Effective dose of anavar for women.

[Built]

Cool!

Indeed, cool. So, to loveabull1's girl, honey just stay off EVERYTHING for a while. I don't know what kind of diet you're trying to follow, but PLEASE read the link in my sig on "getting started" and track your diet for a few days on fitday. If you want me to help me set up your diet, drop me a PM. However it is that you've been dieting isn't working for you or you'd be able to stick to it. I diet on high fat, I might be able to help you if you've been trying to do the low-fat, six meals thing but getting too hungry.

Your voice will probably settle down to close to normal within a few months, but like Sassy said, your singing voice may never be the same. There are worse things.

Okay?

 

[sassy69]

Indeed, cool. So, to loveabull1's girl, honey just stay off EVERYTHING for a while. I don't know what kind of diet you're trying to follow, but PLEASE read the link in my sig on "getting started" and track your diet for a few days on fitday. If you want me to help me set up your diet, drop me a PM. However it is that you've been dieting isn't working for you or you'd be able to stick to it. I diet on high fat, I might be able to help you if you've been trying to do the low-fat, six meals thing but getting too hungry.

Your voice will probably settle down to close to normal within a few months, but like Sassy said, your singing voice may never be the same. There are worse things.

Okay?

To further beat on it, here's the one fundamental truth about any of the supplements out there - legal or not - they are only SUPPLEMENTS to an already producing diet & training program. If you don't have the basic diet & training program established and functioning, anything else you throw on top will not make up the difference of your non-performing diet & training program, and in fact, will probably introduce more problems than you had to begin with. And to the end of using male hormones to self-medicate - you're fucking w/ your natural hormone balance. You are now your own personal chemsitry experiment. Hormones are what make up the most fundamental things about us - including our moods, our looks and our view of ourselves. If you're not prepared to deal w/ all of the potential changes - good or bad - you are NOT ready to play w/ steroids.

There is a whole realm of science and art to nutrition & training as it is. I call bullshit on anyone who thinks they've reached they're "natural potential" as an excuse to go play on the dark side. But you're also shortsheeting yourself looking for a quicky fix because you don't want to invest the time & commitment to finding the diet tweaks that your body works best with. Its not a quicky pursuit - I've been at it for 30 yrs of lifting and 10 yrs of competition dieting, and I finally have a pretty good view of how my body likes to work. But there's still soooo much I haven't surfaced yet.

 

[loveabull1]

Wow. High fat diet Built? I'll have to sit down with the wifey and read your info. Iv'e been sticking to my same diet. Over the last few years Iv'e been in the hospital for lower back surgery and pancreas problems. Which is the big reason I finally got back into things since last year. I have to stick to a low fat diet. Makes it pretty easy for me. Nothing fried,greasy etc. Iv'e gotten used to it. Otherwise I end up with bad abdominal pain for days. She was doing good last year when I did most of the shopping. More fruit, every veggie is steamed and I cut out white carbs. This year she has slacked and relied more on me getting her something. And I couldn't agree more with you guys. This is what Iv'e told her till I was blue in the face! Diet! exercise! then gear! I was getting a gut when I had the back problems in 06 and 07. Iv'e always relied more on diet and exercise. I went through a health and rejuvenation clinic for hrt. Got t levels checked and they put me on test and hgh with anti estrogens and then hcg. So I pretty much mimic that to this day. I never go overboard. People can say shit like "damn! them roids are kicking in good" all day long. F them!! I know how hard Iv'e worked to look the way I do and people always think roids are some kind of miracle! I currently stick to 325 of sust, 200 masteron ew and aromisin m,w,f. That's it! It is defineatly a science and more difficult with women. We learned a hell of a lesson this time with her! Thanks for all the advice!

 

[Built]

loveabull1, men and women often require different dietary approaches for a given goal. Men often feel full with protein and high-volume in their diets, but women often feel hungry with this approach, finding fat and protein more filling. I'm one of them, and yes, my cutting diet is high fat. Over the last two months, this has been my average macronutrient breakdown.

