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Here's another take... YOUR staying at his place without paying rent and you have dogs and a girl there too. I'd kick my own brother out for that shit. Pay rent and you'll be able to have a say. Get rid of the dogs they area financial burden and if you can't pay rent you shouldn't have them. Lastly keep your mouth shut, you don't pay rent you have no rights. Basically move out if you want all the cool rights of having your own place.
I used to be a construction worker. I had an ok job but it was just ok. I made enough money to have my own place and my own life. I went back to school for computer science (computer programming) After I finished school my older brother who is a software engineer himself wanted to start an app business for android. It was his idea and he pushed it. So I dropped my life and moved out of state and basically lived in his living room. Which was fine and everything has been going pretty well. I started dating a girl pretty much as soon as I got here. Shes slept at my house pretty much every night since we met. So then my older brother got a girlfriend and she wanted to move into a bigger place. They had only been dating like 2 months maybe and they just got a bigger apartment together which of course I live in also. Its a 3 bedroom, plenty of room for all of us. Everything has been going fine here but now today he tells me that his girlfriend wants my girlfriend to basically not come over anymore. And not for any particular reason other than her own control issues or something. My girlfriend literally is perfect. Shes polite, shes clean, she typically is in my bedroom reading. She doesnt disturb anyone. So my brother is telling me that she wants my girlfriend to only come over a couple nights a week max from now on or his girlfriend is moving out. I dont pay rent. And I think thats why they think they can make decisions on what I can do in the house. But Im not only an invited guest but Im his damn brother. The business is literally just becoming self sufficient and isnt making enough money to pay me pay checks yet. So when he was telling me this I was pretty much just saying yea ok Ill work stuff out. But then after thinking about it more and talking to my girlfriend im mad as hell. I dont sleep at my girlfriends house for many reasons. I have a dog that needs to be taken out at night and in the morning. I have a shitty back that needs my mattress to not have back pain in the mornings while my girlfriends bed is literally 5 inches too short for me and is not very comfortable. I cant bring my dogs to my gfs condo either they dont allow dogs. I obviously dont have the time or money to be traveling every night and morning to and from my girlfriends house. I also go to the gym with my girlfriend which this new shit would end that. So now that Ive been laying in bed festering with anger Im thinking about what to tell my brother. I think Im gonna tell him that I didnt come here for that kind of bullshit. If his girlfriend doesnt want to live with other people then she shouldnt have gotten an apartment thats shes basically backing out of now. Im a grown man I cant be having my life dictated by some controlling eastern european girl. Im curious what other people think of this.
THis thread is ridiculous. Move out and stfu. Your the same guy who made a thread to cry about a Board infraction or something ridiculous like that so stfu and move on and please show your brother this thread so he can bitch slap you for posting both of you guys private life on a forum that you said you'd never come back to... Gich. Negged for being a crybaby.
Did you miss the part where he put his life on hold because his brother asked him to start a joint venture with him. Don't be a fucking tool. Cunts come and go but family is forever.
I used to be a construction worker. I had an ok job but it was just ok. I made enough money to have my own place and my own life. I went back to school for computer science (computer programming) After I finished school my older brother who is a software engineer himself wanted to start an app business for android. It was his idea and he pushed it. So I dropped my life and moved out of state and basically lived in his living room. Which was fine and everything has been going pretty well. I started dating a girl pretty much as soon as I got here. Shes slept at my house pretty much every night since we met. So then my older brother got a girlfriend and she wanted to move into a bigger place. They had only been dating like 2 months maybe and they just got a bigger apartment together which of course I live in also. Its a 3 bedroom, plenty of room for all of us. Everything has been going fine here but now today he tells me that his girlfriend wants my girlfriend to basically not come over anymore. And not for any particular reason other than her own control issues or something. My girlfriend literally is perfect. Shes polite, shes clean, she typically is in my bedroom reading. She doesnt disturb anyone. So my brother is telling me that she wants my girlfriend to only come over a couple nights a week max from now on or his girlfriend is moving out. I dont pay rent. And I think thats why they think they can make decisions on what I can do in the house. But Im not only an invited guest but Im his damn brother. The business is literally just becoming self sufficient and isnt making enough money to pay me pay checks yet. So when he was telling me this I was pretty much just saying yea ok Ill work stuff out. But then after thinking about it more and talking to my girlfriend im mad as hell. I dont sleep at my girlfriends house for many reasons. I have a dog that needs to be taken out at night and in the morning. I have a shitty back that needs my mattress to not have back pain in the mornings while my girlfriends bed is literally 5 inches too short for me and is not very comfortable. I cant bring my dogs to my gfs condo either they dont allow dogs. I obviously dont have the time or money to be traveling every night and morning to and from my girlfriends house. I also go to the gym with my girlfriend which this new shit would end that. So now that Ive been laying in bed festering with anger Im thinking about what to tell my brother. I think Im gonna tell him that I didnt come here for that kind of bullshit. If his girlfriend doesnt want to live with other people then she shouldnt have gotten an apartment thats shes basically backing out of now. Im a grown man I cant be having my life dictated by some controlling eastern european girl. Im curious what other people think of this.
