Intermittent Fasting

[BulkMeUp]

would you care to define "works for me"?

could you post a pic of your physique?

I like the protocol as I'm not a breakfast person. I've found best results especially in cutting using IF than the 6 meals a day. Also I found that the 6 meals became a pain especially on weekends. I always had to schedule things and figure out when to eat next and social life became restricted.

However, Martin Berkhan on his leangains.com site does say that it may not suit everyone and he also says that he doesn't claim that it is the best protocol. There are other diet protocols that could get you good results as well. So it is a question of finding what you like and can live with. Hence in my case IF "works for me"

This pic was taken in mar this year at 11-12% bf. First time I saw my abs.

 

[Standard Donkey]

I like the protocol as I'm not a breakfast person. I've found best results especially in cutting using IF than the 6 meals a day. Also I found that the 6 meals became a pain especially on weekends. I always had to schedule things and figure out when to eat next and social life became restricted.

However, Martin Berkhan on his leangains.com site does say that it may not suit everyone and he also says that he doesn't claim that it is the best protocol. There are other diet protocols that could get you good results as well. So it is a question of finding what you like and can live with. Hence in my case IF "works for me"

This pic was taken in mar this year at 11-12% bf. First time I saw my abs.

i see

 

[blergs.]

I think its crap myself.... to each his own...

 

[supaman23]

I'm not a morning person so I workout after after work. I do 2 meals pre wo and 1 post wo. Works for me as, like Martin, I'm not a breakfast person either.

I'm not a morning person either. I wake up at around 8-9am, eat my first meal at 12-1pm, workout at 6pm then eat my 2nd meal after the gym. Sometimes I might eat a 3rd time at night. But this is cause I'm cutting/recomping.
If I was bulking, which I haven't tried yet on IF, I might do the same as you and eat a 2nd meal before my workouts.

 

[supaman23]

how tall are you supaman?

I'm 5'11 SD. I am happy with my shape so far except for my chest. I'm trying to improve it cause it needs it bad

 

[supaman23]

I'm no diet expert, and never claimed to be that's why I hired someone. My diet knowledge isn't very good.

I've done it both ways, I just like eating less more often.....but, that's just me.

If IF works for you great.

I respect your opinion Sir. I have no issues with someone doing/recommending the "6 meals a day" diet plan.

But a lot of those people who use it make claims that it's the only way for a BBer to eat and that if 3 hours went by without eating anything, your body will go catabolic and burn muscle, which is a bullshit claim.

 

[supaman23]

I can put up pics but I don't wanna blow people away

Kidding fellas, In a couple of month I'll post pics. I wanna finish up my current cycle first. Getting some LEAN GAINS with my first and current Tren cycle.

 

[Standard Donkey]

I'm 5'11 SD. I am happy with my shape so far except for my chest. I'm trying to improve it cause it needs it bad

so you are 5'11, 185 pounds at 10-12% estimated?

 

[supaman23]

so you are 5'11, 185 pounds at 10-12% estimated?

Yep, that's correct. Well I'm closer to 12-13% I think. I am not carrying a lot of muscle but look good regardless. I have veins coming out of my triceps, forearms and my back is even cut, striations in my delts and great muscle seperation in my arms. My chest is lacking though. The only thing that is making my BF% high is my core (although I do have visible abs) because of the lack of cardio (bad feet), bad genetics for losing fat and not training abs on a regular basis.

Like I said though I will post pics in january (mid to end) and you can see how I look. Hopefully I won't get bashed to the ground.

I respect your opinion though SD. You seem like good people.

P.S: I only started juicing not even 2 years ago (When I started I was 160lbs and a bit higher BF than now), and only had 2 successful cycles. I did a couple that were a fail due to fake gear or bad workouts/diet.

 

[Standard Donkey]

Yep, that's correct. Well I'm closer to 12-13% I think. I am not carrying a lot of muscle but look good regardless. I have veins coming out of my triceps, forearms and my back is even cut, striations in my delts and great muscle seperation in my arms. My chest is lacking though. The only thing that is making my BF% high is my core (although I do have visible abs) because of the lack of cardio (bad feet), bad genetics for losing fat and not training abs on a regular basis.

