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actually no I do not mean the big businesses that employ millions of people that give people jobs to work. I mean the people that are begging for obama phones, living off of welfare, training ebt cash for drugs, getting gov't assistnace because they dont know what birth control is and ect. people that we pay taxes to that do zero in return. At least all of those companies give back in some sort of way period. How about this lets shut down all the big business and go to local owners for small business and see how many people we employ. Use your logic how many mom and pop stores can employ the amount of people this country has it would be impossible. Then the price of goods would be outragous you live in a world with flowers and hugs, free medical for every one, free welfare for everyone. All of that should be a priveledge why should some one get medical when they do not earn it. It should not be a right. Why should I go to work every day spend 50k on a higher degree and sacrifice every thing i have to make a solid living only to help support some one thats worthless. I will gladly give my money to big corps over some drug invested worthless being.

As for some one losing a child over a shooting that is a sad event, but if that was me it would only make me fight the legal system to outlaw gun free zones. Citizens with Conceal permits should be aloud to carry a gun, teachers and faculty that have permites should be aloud to carry on school grounds. Look at where every shooting this year has taken place... A gun free zone. If they knew that parents and teachers could be walking around with a gun they would think twice about that. Now you will say ooo we dont need every one at school carrying a gun when there not responsible. You have to pass a strict back ground check, a test, and take courses and update your courses to conceal carry. every one who carries takes pride in their right to carry and is responsible. They are not some gun carying gang member.

You notice that no all the parents are protesting gun laws only some, they probably never even shot a gun in their life. So you can take your liberal mindset some where else and your dream of tarnishing our constition.
 
so what does it have to do with one administration compared to the other? all politicians have multi faceted reasons for everything they do and neither side puts the good of the people first and foremost.
I just never mentioned any other party. I merely made a statement about your recent posts(regarding your constant defense of our president) and the contradiction in the post I quoted.

p.s. your affiliation does nothing to my desire to make sexy time with you. :)
 
The big difference is one side is hell bent to change and abolish out constitution and the other side isnt. They want compelte gov't control... what benifit do we have with that? why should my tax dollars go to worthless people that want to live off of society? Why do they make it so easy to milk the system? Why are we putting so much money into a flaud health care system when our country is broke? Why do we trust a man with our money that shipped our stimulus funds over seas? Last question how can he be an American when he doesnt like foot ball?
Or black?
 
actually no I do not mean the big businesses that employ millions of people that give people jobs to work. I mean the people that are begging for obama phones, living off of welfare, training ebt cash for drugs, getting gov't assistnace because they dont know what birth control is and ect. people that we pay taxes to that do zero in return. At least all of those companies give back in some sort of way period. How about this lets shut down all the big business and go to local owners for small business and see how many people we employ. Use your logic how many mom and pop stores can employ the amount of people this country has it would be impossible. Then the price of goods would be outragous you live in a world with flowers and hugs, free medical for every one, free welfare for everyone. All of that should be a priveledge why should some one get medical when they do not earn it. It should not be a right. Why should I go to work every day spend 50k on a higher degree and sacrifice every thing i have to make a solid living only to help support some one thats worthless. I will gladly give my money to big corps over some drug invested worthless being.

As for some one losing a child over a shooting that is a sad event, but if that was me it would only make me fight the legal system to outlaw gun free zones. Citizens with Conceal permits should be aloud to carry a gun, teachers and faculty that have permites should be aloud to carry on school grounds. Look at where every shooting this year has taken place... A gun free zone. If they knew that parents and teachers could be walking around with a gun they would think twice about that. Now you will say ooo we dont need every one at school carrying a gun when there not responsible. You have to pass a strict back ground check, a test, and take courses and update your courses to conceal carry. every one who carries takes pride in their right to carry and is responsible. They are not some gun carying gang member.

You notice that no all the parents are protesting gun laws only some, they probably never even shot a gun in their life. So you can take your liberal mindset some where else and your dream of tarnishing our constition.
She's not against gun ownership.
 
She seems to defend him allot for wanting to ruin our 2nd ammendment...

The only things hes going to accomplish in this 4 years is fuck up medical, fuck up gun laws, and attempt to ban college football. Glade everys vote counted.
 
She seems to defend him allot for wanting to ruin our 2nd ammendment...