i did miss that detail. family will fuck you just as fast as anyone else. i see you dislike women. i hate with a passion controlling bitches but also know when theyre in charge of a mans heart the best thing you can do is give em space. dont do business with someone you live with or are related to. always ends in disaster. good luck get some space
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Actually I love women, I hate bitches that try to take control of every situation they are involved in. His brother is letting a 2 month long girlfriend make decisions because he is a bigger pussy than the OP. He is working for his Brother basicly without pay, so room and board is his pay. All I'm saying is if you let some chick put you're balls in the cookie jar than you deserve what you get I guess.
You know you're probelbly right. The venture is going take off big and his brother is going to fuck him in the ass anyway cause he's such a puss.my point exactly. we are in agreement. thats where my advice comes in take a hike now while he still has something to leave with or shut up and take it up the ass. those are his only 2 options. if he really believes in this company then go for it and get a night job to pay his newly accuired bills.
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I actually just wanted to vent. I knew all you little guys in the "internet bodybuilding army" were gonna hate on me sooner or later but I just wanted to see if I was right to be mad. Im gonna get shit worked out one way or another. To all you idiots who just came on to talk shit and to HF03 you can suck my dick you old faggot. I dont care what you think about me cause youre trash to me. Just some forum junky.
venting accomplished... dont be mad lifes too short unless your on tren then you have permission to murder that bitch.
ill say it again, business and family rarely end well. hell for you it didnt even start well your not getting paid. Think about that for a min. if/when money rolls in who's getting paid first? Id bet your brother not you. your putting in sweat equity and thats only valuable to the person doing it. when money comes then that isnt worth shit. and forget getting back pay for your hours. i guarantee it wont happen unless you have a written and signed contract and log hours. i bet this ends poorly for you. but it will be a valuable lesson that you can build on and move forward from. of course i hope im wrong.
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I still think we need to know how hot these ladies are before we can make a solid call. And do they do anal?
I actually just wanted to vent. I knew all you little guys in the "internet bodybuilding army" were gonna hate on me sooner or later but I just wanted to see if I was right to be mad. Im gonna get shit worked out one way or another. To all you idiots who just came on to talk shit and to HF03 you can suck my dick you old faggot. I dont care what you think about me cause youre trash to me. Just some forum junky.
Ha my gf loves anal.
venting accomplished... dont be mad lifes too short unless your on tren then you have permission to murder that bitch.
ill say it again, business and family rarely end well. hell for you it didnt even start well your not getting paid. Think about that for a min. if/when money rolls in who's getting paid first? Id bet your brother not you. your putting in sweat equity and thats only valuable to the person doing it. when money comes then that isnt worth shit. and forget getting back pay for your hours. i guarantee it wont happen unless you have a written and signed contract and log hours. i bet this ends poorly for you. but it will be a valuable lesson that you can build on and move forward from. of course i hope im wrong.
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You're not that much of a grown man because you are asking for advice from nameless, faceless people on the internet about how you should handle your living arrangement.
