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Those population control measures actually don't surprise me one bit.

And yet the damn population continues to go up. :hmmm:

Guess we need to step up our efforts on the population control. obviously a bullet at a time is not effective enough
 
educated and career minded folk usually stop at 1 or 2 children, poor third world folk usually have tons of kids they cant feed. I would think the obvious solution would be education and giving these people jobs so they have something to do all day rather than make babies

I think it would make more sense to just send them back to their turd-world country. :shrug:
 
And yet the damn population continues to go up. :hmmm:

Guess we need to step up our efforts on the population control. obviously a bullet at a time is not effective enough

i dont agree with them by any means, and who knows if they are being legitimately implemented.. i just wouldnt put it past our govt to come up with something like this
 
Those population control measures actually don't surprise me one bit.

it's one of the reason's how and why you can trace the spread of AIDS in Africa to the WHO & the US. parts of the virus have signatures directly linked to the SS Gestapo. many members having been recruited by the CIA post WWII.

many texts and speeches by world leaders the world bank president bank in the 70's ALL talk about population problems and control.
 
I think it would make more sense to just send them back to their turd-world country. :shrug:

in a consumption based society a small population in an advanced society equals less GDP. it's all about the numbers, you should have realized this by now. all those people you don't like aren't going anywhere. they serve a specific economic purpose
 
it's one of the reason's how and why you can trace the spread of AIDS in Africa to the WHO & the US. parts of the virus have signatures directly linked to the SS Gestapo. many members having been recruited by the CIA post WWII.

many texts and speeches by world leaders the world bank president bank in the 70's ALL talk about population problems and control.

Yup, technology and many of their secrets for immunity.
 
educated and career minded folk usually stop at 1 or 2 children, poor third world folk usually have tons of kids they cant feed. I would think the obvious solution would be education and giving these people jobs so they have something to do all day rather than make babies

poor people in the US and in every country through out history has done the exact same thing. it's one of the inherent problems with a large undereducated class that either lives in poverty or teeters on the brink.

look at the Irish & Italian Catholics in the US they no longer have the huge families that they used to decades ago. most of my friends in Philly are either Irish or Italian and they are all 1 of 5-6, 1 of 7, 1 of 8, etc. and now because of the economy and the cost of raising children they only have 1-2 kids. coincidentally I also have to say I notice a lot less interest in religion with each generation of immigrants so I'm sure that also is a factor.
 
The right to bear arms has nothing go do with dead kids. Sorry. That is our right as Americans to arm ourselves in case we ever want to fight the government.

Non Americans need not discuss.

Lol, I'm pretty sure that guns won't help you fight the government. They have a few fighter jets and nuclear missiles.
 
it's one of the reason's how and why you can trace the spread of AIDS in Africa to the WHO & the US. parts of the virus have signatures directly linked to the SS Gestapo. many members having been recruited by the CIA post WWII.

many texts and speeches by world leaders the world bank president bank in the 70's ALL talk about population problems and control.
you really believe that..wow you are fuck up..man get sum meds:coffee:
 
Lol, I'm pretty sure that guns won't help you fight the government. They have a few fighter jets and nuclear missiles.

You're so right. It'd be a tough fight against a large, better armed, force. Of course there's no point. Wow, it's just like you're channeling the Founding Fathers.

On one hand, you talk about how you don't trust the government, and with the other, you talk about how we should just rollover and take it. ?That's awesome.
 
i dont agree with them by any means, and who knows if they are being legitimately implemented.. i just wouldnt put it past our govt to come up with something like this

I agree, i put nothing past our government. All the more reason I want to protect my guns.
 
Lol, I'm pretty sure that guns won't help you fight the government. They have a few fighter jets and nuclear missiles.

The use of guns is the deterrent. no one wants to fight their government or use guns against them. A military of 500k, used to suppress their own families. vs 350M total armed population. The point is superior numbers even with small arms can work as an effective deterrent. Right now, even with all the planes tanks and weaponry the US government has it could not occupy the entire country while armed. probably a couple of major population centers, though not all. disarm us, and it's all over.
 
That is our right as Americans to arm ourselves in case we ever want to fight the government.

LOL, like we would have a chance in fucking hell against the Federal government.
 
Why do people assume it would be civilians versus "the government"? That's not how it happened in the only civil war we've had. The second amendment also symbolizes the willingness of the people to maintain their freedom. I'd be more worried about a time when the people wish to give up their arms than the government forcefully trying to take them.
 
