Zimmerman Rescues Man From The Truck Crash

[bio-chem]

because zimmerman is a scary man with a concealed carry permit and a judge daddy and you just saw him kill an unarmed kid. maybe a lot of nutless wonders out there and a lot of people happy a black boy is dead. but why make the call in the first place if they didn't care? zimmerman supposedly has a temper... can't know for sure but i guess they had their reasons.

exactly, a million different reasons. Including the fact it could just be a bogus call. it's a piece of evidence not to be even taken into consideration. interesting with more substance, but without it, worthless and irrelevant except to those who want to grab any wisp of something to convict a man in the court of public opinion when it couldn't be done in court

 

[Dale Mabry]

This is not a stand your ground case. The defense never even had to mention stand your ground.

Then how is the shooting justified? Plain self defense? How can it be self defense when Zimmerman initiated the encounter? If that's the case Zimmerman is lucky Martin died, had he lived to tell the story I guarantee Zimmerman serves time.

 

[DOMS]

Then how is the shooting justified? Plain self defense? How can it be self defense when Zimmerman initiated the encounter? If that's the case Zimmerman is lucky Martin died, had he lived to tell the story I guarantee Zimmerman serves time.

If someone is talking smack, there is no legal right to physically assault them. If someone attacks you, you do legally have the right to defend yourself.

 

[bio-chem]

Then how is the shooting justified? Plain self defense? How can it be self defense when Zimmerman initiated the encounter? If that's the case Zimmerman is lucky Martin died, had he lived to tell the story I guarantee Zimmerman serves time.

Following someone is not initiating the encounter. it's not illegal to follow someone. Had Martin lived to tell his side then the outcome of the trial might have been different. Martin might have said Zimmerman grabbed him, or got so close that he felt he had not other option. We don't know. What we know is that zimmerman said he lost him, and started to return to his car when he was jumped from martin from behind. Martin's friend the heavyset black girl who took the stand and was speaking to martin on the phone at the time of the encounter could not testify that the encounter happened any differently than zimmerman said.

Remember, the cops who were there and saw zimmerman and martin believed zimmerman's story. After being brought in for questioning originally his story was still believed to be true. It wasn't till 6 weeks later he was even arrested. hmmmmm

 

[troubador]

i would be ashamed of a male partner that was intimidated by my son. i'd break up with the wuss. that's not grasping at any straws.

We know why you said it.

 

[troubador]

Then how is the shooting justified? Plain self defense? How can it be self defense when Zimmerman initiated the encounter?

There's no evidence that Zimmerman initiated a physical altercation or provoked Martin into one. A really simple way to look at is, what illegal act did Zimmerman engage in before Martin punched him?

 

[troubador]

If someone is talking smack, there is no legal right to physically assault them. If someone attacks you, you do legally have the right to defend yourself.

It's become clear people simply are unable differentiate between their disapproval of certain actions and the legality of them.

 

[DOMS]

It's become clear people simply are unable differentiate between their disapproval of certain actions and the legality of them.

They're often the same people that bitch and moan about how the government is taking away our right, but they want to take away more of our rights to make themselves feel better.

 

[bio-chem]

There's no evidence that Zimmerman initiated a physical altercation or provoked Martin into one. A really simple way to look at is, what illegal act did Zimmerman engage in before Martin punched him?

Simple terms are sometimes the best. Well said

 

[Little Wing]

It's become clear people simply are unable differentiate between their disapproval of certain actions and the legality of them.

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

following doesn't appear to be so legal in this context.

were you following him

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[SIZE=-1] A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking[/SIZE]

 

[Little Wing]

zimmerman lied. repeatedly. is that simple enough?

 

[troubador]

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

following doesn't appear to be so legal in this context.

were you following him

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[SIZE=-1] A person who willfully, maliciously, and repeatedly follows, harasses, or cyberstalks another person commits the offense of stalking[/SIZE]

Zimmerman didn't repeatedly follow Martin.

 

[Little Wing]

maybe he did maybe he didn't. the girl trayvon was on the phone with testified that trayvon lost him and then zimmerman was back. the statute says it doesn't matter that these items can occur in a short span of time.

[SIZE=-1]''Course of conduct'' means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short. malicious intent could be argued via the "these assholes, they always get away" comment.
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that it can't be proven doesn't mean it did not occur. honestly don't think zimmerman is done with the courtroom. there's still the nasty business of digitally raping a 6 year old.

 

[DOMS]

maybe he did maybe he didn't. the girl trayvon was on the phone with testified that trayvon lost him and then zimmerman was back. the statute says it doesn't matter that these items can occur in a short span of time.

[SIZE=-1]''Course of conduct'' means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short. malicious intent could be argued via the "these assholes, they always get away" comment. [/SIZE]

If only the prosecuting lawyers knew about these laws...

 

[Little Wing]

if only they had gone with what they could have reasonably nailed him on.

 

[DOMS]

if only they had gone with what they could have reasonably nailed him on.

The judge even through the man slaughter option at the end. Zimmerman still didn't get nailed for that, because...ya know...reasonable doubt. Even you talk about how we don't know all the facts, but still proclaim Zimmerman guilty. In a real court of law it's referred to as "reasonable doubt." Even then, a lawyer can still fall back on motive, which they also couldn't prove.

 

[troubador]

[SIZE=-1]''Course of conduct'' means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short.
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You didn't cite anything that used the phrase "course of conduct".

 

[troubador]

[SIZE=-1] malicious intent could be argued via the "these assholes, they always get away" comment.
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Not likely since Zimmerman was found to have acted in self defense in light of this evidence. There's nothing in that sentence that implies his intent to do injury.

 

[Little Wing]

Stalking can also consist of ?harassment? rather than ?following?
?Harassment? is defined as a ?course of conduct directed at a specific person which causes substantial emotional distress to that person and serves no legitimate purpose.?

legitimate purpose isn't following someone after you concoct a reason. zimmerman lied when he said trayvon appeared on drugs ad said that there's something wrong with him. i know plenty of people that smoke weed & they don't stagger around or act wasted. you'd never know it till you saw the reds of their eyes. there are many blatant discrepancies on numerous audio tapes...

 

[Little Wing]

Not likely since Zimmerman was found to have acted in self defense in light of this evidence. There's nothing in that sentence that implies his intent to do injury.

no, but there is in the statement of a witness heard on 911 tape saying, "he warned me he'd shoot him." whoever made the anonymous call... lets hope they grow a set.

 

[Little Wing]

there's no evidence i took a shit this morning but i assure you, i did.

anyone buying zimmerman's story 100 percent is willfully turning a blind eye to his content of character and what evidence there is that he's lied.

 

[troubador]

no

Glad that's settled.

 

[troubador]

This case has made me truly grateful in the principle of innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Little Wing]

Glad that's settled.

settled like if a guy asks his wife if shes screwing his best friend and she says no but i'm screwing your brothers.

 

[troubador]

settled like if a guy asks his wife if shes screwing his best friend and she says no but i'm screwing your brothers.

Not malicious=not stalking.

Also, I think it's obvious your charge of stalking is ridiculous and I'm just indulging you. There's no evidence Zimmerman even engaged Martin much less stalk him.

 

[Little Wing]

well i hope the next person he doesn't maliciously stalk in the night is a bit more of a formidable opponent than a gangly teen or a 6 year old little girl.

 

[troubador]

well i hope the next person he doesn't maliciously stalk in the night is a bit more of a formidable opponent than a gangly teen or a 6 year old little girl.

 

[Little Wing]

want me to hold you and calm your fears?

 

[troubador]

Zimmerman passed lie detector test

 

[troubador]

want me to hold you and calm your fears?