???What gear to run with EQ for a bulk cycle????

[D-Lats]

I'm going from experience. Your point of view quotes are great and if that's how you operate that's good for you. Myself and thousands of other guys would say you are wrong. I'm not in this thread to argue with you. I would tell the op to run Eq if he's interested it's a great drug increases appetite and cardio for most. I'd run it 16 weeks at 600mg and sust eod(not 3 days a week) actually pin it every 48 hrs. This would be a good cut or bulk cycle depending on diet.

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

obviously people run test alone but that is the foundation for most everyone...so have you ever tried eq? what were you neg exp?

 

[Digitalash]

deca or tren E, oral front and back

 

[Standard Donkey]

That would be correct. It's a stacker. this thread is out of hand with drama.

a "stacker"..

this term (never heard it before) would suggest that it is inferior by nature.. as it cannot effectively be used by itself.

I'm going from experience. Your point of view quotes are great and if that's how you operate that's good for you. Myself and thousands of other guys would say you are wrong. I'm not in this thread to argue with you. I would tell the op to run Eq if he's interested it's a great drug increases appetite and cardio for most. I'd run it 16 weeks at 600mg and sust eod(not 3 days a week) actually pin it every 48 hrs. This would be a good cut or bulk cycle depending on diet.

ok.. well human endocrinology will say that you need a dopamine agonist to combat ED from increased prolactin caused by the employment of 19nors.. and that increasing test will not help lol.

obviously people run test alone but that is the foundation for most everyone...so have you ever tried eq? what were you neg exp?

i got a lot of acne and hypertension. vascularity and increased endurance was nice, but not worth it


ill leave the thread with this.. pinning an extra ML of test will always be more effective than pinning a ML of eq.. every time. (cheaper too)


i hope that i didnt cause too much shit, i was only trying to help

 

[hypo_glycemic]

^ good point on the dopamine!

 

[Jdubs]

gottcha fellas, now i kno the breakdown on EQ's do's and dont's...last thing i wanna kno is a good pct to run after a 12 week eq cyp cycle, i know that is one of the most important things to do after a cycle, and i didnt run one last year and i was all fucked up so i need to know what to get

 

[Milwdude]

Good posts and info, trying to bulk myself

 

[Digitalash]

serm + suicidal AI for pct

AKA clomid or nolva + aromasin or formestane

 

[longworthb]

Test 600 deca 3-400 eq 600 for 14-16 weeks dbol kicker now that's a bulk cycle

 

[HFO3]

My text is red.

How so? EQ is a favorite of mine to stack, great results very little water retention.

im going to guess you have never run EQ by itself?

HFO3 and Dlats stack EQ with other compounds i hope this helps

That would be correct. It's a stacker. this thread is out of hand with drama.

blood work should be done by anyone who uses AAS, PERIOD.

a "stacker"..?

this term (never heard it before) would suggest that it is inferior by nature.. as it cannot effectively be used by itself. To stack is to run more than one compound together in a single cycle, it does not suggest it is inferior to the other compound by nature, but rather works well with it. I'm guessing you knew that^^^





ok.. well human endocrinology will say that you need a dopamine agonist to combat ED from increased prolactin caused by the employment of 19nors.. and that increasing test will not help lol. good statement.



i got a lot of acne and hypertension. vascularity and increased endurance was nice, but not worth it


ill leave the thread with this.. pinning an extra ML of test will always be more effective than pinning a ML of eq.. every time. (cheaper too) Thats a hug blanket statement. Do you want to prove this claim? or is this bro science that is true every time?


i hope that i didnt cause too much shit, i was only trying to help

I am not having a pissing match here, you may know way more than me and that' not a problem for me. However, even though EQ isn't "the best AAS" it does deliver, all OP wanted to know was what to add to EQ for a bulk. That is a reasonable question, he got several reasonable answers. I am not knocking you or your knowledge, but not everyone wants to run slin and mass doses of Tren every cycle.