Grams Calories %-Cals
Calories 1,851
Fat 97.8 861 47 %
Saturated 28.7 255 14 %
Polyunsaturated 25.4 218 12 %
Monounsaturated 28.0 248 14 %
Carbohydrate 85.6 314 17 %
Dietary Fiber 22.5
Protein 165.2 656 36 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

For reference, I carry 119 lbs of lean mass, and currently weigh 143 lbs. My maintenance when I started was about 2200-2300 calories a day.

I have dropped about seven pounds over this period.

 

[loveabull1]

loveabull1, men and women often require different dietary approaches for a given goal. Men often feel full with protein and high-volume in their diets, but women often feel hungry with this approach, finding fat and protein more filling. I'm one of them, and yes, my cutting diet is high fat. Over the last two months, this has been my average macronutrient breakdown.

Grams Calories %-Cals
Calories 1,851
Fat 97.8 861 47 %
Saturated 28.7 255 14 %
Polyunsaturated 25.4 218 12 %
Monounsaturated 28.0 248 14 %
Carbohydrate 85.6 314 17 %
Dietary Fiber 22.5
Protein 165.2 656 36 %
Alcohol 0.0 0 0 %

For reference, I carry 119 lbs of lean mass, and currently weigh 143 lbs. My maintenance when I started was about 2200-2300 calories a day.

I have dropped about seven pounds over this period.

Nice!! I know she is getting more cals and carbs than you. I haven't competed and counted all my intake since 1992! LOL! New job, stress, marrige, all that good stuff changed everything. Including the time I spent in the gym. I see your point though how your diet would make you feel full for longer. Protein and fiber looks awesome too!

 

[Nightowl]

So, I just read that a great combo is var/ primo. Might you tell me what is the beginners dosage with these two together, or should even a beginner try these?

I mean both are considered a pretty penny, so what or why would you use them together? I mean is it a normal routine for those gals out there getting ready for a show?

 

[Gena Marie]

I have used anywhere between 10 ~ 20 mg depending on the manufacture. It seems to work well, but without proper diet.... What's the point Just my opinion

 

[ParadiseCup]

without proper diet.... What's the point Just my opinion

agreed !! Diet drives mostly everything

 

[sassy69]

So, I just read that a great combo is var/ primo. Might you tell me what is the beginners dosage with these two together, or should even a beginner try these?

I mean both are considered a pretty penny, so what or why would you use them together? I mean is it a normal routine for those gals out there getting ready for a show?

First rule of cycling is never stack stuff together that you've never used individually. You won't know how you' respond to either individually - if you start getting sides you don't like, which will you drop? Do you know which one caused it?

Here's an example of the two together - primo takes about 5 weeks to kick into full gear- var takes about 2 - you could use the anavar to get you going while you're waiting for the other to hit its full 'saturation'.

The question of why would you use both - I'd start w/ why would you need anything stronger than anavar? To begin with, ONLY anavar has the most reliable & predictable sides while producing good, maintainable gains. Primo is much more androgenic and you can pretty much plan on things like scratchy voice / possible voice change, hair loss, higher blood pressure, etc. These are not generally seen w/ var.

So you'd need to have the reason to go w/ something harsher than var to begin with - just because primo is there doesnt' mean that's a good reason to cycle it. For many var is completely sufficient. If you want to play w/ anything more than var, you need to have done your research on the sides you can expect, and then be responsible to own the results AND the sides you end up with. Primo takes longer to clear your system than var does as well, so if you decide you dont' like the sides, you have to wait until the compound clears (ref: detection time) for the sides to clear. And some may remain.

If you want to stack the two of them, also keep in mind that the more you add in, the more you're increasing the results and the sides. Its hard to advise if you don't include a good reason to use primo over var, much less start stacking them.