Why do people assume it would be civilians versus "the government"? That's not how it happened in the only civil war we've had. The second amendment also symbolizes the willingness of the people to maintain their freedom. I'd be more worried about a time when the people wish to give up their arms than the government forcefully trying to take them.

how can civilians fight the power of the US military, not to mention these new drones.
 
how can civilians fight the power of the US military, not to mention these new drones.

How can the federal government expect to occupy an armed civilian population of 350M? drones, or not? To occupy you have to have boots on the ground. Every war in history has taught us that. Drones or not there isn't the manpower to do it, unless we are unarmed and unable to defend ourselves when boots are on the ground. Kinda like how it only took a few men with box cutters to control a plane of hundreds on 9/11. same principle.
 
how can civilians fight the power of the US military, not to mention these new drones.

Good point but why do people assume it would be civilians versus the US military? That's not how it happened in the only civil war we've had.
 
How can the federal government expect to occupy an armed civilian population of 350M? drones, or not? To occupy you have to have boots on the ground. Every war in history has taught us that. Drones or not there isn't the manpower to do it, unless we are unarmed and unable to defend ourselves when boots are on the ground. Kinda like how it only took a few men with box cutters to control a plane of hundreds on 9/11. same principle.

In the event a majority of the population rebels, so will military members. This all the people versus all the military scenario will never happen.
 
In the event a majority of the population rebels, so will military members. This all the people versus all the military scenario will never happen.

I was thinking about before the rebellion began. More in the events leading up to a hypothetical rebellion. When an agency is expanded, or federal police is created and either given expanded powers like a gestapo.
 
How can the federal government expect to occupy an armed civilian population of 350M? drones, or not? To occupy you have to have boots on the ground. Every war in history has taught us that. Drones or not there isn't the manpower to do it, unless we are unarmed and unable to defend ourselves when boots are on the ground. Kinda like how it only took a few men with box cutters to control a plane of hundreds on 9/11. same principle.

blow the fuck out of everyone they want to get rid of first, then take over all areas of the US that they don't blow up.
 
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blow the fuck out of everyone they want to get rid of first, then take over all areas of the US that they don't blow up.

damn, why didn't we think of that outstanding and simplistic strategy in Iraq, and Afghanistan?
 
Lol, I'm pretty sure that guns won't help you fight the government. They have a few fighter jets and nuclear missiles.

that's why we should be allowed to have the same weapons as the govt.
 
that's why we should be allowed to have the same weapons as the govt.

Exactly, in the beginning of this thread I said I wanted to buy a tank and other military weapons.
 
Lol, I'm pretty sure that guns won't help you fight the government. They have a few fighter jets and nuclear missiles.

It doesn't matter and I didn't say beat the government. I would rather fight with a gun that without one whether or not I have a chance of winning. The founders of our country preferred that for me as well - to the extent that they wrote it into our constitution.


I will not give up this right willingly.
 
blow the fuck out of everyone they want to get rid of first, then take over all areas of the US that they don't blow up.
I vote we start with those who oppose gear abuse
 
Exactly, in the beginning of this thread I said I wanted to buy a tank and other military weapons.

yeah the only difference is i mean it, you said it as a joke.
 
You're so right. It'd be a tough fight against a large, better armed, force. Of course there's no point. Wow, it's just like you're channeling the Founding Fathers.

On one hand, you talk about how you don't trust the government, and with the other, you talk about how we should just rollover and take it. ?That's awesome.

Roll over and take what? I want a gun to protect myself from other Americans is all I was saying.
 
In the event a majority of the population rebels, so will military members. This all the people versus all the military scenario will never happen.

UN peacekeepers. out of almost 95K troops 117 of them are from the US for the grand total of .12%. and if you look at the majority of the country's whose member states comprise the largest percentage of troops. they will have ZERO problems firing on Americans.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/contributors/2013/jan13_1.pdf

there are also dozens of private global security firms out there with tens of thousands of personnel. that would also have zero problems with firing on American's. don't be so naive as to think what the US government wouldn't do to those in the now growing underclass. as US history shows they can and will do anything they want.

lots of people talk a good game until the bullets start buzzing by their heads. and anybody that has been in combat knows exactly what I'm talking about. and all of those cheap ass papermache houses that they have built all over the country don't stop bullets for shit. and don't forget that 50% of the country is obese. wtf are a bunch of fat stupid, lazy, junk food and reality tv watching bastards going to do when the shit hits the fan? die...
 
Roll over and take what? I want a gun to protect myself from other Americans is all I was saying.

And from that perspective i believe americans should be just as well armed as the police as we face the same dangers they do, but we face it before the call comes in. So by that regards I want an AR just like they carry.
 
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