The only things hes going to accomplish in this 4 years is fuck up medical, fuck up gun laws, and attempt to ban college football. Glade everys vote counted.
Yea, I'm still not sure what's going on in her head.
 
actually no I do not mean the big businesses that employ millions of people that give people jobs to work. I mean the people that are begging for obama phones, living off of welfare, training ebt cash for drugs, getting gov't assistnace because they dont know what birth control is and ect. people that we pay taxes to that do zero in return. At least all of those companies give back in some sort of way period. How about this lets shut down all the big business and go to local owners for small business and see how many people we employ. Use your logic how many mom and pop stores can employ the amount of people this country has it would be impossible. Then the price of goods would be outragous you live in a world with flowers and hugs, free medical for every one, free welfare for everyone. All of that should be a priveledge why should some one get medical when they do not earn it. It should not be a right. Why should I go to work every day spend 50k on a higher degree and sacrifice every thing i have to make a solid living only to help support some one thats worthless. I will gladly give my money to big corps over some drug invested worthless being.

As for some one losing a child over a shooting that is a sad event, but if that was me it would only make me fight the legal system to outlaw gun free zones. Citizens with Conceal permits should be aloud to carry a gun, teachers and faculty that have permites should be aloud to carry on school grounds. Look at where every shooting this year has taken place... A gun free zone. If they knew that parents and teachers could be walking around with a gun they would think twice about that. Now you will say ooo we dont need every one at school carrying a gun when there not responsible. You have to pass a strict back ground check, a test, and take courses and update your courses to conceal carry. every one who carries takes pride in their right to carry and is responsible. They are not some gun carying gang member.

You notice that no all the parents are protesting gun laws only some, they probably never even shot a gun in their life. So you can take your liberal mindset some where else and your dream of tarnishing our constition.

how can i make you understand that people who work for greedy corporations like walmart are on welfare and will stay on welfare? you are against result but for the cause? unless you demand everyone make a livable wage for their work you support people walmart will not pay fairly. those people begging for Obama phones and you to buy their heating oil this winter... they work at walmart.
 
i don't think any of these jack holes really thought much about gun free zones etc. they were just batshit crazy and no one did shit about them being dangerous till they boiled over. banning any kind of rifle or making neat little pro gun zones is not going to stop some nutbag with a mad-on from hurting people.
 
i don't think any of these jack holes really thought much about gun free zones etc. they were just batshit crazy and no one did shit about them being dangerous till they boiled over. banning any kind of rifle or making neat little pro gun zones is not going to stop some nutbag with a mad-on from hurting people.

you realize that the movie theatre shooting was a pretty far distance away from his home and the drove past many other places that supported guns and alloud guns in theatres, where as the theatre he went to was a gun free zone. One of the only theatres around him that was gun free. Also the school that he shot up has zero motive period and he did not live close to the school either... You don't see criminals attacking police stations.
 
how can i make you understand that people who work for greedy corporations like walmart are on welfare and will stay on welfare? you are against result but for the cause? unless you demand everyone make a livable wage for their work you support people walmart will not pay fairly. those people begging for Obama phones and you to buy their heating oil this winter... they work at walmart.

ok any what qualifies most of them to make a higher wage? In order to get paid more you have to have qualifications. Not every one that works at walemart is on welfare either. It sounds a like a huge issue with budgeting if you ask me. Go to any person on welfare and ask to barrow their phone and check out their iphone or andriod with a data plan. Or their new shoes and ect. Now I understand the owner of walmart is a ass, but thats one corperation... if they don't like working there so much why don't they bust their ass at a night school thats probably gov't funded and learn a trade like welding, contruction, accounting, and ect. Why because they are lazy and have no drive to better them selves and would rather have people like you bitch for them and bitch how big business is the reason why they are poor. I make good money... Actually great money. I did not grow up with a silver spoon my mom was a single mom that was a beautician. Its called motivation and drive. Which they do not have and I refuse to defend a lazy person. If they are so broke then buy a damn lawn mower and on your off time go mow lawns for 10$. My mom use to go around painting address numbers on curbs to help pay bills. She never bitched that its the walmarts fault thats a fucking excuse and excuses are for worthless people.
 