I used to be a construction worker. I had an ok job but it was just ok. I made enough money to have my own place and my own life. I went back to school for computer science (computer programming) After I finished school my older brother who is a software engineer himself wanted to start an app business for android. It was his idea and he pushed it. So I dropped my life and moved out of state and basically lived in his living room. Which was fine and everything has been going pretty well. I started dating a girl pretty much as soon as I got here. Shes slept at my house pretty much every night since we met. So then my older brother got a girlfriend and she wanted to move into a bigger place. They had only been dating like 2 months maybe and they just got a bigger apartment together which of course I live in also. Its a 3 bedroom, plenty of room for all of us. Everything has been going fine here but now today he tells me that his girlfriend wants my girlfriend to basically not come over anymore. And not for any particular reason other than her own control issues or something. My girlfriend literally is perfect. Shes polite, shes clean, she typically is in my bedroom reading. She doesnt disturb anyone. So my brother is telling me that she wants my girlfriend to only come over a couple nights a week max from now on or his girlfriend is moving out. I dont pay rent. And I think thats why they think they can make decisions on what I can do in the house. But Im not only an invited guest but Im his damn brother. The business is literally just becoming self sufficient and isnt making enough money to pay me pay checks yet. So when he was telling me this I was pretty much just saying yea ok Ill work stuff out. But then after thinking about it more and talking to my girlfriend im mad as hell. I dont sleep at my girlfriends house for many reasons. I have a dog that needs to be taken out at night and in the morning. I have a shitty back that needs my mattress to not have back pain in the mornings while my girlfriends bed is literally 5 inches too short for me and is not very comfortable. I cant bring my dogs to my gfs condo either they dont allow dogs. I obviously dont have the time or money to be traveling every night and morning to and from my girlfriends house. I also go to the gym with my girlfriend which this new shit would end that. So now that Ive been laying in bed festering with anger Im thinking about what to tell my brother. I think Im gonna tell him that I didnt come here for that kind of bullshit. If his girlfriend doesnt want to live with other people then she shouldnt have gotten an apartment thats shes basically backing out of now. Im a grown man I cant be having my life dictated by some controlling eastern european girl. Im curious what other people think of this.
Yea I think Im gonna tell him if this bullshit is the new rule Im finding another job and moving out with my girlfriend. The app business will just be done with. He hardly even likes the chic. He tells me he gets a nervous anxiety when he goes to see her because shes such a controlling bitch. Worst part is is he's getting custody of his son soon and I cant fathom her staying after that. He knows shes being controlling and cant just be like "no thats unreasonable". Which makes me kind of think that he doesnt want me/my gf around either. In which case Im definitely leaving.
I agree. Im glad you guys think its bullshit too. Cause im like hot in the face mad and cant sleep because of it. Tomorrow he is gonna get a fucking talking from me. Im just gonna tell him. Im a grown fucking man. I dont pay rent but thats not really an issue. I was invited out here to work on starting this business. If im gonna be treated like a fucking kid Im gonna go back to being an adult with a normal day job and my own place.
There are a few points here. First your living in your bros house for free. No cost, how much do you pitch in for food, utilities, bills and ect.?
Sure your providing a service of labor, but did you ever have a written business agreement, family or not if you want a successful business agreement you need written documentation. I have it with my dad, father in law, and brother in law with our farming and businesses. In business, business comes before family, in family if comes before business. We get pissed off at each other all the time but it has never affected our family. Right now your brother has you by the balls, if you piss him off he can control you with out a documented business agreement. I.E 50% of the apt is your due to your labor or you can have what ever guest you want as long as they are not affecting the living standards of the apt or conducting illegal activities. Document EVERY thing, it saved my ass when I went in to my first business with my cousin who i had a falling out with and we bought a bunch of boats together to make a private wake board tour. Basically we drive the boats and you ski all you want. Cousin stopped paying his share, i took him to court and he had to pay me off and we shut it down. Were fine now, but i wasnt going to pay 5k of his debt because he was being a bitch.
Other thing your a software engineer.. I have NO clue where you live or how work is there, but i know all the software engineers where I live are making 30-50$ an hour right out of school in a low income area. My cousin landed his dream job writes programs and works from home making 45$ an hour. There is plenty of cash in this field, I would go develop your own apps and say fuck your bro, family businesses suck unless they can front allot of income, which your brother is only fronting an APT.
all and all, your bro may be a dick, but your a grown ass man.. Move out and start paying taxes, so Obama dont make me pay for you.
The more important questions is... Why are you allergic to paragraphs?
you kinda sound like a pussy beaten by life with the attitude that the only options are to run away or take it in the ass. he vented here instead of waking his brother up, good move. and in the world of intelligent men things can very often be settled with reason. his brother needs a talking to. his brother asked for and was given a second shoulder to the wheel on building this business. he has no money because his brother can't afford to pay him yet and his brother has someone laboring for him for free. he has earned equal rights in the house if you ask me and anyone that says just dump two dogs is as cold hearted as the bitch in question.... wtf?
he has rights and he has every reason to speak up for them.
the talking to should include a contract about the business rights etc.![]()