters with each shot which keeps me feeling great.

 

[lgm1942]

Best results I have had is every Thursday, that give me a good strong weekend and I seem to stay well for 7 days.
Larry Mandrell

Sorry I didnt give enought info. I am a male age 70 my Test was almost 0, went on injections 200 every other week, didnt feel that good the
second week, asked the dr. about going to 100 each week, it worked fine I dont seem to have any bad days can work out in the heat here in
Texas like a 40 yr old. Have the sexual desire back but dont get a real woodie without adding Celias tried a larger doce of T and all I got was
pimples on my back. Hope this helps someone.
Larry Mandrell

 

[gypctravlr]

how much sus do you pin and how often?
My blood test showed about 3700. I want it to be at around 1000.
do you do est blockers? What's good?

thanks

 

[iSteroids]

Some people might disagree with me but I prefer Testosterone Cypionate for TRT use.

http://www.isteroids.com/

 

[bulldogz]

Actually test e is a little longer due to having 1 more ester then cyp...but its a pretty min diff...

You might want to re-check the half life of test e and c

I like cyp myself