Mass killings occur in USA once every two weeks

A third of mass killings didn't involve guns at all. In 15 incidents, the victims died in a fire. In 20 others, the killer used a knife or a blunt object. When guns were involved, killers were far more likely to use handguns than any other type of weapon.
 
every person in this country should be able to live on a 40 hour paycheck. if you disagree stop whining about welfare. it doesn't take a degree to dig a ditch or sell underwear but we still need people to do those jobs. if you want to support sub standard pay do not complain about filling the financial gaps for people in those jobs. it's not like walmart can't afford to pay them...
 
if a shit ton of walmart employees are costing taxpayers over 2 thousand a year in welfare why are we in a better position supposedly to pay that than walmart?

80 percent of walmart employees are on food stamps. that's ridiculous.

one 200-person Wal-Mart store may result in a cost to
federal taxpayers of $420,750 per year ? about $2,103 per employee.

Specifically, the low wages result in the following additional public
costs being passed along to taxpayers:



$36,000 a year for free and reduced lunches for just 50 qualifying Wal-Mart families.

$42,000 a year for Section 8 housing assistance, assuming 3
percent of the store employees qualify for such assistance, at $6,700
per family.

$125,000 a year for federal tax credits and deductions for
low-income families, assuming 50 employees are heads of household with a
child and 50 are married with two children.

$100,000 a year for the additional Title I expenses,
assuming 50 Wal-Mart families qualify with an average of 2 children.

$108,000 a year for the additional federal health care costs
of moving into state children?s health insurance programs (S-CHIP),
assuming 30 employees with an average of two children qualify.

$9,750 a year for the additional costs for low income energy assistance.?
 
every person in this country should be able to live on a 40 hour paycheck. if you disagree stop whining about welfare. it doesn't take a degree to dig a ditch or sell underwear but we still need people to do those jobs. if you want to support sub standard pay do not complain about filling the financial gaps for people in those jobs. it's not like walmart can't afford to pay them...

actually ditch diggers make allot of money they are called engineers or heavy equipment operators... No not every one should be able to live off of a 40 hour paycheck. That is communism in its finest. It would bring no desire to excel or be motivated. Why would I must my as to become an IT or a Farm when I can live off of any job working 40 hours? You can not be serious with that. Its called being hard working if you work at wallmart and you don't like it then get qualified to work else where simple as that. Saying there are no jobs is a fucking excuse. PERIOD... There are SOOO many fields that pay higher amounts of money that are hiring it is just that walmart is an easy job and they hire any one. Why dont you look at stats then. Pull up background checks of people on welfare that work at wall mart and tell me how many of them have a criminal background. They have to earn there way back up from the bottom. So sad should not have stolen that car you idiot.

Your arguement is more towards wall mart and you blame EVERY big business for a handfull of curropt companies. What type of computer did you buy I bet they have little 8 year olds in handcuffs putting together their harddrives, or cell phone and ect.

This is were you went off your rocker.. You feel that every one is entitled to some thing.. NO!!! you have to earn it. This is the problem with America EVERY one feels some one or some thing owes them. No one owes you shit. Its not the gov't job to take care of your family, put a roof on your head. Its yours. Its your responsibility to be a grown adult, get an education, get work experience, dont sleep and keep working until you achieve greatness. I bust my ass period work two jobs plus serve in the reserves and a full time student to get my masters. So I can be successful. That is what hardworking is, that is what it takes to survive. Doing the minimum will barly keep you afloat. THe problem is these fuckers working at walmart want a flat screen tv, want an iphone, want nike shoes, they want want want. But they never only buy what they need. I drove a 500$ mitibitshi galant when I was making 50k a year with no bills so i can save to buy my farm. Its called being responsible. PERIOD>

if a shit ton of walmart employees are costing taxpayers over 2 thousand a year in welfare why are we in a better position supposedly to pay that than walmart?

80 percent of walmart employees are on food stamps. that's ridiculous.

one 200-person Wal-Mart store may result in a cost to
federal taxpayers of $420,750 per year ? about $2,103 per employee.

Specifically, the low wages result in the following additional public
costs being passed along to taxpayers:



$36,000 a year for free and reduced lunches for just 50 qualifying Wal-Mart families.

$42,000 a year for Section 8 housing assistance, assuming 3
percent of the store employees qualify for such assistance, at $6,700
per family.

$125,000 a year for federal tax credits and deductions for
low-income families, assuming 50 employees are heads of household with a
child and 50 are married with two children.

$100,000 a year for the additional Title I expenses,
assuming 50 Wal-Mart families qualify with an average of 2 children.