Like I said though I will post pics in january (mid to end) and you can see how I look. Hopefully I won't get bashed to the ground.

I respect your opinion though SD. You seem like good people.

P.S: I only started juicing not even 2 years ago (When I started I was 160lbs and a bit higher BF than now), and only had 2 successful cycles. I did a couple that were a fail due to fake gear or bad workouts/diet.

well now im really curious to see what this looks like

 

[supaman23]

well now im really curious to see what this looks like

My high BF is a bit deceiving, cause if it weren't for the 3-5 pounds around my core that I need to lose I'd look ripped. if I hide my mid-section and you see the rest of me (my arms/shoulder/back/quads), you would think that I am sub 10% BF.

But in any case words are cheap, I'll post pics in a month or so and hopefully I won't dissapoint

 

[LAM]

the only fasting the body needs is at night during sleep. the long period of time with out ingesting food during sleep allows the insulin receptors on muscle cells to become more sensitive.

the problem I have with planned fasting is it allows cortisol levels to increase which is the most catabolic hormone in the human body. keeping cortisol levels low is 2nd best to keeping insulin levels low and stable keeping the body in a anabolic state.

fasting is not a problem for those that use gear, it changes the equation completely.

 

[XYZ]

I respect your opinion Sir. I have no issues with someone doing/recommending the "6 meals a day" diet plan.

But a lot of those people who use it make claims that it's the only way for a BBer to eat and that if 3 hours went by without eating anything, your body will go catabolic and burn muscle, which is a bullshit claim.

Let it go. You're not an expert, you said it yourself. Just get off the soapbox and trying to shove it down the throats of others. Thank you.

 

[BulkMeUp]

the only fasting the body needs is at night during sleep. the long period of time with out ingesting food during sleep allows the insulin receptors on muscle cells to become more sensitive.

the problem I have with planned fasting is it allows cortisol levels to increase which is the most catabolic hormone in the human body. keeping cortisol levels low is 2nd best to keeping insulin levels low and stable keeping the body in a anabolic state..

Are you talking about fasting in general or Intermittent fasting as Martin Berkhan suggests?

 

[supaman23]

Let it go. You're not an expert, you said it yourself. Just get off the soapbox and trying to shove it down the throats of others. Thank you.

Thank you for your kind words but...

You said it yourself, you're not a nutrition specialist and you hired someone to take care of your diet. So you let it go first. You just had to poke didn't you? I had already stopped posting about this topic..

 

[theCaptn']

Thank you for your kind words but...

You said it yourself, you're not a nutrition specialist and you hired someone to take care of your diet. So you let it go first. You just had to poke didn't you? I had already stopped posting about this topic..

When you get sick of looking tall and rake thin, consider hiring a nutritionist as well

 

[BulkMeUp]

I don't understand all this negativity towards IF especially coming from the mods. Did you guys even do any research into it? at least on this very site?

Here are a few examples from this site....

Intermittent, low-carbohydrate diets ? more effective than standard diets by Michelle Bosmier (NaturalNews) A new study coming from a team of scientists at the Genesis Prevention Center, University Hospital in South Manchester, England reveals that intermittent, low-carb diets are more efficient in reducing weight and insulin blood levels than regular diets. High levels of insulin [...]
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An Objective Look at Intermittent Fasting By Alan Aragon & Ryan Zielonka Over time, the ancient practice of fasting seems to periodically find its way into modern fitness subcultures. Despite its purported physiological and psychological benefits, scientific data is far from unanimously supporting it. Are there any physiological advantages to increasing or decreasing meal frequency? [...]

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Intermittent fasting promotes brain health by Michelle Bosmier (NaturalNews) According to a new study carried out at the National Institute on Aging in Baltimore, fasting for one or two days each week may help improve the condition of individuals suffering from Alzheimer?s and Parkinson?s. Researchers have found that stopping nearly all food intake for short [...]
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BTW, Martin Berkhan addressed the 1997 study on his site, under myths: Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health: Diet Mythology. (See Myth 5)

There's no rule that says you have to eat 6 small meals. 3 meals, 6 meals, whatever - doesn't matter - no impact on your ability to efficiently metabolize food.