If I remember correctly it wasn't long ago I read about you describing taking MASSIVE doses of everything you stacked (there's that word again) with no blood work. I am sure that was great for your organs, BP and RBC since it was your choice adverse effects do not apply.
More does not always mean better and "Nothin comes for free"

 

[Standard Donkey]

I am not having a pissing match here, you may know way more than me and that' not a problem for me. However, even though EQ isn't "the best AAS" it does deliver, all OP wanted to know was what to add to EQ for a bulk. That is a reasonable question, he got several reasonable answers. I am not knocking you or your knowledge, but not everyone wants to run slin and mass doses of Tren every cycle.

If I remember correctly it wasn't long ago I read about you describing taking MASSIVE doses of everything you stacked (there's that word again) with no blood work. I am sure that was great for your organs, BP and RBC since it was your choice adverse effects do not apply.
More does not always mean better and "Nothin comes for free"

generally speaking, testosterone will cause greater: gains in muscle mass, fat loss effects, sense of wellbeing.. while being far cheaper than EQ, faster acting, and having a far less significant impact on BP, hematocrit, and RBC's

so, when we take this into consideration, i believe that testosterone will always be better than EQ yes.

I understand that he may not want to run massive amounts of tren, but im sure that everyone (especially a noob like the OP) wants to run a cycle that will give him the greatest gains while forcing him to pin the least amount of oil.

and yes, i have described taking "massive" doses (nothing compared to IFBB however so let's be reasonable), and the doses i actually did take were substantial. Blood work that i got done last week revealed that everything was normal with the exception of my liver enzymes both being over 100 (40 being normal) and my hematocrit and RDW being slightly elevated. My blood pressure was 111/75

my doctor told me that i "might want to consider lowering my dose for a little bit".. he didnt even suggest stopping the drugs (he's a G for sure)

i could not believe it, as i was expecting to be seriously "fucked up". It would appear that i am not as sensitive to the negative affects of these drugs as some people tend to be.. (I've run over a gram of tren E with no hair loss, no prostate issues, and normal BP etc.)

of course, i got lucky, and do not recommend what ive done

 

[Jdubs]

My text is red.

Originally Posted by HFO3
How so? EQ is a favorite of mine to stack, great results very little water retention.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey
im going to guess you have never run EQ by itself?

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey
HFO3 and Dlats stack EQ with other compounds i hope this helps

Originally Posted by HFO3
That would be correct. It's a stacker. this thread is out of hand with drama.

blood work should be done by anyone who uses AAS, PERIOD.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey
a "stacker"..?

this term (never heard it before) would suggest that it is inferior by nature.. as it cannot effectively be used by itself. To stack is to run more than one compound together in a single cycle, it does not suggest it is inferior to the other compound by nature, but rather works well with it. I'm guessing you knew that^^^





ok.. well human endocrinology will say that you need a dopamine agonist to combat ED from increased prolactin caused by the employment of 19nors.. and that increasing test will not help lol. good statement.



i got a lot of acne and hypertension. vascularity and increased endurance was nice, but not worth it


ill leave the thread with this.. pinning an extra ML of test will always be more effective than pinning a ML of eq.. every time. (cheaper too) Thats a hug blanket statement. Do you want to prove this claim? or is this bro science that is true every time?


i hope that i didnt cause too much shit, i was only trying to help



I am not having a pissing match here, you may know way more than me and that' not a problem for me. However, even though EQ isn't "the best AAS" it does deliver, all OP wanted to know was what to add to EQ for a bulk. That is a reasonable question, he got several reasonable answers. I am not knocking you or your knowledge, but not everyone wants to run slin and mass doses of Tren every cycle.

If I remember correctly it wasn't long ago I read about you describing taking MASSIVE doses of everything you stacked (there's that word again) with no blood work. I am sure that was great for your organs, BP and RBC since it was your choice adverse effects do not apply.
More does not always mean better and "Nothin comes for free"



********** THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP AND INFORMATION DONKEY, HF03, SAINTS, D LATS, LONGWORTHB, AND THE REST OF YOU GUYS, YEAH IM A NOOB BUT THIS IS THE WAY ILL LEARN THINGS BY TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN RUNNING AAS FOR YEARS AND EXPERIENCED THERE UPS AND DOWNS AND LEARNED THE RIGHT WAY TO DO SHIT, THANKS AGAIN GUYS DEFF LEARNED A LOT OF GOOD INFO BOUT AAS, TTYL DUDES

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