$108,000 a year for the additional federal health care costs
of moving into state children?s health insurance programs (S-CHIP),
assuming 30 employees with an average of two children qualify.

$9,750 a year for the additional costs for low income energy assistance.?
 
actually ditch diggers make allot of money they are called engineers or heavy equipment operators... No not every one should be able to live off of a 40 hour paycheck. That is communism in its finest. It would bring no desire to excel or be motivated. Why would I must my as to become an IT or a Farm when I can live off of any job working 40 hours? You can not be serious with that. Its called being hard working if you work at wallmart and you don't like it then get qualified to work else where simple as that. Saying there are no jobs is a fucking excuse. PERIOD... There are SOOO many fields that pay higher amounts of money that are hiring it is just that walmart is an easy job and they hire any one. Why dont you look at stats then. Pull up background checks of people on welfare that work at wall mart and tell me how many of them have a criminal background. They have to earn there way back up from the bottom. So sad should not have stolen that car you idiot.

Your arguement is more towards wall mart and you blame EVERY big business for a handfull of curropt companies. What type of computer did you buy I bet they have little 8 year olds in handcuffs putting together their harddrives, or cell phone and ect.

This is were you went off your rocker.. You feel that every one is entitled to some thing.. NO!!! you have to earn it. This is the problem with America EVERY one feels some one or some thing owes them. No one owes you shit. Its not the gov't job to take care of your family, put a roof on your head. Its yours. Its your responsibility to be a grown adult, get an education, get work experience, dont sleep and keep working until you achieve greatness. I bust my ass period work two jobs plus serve in the reserves and a full time student to get my masters. So I can be successful. That is what hardworking is, that is what it takes to survive. Doing the minimum will barly keep you afloat. THe problem is these fuckers working at walmart want a flat screen tv, want an iphone, want nike shoes, they want want want. But they never only buy what they need. I drove a 500$ mitibitshi galant when I was making 50k a year with no bills so i can save to buy my farm. Its called being responsible. PERIOD>

being able to live off a 40 hour paycheck is very different than being able to afford a ferrari. i dare say there would still be incentive to excel beyond a 40 hour paycheck affording you the basics. 40 hours basic should mean a person can afford to survive on their own without other tax payers paying their way. if you don't agree then keep paying for walmarts welfare workforce n hush up. you cannot just prefer to buy fancy phones with your paycheck and get welfare. you have to show you cannot afford rent, food, heat, medical care etc. it's a shame when any working person here can't afford 3 hots n a cot.
 
every person in this country should be able to live on a 40 hour paycheck. if you disagree stop whining about welfare. it doesn't take a degree to dig a ditch or sell underwear but we still need people to do those jobs. if you want to support sub standard pay do not complain about filling the financial gaps for people in those jobs. it's not like walmart can't afford to pay them...

being able to live off a 40 hour paycheck is very different than being able to afford a ferrari. i dare say there would still be incentive to excel beyond a 40 hour paycheck affording you the basics. 40 hours basic should mean a person can afford to survive on their own without other tax payers paying their way. if you don't agree then keep paying for walmarts welfare workforce n hush up. you cannot just prefer to buy fancy phones with your paycheck and get welfare. you have to show you cannot afford rent, food, heat, medical care etc. it's a shame when any working person here can't afford 3 hots n a cot.

This is where your blind i see it ALL the time at food max the biggest bulk store that takes ebt where I live. There will be some one in line with ebt paying for EVERY thing and using wicc and they will have a brand new phone nails done ect follow them out and there in an esculad lol. This happens all the time my steph father is the main guy for juvinile probation and he sees it all the time people with an iphone 5 on welfare. They cant do shit about it unless there is child neglect. you have some serious blinders on. Its funny how you worship the lazy and worthless but bash every thing else. and shit i wish i could buy a fararri...

so your saying the 18 year old kid working as a window washer should make over 2400 where i live because thats about what it takes to make a living working 40 hours a week. NO!!!! minimum wage and if you do not like that then go bust your ass to get a better job period.

So please tell me do you think your super hero Obama is going to do any thing wallmart lol... NO... Ok he taxes them more so ok they fire more employees, they do away the the greeter. tell me what does that do? Obama is going to shit abosolutly NOTHING to big business the only thing he cares about is gun control and medical period. I know what he did... He raised every one where I work at's taxes. some people dont even make enough to survive like you say and they just got taxes 150$ more a month when they were all ready living pay check to paycheck wheres your fucking super hero now. 15 of our employees had to go get ebt because of that recent tax increase.
 
poor little thailand kids slaving away to put together that harddrive...