 

[Nightowl]

My dear Sassy and all the rest, you've always given your all with our questions and I do thank you so much for this. I wasn't too sure what or why they were to be stacked, but what you in particular pointed out Sassy, is the best piece of advice (next to diet, most have touched on that before, and before, and before.."shut up nighty broken record stuff) for me and anyone that has never touched the gears before. The issues of research another guide and great answer! So, Var it is. I'll get more into issues with the sides later if and when I decide to leave Var and the other colorful pills (joke).

thank you!!! I trust you have a great Valentine's Day, for all you ladies deserve it!!

 

[sassy69]

My dear Sassy and all the rest, you've always given your all with our questions and I do thank you so much for this. I wasn't too sure what or why they were to be stacked, but what you in particular pointed out Sassy, is the best piece of advice (next to diet, most have touched on that before, and before, and before.."shut up nighty broken record stuff) for me and anyone that has never touched the gears before. The issues of research another guide and great answer! So, Var it is. I'll get more into issues with the sides later if and when I decide to leave Var and the other colorful pills (joke).

thank you!!! I trust you have a great Valentine's Day, for all you ladies deserve it!!

LOL good luck w/ the gears!

 

[bh_34]

Loveabull1,
How did your wife fare on this anavar? My wife wants to try something to shed some lbs... She is doing Visalus and losing, but is slow and wants to get more lean muscle to burn fat and just feel better in general. she is 38 155 and 5'8 atletic build similar to the pic of your wife you posted. She see's me taking 2 iu's a day with test cypt once a week and see's the benefits of it. I am all for her feeling better but not sure of the path. I only started messing with this stuff when I was 36 and diagnosed with low Test. So, I don't know a lot about it. Any help FROM ANYBODY is appreciated. btw.. she is not fond of needles, but is willing. thank you B&L

 

[Valkyrie]

Loveabull1,
How did your wife fare on this anavar? My wife wants to try something to shed some lbs... She is doing Visalus and losing, but is slow and wants to get more lean muscle to burn fat and just feel better in general. she is 38 155 and 5'8 atletic build similar to the pic of your wife you posted. She see's me taking 2 iu's a day with test cypt once a week and see's the benefits of it. I am all for her feeling better but not sure of the path. I only started messing with this stuff when I was 36 and diagnosed with low Test. So, I don't know a lot about it. Any help FROM ANYBODY is appreciated. btw.. she is not fond of needles, but is willing. thank you B&L

Have her send me an email.

Needles? No anavar will probably be all she needs to achieve her goals. And give her 1iu of HGH ED if its in the house! I have cycled dozens if not hundreds if women.

 

[Newbee80]

For the price. I'd like to start her on 10mg's of winny ed, but, don't want to see her start growing a moustache and all that. I did give her about 75mg's of winny injections ew last spring without much sides and had good results. Any help would be appreciated. We just went to the beach over the weekend and she saw all the thinner younger girls and saw me peeking at them and she is now self contionous and anxious. I told her to give it a month and then see. Of course, that isn't going as planned. She wants results like last year. She did not do anavar last year. What has worked good for some of you ladies on here who are in it for kind of the same reason she is.

Maybe instead of taking the foreign compounds she should change her man! I don't think var or any other compound would help you to not "peeking" at other women out there

I would say 10mg per day - I am 5'10" and 157lbs - Polymetric/cardio 45% lift 55% 4-5 times a week

 

[Star0204]

5 5 5'6
185 lbs
i want to drop till 155
just got my boobs done and tummy tuck
want to drop 32 lbs befor my lipo in october
started taking anavar today and hubby told me that the person he got it for told him to start at 30mg
meaning 2 pills a day of 15 mg is this safe i only want to do this for 2 months

am i doing this right i have the biggest headac

 

[blergs.]

5-10mg ed

but i rec diet for fatloss not aas, doesnt work like that is her diet is off...