You might check out Intermittent Fasting (IF) - Search in the Diet forum here for some of the discussions and also check out the definitive website: Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health. I also see John Berardi (I like this guy!) has a free e-book (Intermittent Fasting | John Berardi Intermittent Fasting Free E-book)

I know a number of people use it (some are very intense crossfitters to illustrate that it isn't a fad or an impact to your ability to perform at high intensity) and get great results and it tends to be well-suited for long-shift workers.

Or just simply go w/ the 3 meals or whatever works for you. The only important point is to get your daily macronutrients. The "when" and "how often" doens't really matter. What matters is that your lifestyle supports the approach you take so it is comfortably doable and doesn't impact your ability to meet your daily obligations.l

For cutting I prefer to go low carb and or intermittent fasting until later in the day...then get my calories and carbs later in the day around the workout or ckd style and carb up on the weekend. I'm a carb junkie so I have to keep them low or I'll nibble all day. I'm currently doing a mix of Intermittent fasting, TKD and CKD.

And last but not the least...
Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health: Client results

 

[theCaptn']

I don't understand all this negativity towards IF especially coming from the mods. Did you guys even do any research into it? at least on this very site?

The issue is related to some skinny n00b stating eating 5-6 times a day is bunk 'bro-science'

 

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Skinny noob^^^

 

[Tris10]

It got quiet in here

 

[Robert Parrish]

Does one still do the (same) IF routine on non-lifting days? As I'm doing it, biggest (& 1st) meal is right after noonish lifting session, then taper off calories on next two meals. Best I can figure is keep hourly eating routine the same, but eat less at each meal on non-lifting days.

 

[BulkMeUp]

Does one still do the (same) IF routine on non-lifting days? As I'm doing it, biggest (& 1st) meal is right after noonish lifting session, then taper off calories on next two meals. Best I can figure is keep hourly eating routine the same, but eat less at each meal on non-lifting days.

You are doing it right.

Martin says he is not very strict on the biggest meal being the first meal on off days. If you have family obligations, for example, then you may prefer to have dinner as your largest meal. But if you don't have any restriction, then it is ideal to have the first as the biggest meal.

And yes, maintain a similar feeding window throughout the week.

 

[Lorenzokk]

Well I eat between 3pm and 7pm approximately based, on how tight I am with my diet plan. On the
saturdays and sundays, I may stray away from it a bit and overindulge. I really like it for the comfort
and the wellness advantages.

 

[Lorenzokk]

Well I eat between 3pm and 7pm approximately based, on how tight I am with my diet plan. On the saturdays and sundays, I may stray away from it a bit and overindulge. I really like it for the comfort
and the wellness advantages.

San mateo personal trainer

 

[Hill Mart]

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[mastamixin]

IF works for me but is def not for everyone

 

[heavylifting1]

I have fasted plenty of times. Its all about still consuming some whey shakes and BCAA's so your body feels like its flushed. A good thing to do is to drink a lot of water and eat next to none for a few days while still consuming whey shakes.

 

[Gorm]

Great to see this topic show up as I just started IF about a week ago. I have no where near the bodyfat % a lot of you guys have. I am probably around 20-25%. Since I started IF about a week ago I have lost 2 inches off my waist, no shit. I put on some dress pants for work one day and was shocked.

I work a graveyard shift so I sleep from 8am-4pm, then I work out fasted. After my workout I eat during a four hour window before I have to go back to work, about 6:30pm-10:30pm. I have a couple low calorie whey shakes during my fasted part of the day (110-150 Cal each).

I know Cardio is important but with what little time I have to begin with, I'm gonna lift. I jog to and from my gym that's only 10 minutes each way, and that's it right now.

 

[dave 236]

To me, a diet plan without testoturbo, the bodybuilding supplement is just another day without the perfect workout! I got it at explicitnutrition.com

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[Bonerstomp]

Why would you fast and starve your muscles of nutrients dude