Wallmart allways have mobile 1 really cheap so they have my support. The tax $s that i spend on them I will make it up with good sales.
 
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This is where your blind i see it ALL the time at food max the biggest bulk store that takes ebt where I live. There will be some one in line with ebt paying for EVERY thing and using wicc and they will have a brand new phone nails done ect follow them out and there in an esculad lol. This happens all the time my steph father is the main guy for juvinile probation and he sees it all the time people with an iphone 5 on welfare. They cant do shit about it unless there is child neglect. you have some serious blinders on. Its funny how you worship the lazy and worthless but bash every thing else. and shit i wish i could buy a fararri...

so your saying the 18 year old kid working as a window washer should make over 2400 where i live because thats about what it takes to make a living working 40 hours a week. NO!!!! minimum wage and if you do not like that then go bust your ass to get a better job period.

So please tell me do you think your super hero Obama is going to do any thing wallmart lol... NO... Ok he taxes them more so ok they fire more employees, they do away the the greeter. tell me what does that do? Obama is going to shit abosolutly NOTHING to big business the only thing he cares about is gun control and medical period. I know what he did... He raised every one where I work at's taxes. some people dont even make enough to survive like you say and they just got taxes 150$ more a month when they were all ready living pay check to paycheck wheres your fucking super hero now. 15 of our employees had to go get ebt because of that recent tax increase.


so now that your employees are on welfare they will be able to afford iphones...
because welfare is clearly about greed not need. :coffee:
 
poor little thailand kids slaving away to put together that harddrive...

Wallmart allways have mobile 1 really cheap so they have my support. The tax $s that i spend on them I will make it up with good sales.

you obviously didn't look at the links.

HP Global Human Rights Policy
 
this pertains to what?

that a nutbag hellbent on killing isn't going to be stopped by gun legislation. remember the distraught dad that drove his car into a daycare playground? it's not even a gun issue in my opinion and the pro and anti gun are both missing the mark arguing guns. we need to yell about there being no effective way to deal with dangerous lunatics.
 
that a nutbag hellbent on killing isn't going to be stopped by gun legislation. remember the distraught dad that drove his car into a daycare playground? it's not even a gun issue in my opinion and the pro and anti gun are both missing the mark arguing guns. we need to yell about there being no effective way to deal with dangerous lunatics.

Amen, sister.
 
So please tell me do you think your super hero Obama is going to do any thing wallmart lol... NO... Ok he taxes them more so ok they fire more employees, they do away the the greeter.

Do you realize that taxes are at nearly an all time low?
 
actually ditch diggers make allot of money they are called engineers or heavy equipment operators... No not every one should be able to live off of a 40 hour paycheck. That is communism in its finest. It would bring no desire to excel or be motivated. Why would I must my as to become an IT or a Farm when I can live off of any job working 40 hours? You can not be serious with that. Its called being hard working if you work at wallmart and you don't like it then get qualified to work else where simple as that. Saying there are no jobs is a fucking excuse. PERIOD... There are SOOO many fields that pay higher amounts of money that are hiring it is just that walmart is an easy job and they hire any one. Why dont you look at stats then. Pull up background checks of people on welfare that work at wall mart and tell me how many of them have a criminal background. They have to earn there way back up from the bottom. So sad should not have stolen that car you idiot.

Your arguement is more towards wall mart and you blame EVERY big business for a handfull of curropt companies. What type of computer did you buy I bet they have little 8 year olds in handcuffs putting together their harddrives, or cell phone and ect.

This is were you went off your rocker.. You feel that every one is entitled to some thing.. NO!!! you have to earn it. This is the problem with America EVERY one feels some one or some thing owes them. No one owes you shit. Its not the gov't job to take care of your family, put a roof on your head. Its yours. Its your responsibility to be a grown adult, get an education, get work experience, dont sleep and keep working until you achieve greatness. I bust my ass period work two jobs plus serve in the reserves and a full time student to get my masters. So I can be successful. That is what hardworking is, that is what it takes to survive. Doing the minimum will barly keep you afloat. THe problem is these fuckers working at walmart want a flat screen tv, want an iphone, want nike shoes, they want want want. But they never only buy what they need. I drove a 500$ mitibitshi galant when I was making 50k a year with no bills so i can save to buy my farm. Its called being responsible. PERIOD>