 

[sassy69]

5 5 5'6
185 lbs
i want to drop till 155
just got my boobs done and tummy tuck
want to drop 32 lbs befor my lipo in october
started taking anavar today and hubby told me that the person he got it for told him to start at 30mg
meaning 2 pills a day of 15 mg is this safe i only want to do this for 2 months

am i doing this right i have the biggest headac

If you're going by your current weight - keep in mind if you JUST had these surgeries, you're going to be also counting water retention / edema from the surgery. If you are literally measuring 32 lb in 4 months, eh.... I'd rather you threw out your scale and just focused on a clean diet & exercise. However, also given you "just" had these surgeries, you NEED to allow your body to heal properly or you will be having additional surgeries later to clean up things like capsular contracture (if you got implants and not just a lift or something). Additionally a tummy tuck is invasive so needs time to heal.

As per my usual rant, the absolute worst place for women to get recommendations for "how to lose weight" is guys (any guy - I don't care how much you think "he'd never tell me to do something that would hurt me"_ - - it's usually a helpful heart and a pile of ignorance that provides the worst advice. Here's why I feel you have no business messing w/ anavar:

1) its a steroid. It will make you gain lean muscle mass If you're not already lean right now and you're not already on a functioning and consistent diet, training & cardio program, you are going to GAIN WEIGHT and again if you're not already lean, you can plan on looking thicker.

2) You only mentioned weight by the scale and not bodyfat. That's telling me you probably don't have a good grasp of the real goals you think you are looking for. You can also chop off a leg and lose 30 lb. I assume that's not what you want to do here.

3) Repeat on the purpose of a steroid - none of it does anything positive for you if you aren't already using an established, functioning and consistent diet and training program. Given you just got out from multiple invasive surgeries on your torso, you're going to be very limited in what exercise you can safely do while you're healing.

4) 30 mg of anavar is a shitty recommendation for someone who has never cycled, and again probably doesn't have the basics of a diet & training program already in place. 30 mg is not what I'd recommend. If anything 10 mg/day. And again for you, I don't recommend steroids, period. There's a whole other set of sides that you don't get to pick and choose if you want them or not.

My concern is that you're not aware of the sides of self-medication w/ male hormones. Anavar isn't a "fat burner" like so many people seem to think. Just like any other supplement, it can only support the current state of your lifestyle - where lifestyle = diet, training, cardio, recovery. If you want to drop bodyfat in 4 months, the most important thing is going to be your diet. The second most important thing is the exercise or cardio you do, subject to safe recovery from your first 2 surgeries.

I would suggest posting in the diet forum, - post up a typical meal plan for a given day. Post it like:

Meal 1 - 8am
1/2 c oats
1 whole egg + 3 egg whites

Meal 2: 11 am
4 oz chicken
1/2 c brown rice
2 c broccoli

etc.

Then put that meal plan into a food counts program like FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal and post up the total calories and macro nutrient breakdown - % protein / % fats / % carbs. Most people do not make an accurate guess at how much they are really eating. Either too much or not enough, and frequently poor quality food choices. It is usually very easy to make simple tweaks to do a diet to get better results. And the most fundamental truth in fitness is that you are what you eat. It drives the resources your body has to fuel itself. If it is shit quality or too much, or not enough, your body will respond as it can - either storing bodyfat, or shutting down metabolism because it views the lack of food as starvation. End result is the body you have now - if you don't like, then you need to start by changing what you put in. Steroids and everything else people tell you 'will help' or 'kick start' or whatever else happy way you want to describe it - none of it matters until you have the foundation in place. Your body responds to the environment you give it to work with. If you throw in extra things to force a certain result and everything else isn't already lined up in the same direction, you are sending conflicting messages to your body, and whatever results you get will be mediocre because different messages are fighting against each other, and if it gets really bad, eventually your body just says "fuck it, I'm slowing down everything and locking it all down until you can sort out what the hell you want me to do - and then I'll do it at the pace I am designed to do it and no other."

I'd be happy to alter any of the above if you can provide more information, very specifically what is your current diet & training activity. Otherwise I think anavar is not the right tool for you and you should drop the cycle now. Or at the very least drop your dose way do to no more than 10 mg/day and read the "Women & Drugs" post at the top of the women's board.