My first job in high school was retrieving shopping carts at Walmart and believe me I got in great shape pushing 20-50 carts at a time for 6-8 hours. Somedays I'd have to work 12 hours on a school night because management had decided to only have 1 cart pusher scheduled when they needed 2. They cut hours so often that it puts a strain on those that are scheduled. I got promoted to cashier and then sporting goods and went from $7 to $8 whole dollars an hour. Dealing with some of those customers was no walk in the park either especially at checkout when upper management decides to only have half the cashiers they should have and you have a queue of 20 people waiting in your line and are going as fast as you can and every other customer you checkout bitches at you for making them wait in line...a line that seems to never end by the way for the next 4 hours until you go on break and then as you walk to the breakroom you get stopped 10 times by customers wanting you to physically walk them to where they can find the watchamajig on sale or the thing we had 2 years ago when they bought one and can't find anymore because Walmart probably dropped the vendor or it isn't made any longer. Plus you have to put away all the shit people decided they didn't want so by the time you get to the break room you have 5 minutes left on your 15 minute break.
 
^ anyone working that hard has earned a roof over their head, heat, lights, and groceries. doesn't have to be fancy but too bad people can't agree at least to that. i just can't see how it makes sense to anyone that working for wages that keep you on welfare is good for America.
 
if we just make all guns illegal it'll solve the problem. just like banning drugs. we have no one who uses drugs in the US because its illegal. And banning or restricting access to guns will not produce a black market run by murdering gangs, just look at how well the banning of drugs has done. no black market, no gangs, and no people in prison for putting a substance in their own body. it's always best to have the govt own your body and tell u what u can put into it.
 
The Democratic Staff of the Committee on Education and the Workforce estimates that one 200-person Wal-Mart store may result in a cost to federal taxpayers of $420,750 per year ? about $2,103 per employee. Specifically, the low wages result in the following additional public costs being passed along to taxpayers:

  • $36,000 a year for free and reduced lunches for just 50 qualifying Wal-Mart families.

  • $42,000 a year for Section 8 housing assistance, assuming 3 percent of the store employees qualify for such assistance, at $6,700 per family.

  • $125,000 a year for federal tax credits and deductions for low-income families, assuming 50 employees are heads of household with a child and 50 are married with two children.

  • $100,000 a year for the additional Title I expenses, assuming 50 Wal-Mart families qualify with an average of 2 children.

  • $108,000 a year for the additional federal health care costs of moving into state children's health insurance programs (S-CHIP), assuming 30 employees with an average of two children qualify.

  • $9,750 a year for the additional costs for low income energy assistance.
Among Wal-Mart employees, some single workers may be able to make ends meet. Others may be forced to take on two or three jobs. Others may have a spouse with a better job. And others simply cannot make ends meet. Because Wal-Mart fails to pay sufficient wages, U.S. taxpayers are forced to pick up the tab. In this sense, Wal-Mart's profits are not made only on the backs of its employees - but on the backs of every U.S. taxpayer.

blaming the poor for poverty makes as much sense as blaming a gun when a madman shoots people.

And Best Buy, Kohls and Target is much better?

I'm not defending walkmart, but the fact is they drill down their vendors on price so they can sell products for usually less than their competitors. Walmart is all about the bottom line and that includes keeping costs such as wages down.

That said, I recently befriended (new pub buddy) an asst manager at walmart and he clued me in on some management wages. An asst manager no longer requires a degree and can range from 36K-76K and 76K is a hard cap to encourage the employee to move up the ladder. An average sized store manager can make 120K easily and if his store profit hits all four quarters, he can see a bonus as big as his salary.
 
every person in this country should be able to live on a 40 hour paycheck. if you disagree stop whining about welfare. it doesn't take a degree to dig a ditch or sell underwear but we still need people to do those jobs. if you want to support sub standard pay do not complain about filling the financial gaps for people in those jobs. it's not like walmart can't afford to pay them...

you obviously didn't look at the links.

HP Global Human Rights Policy

you obviously dont know crap about computers. Electronic media right now is being made in thailand which has one of the worst trafficing in persons geographic areas. So what they put a notice on there site so you can sleep at night and send an inspector out to have dinner with the CEO of western digital once a year.
 
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