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The Very Best Form of Socialism?: The Pro-Slavery Roots of the Modern Left

Things like child labor have nothing to do with our need for unions now. There's always going to be some group on the front lines fighting for a cause but at some point they may not be needed. I don't know anyone in an abolitionist group. Without abolitionists have we reverted back to slavery, no.

We are in economic slavery.
 
says whom?

says economists, historians and empirical data collected across hundreds of country's in the world it's called using comparative economics.
 
Yes, you are that daft.

everything he knows about the world and economics is from Ron Paul videos on youtube, he doesn't read it's too hard and time consuming.
 
feeding the poor isn't killing this country, catering to the 1% is.

Besides the obvious moral obligation this so clearly articulates, there is overwhelming evidence to support why this is so very correct. Well said LW.
 
you made the claim now back it. stop making statements you can't back up with facts.

I have yet to see you ever back anything up with an impartial source. Though I do believe in some conservative ideals, the current conservative party(s) is full of the worst bunch of uncompromising ideologues history has ever seen. When Newt Gingrich even criticized the party in its current form and leadership, you know things are royally fucked up. It's to the point now that the representation provided by both parties of their constituents is so poor and off base with what people are actually wanting, its amazing we can even align with anyone and say we support them. Dark days are ahead for America and don't think Ted Cruz is going to walk in and save us, lol!!!!
 
I live on the gulf coast and the fishing here is better than ever! I caught several 30lbs snapper this year. And the beaches are beautiful

As do I. LW don't play like you are in the oil and gas industry; you're not and have no clue how it works at all. Just like so many here that think oil and gas magically appears at the gas station or through that natural gas line going to their house. If you only had the slightest clue how NOT EASY it is to get it out of the ground, transport and refine it, then distribute it you would quit your bitching and thank the many that work an insane amount of hours to make it a reality. This, almost more than anything, pisses me off to no end. I don't know shit about the solar industry, you don't hear me telling people how it is do you? Learn your limits or don't say anything at all, it makes you look ignorant as fuck. I respect a lot of what you say LW but when it comes to O&G, just sit those posts out.
 
Research: Gulf Shrimp Widely Contaminated With Carcinogens

Taken together, these findings demonstrate that the FDA's conclusion that there are no significant risks to Gulf populations from oil spill?related contaminants in seafood are incorrect, and reckless when it comes to the health of the most vulnerable populations.
With reports now surfacing in mainstream media outlets on the appearance of eyeless shrimp and mutant fish, this latest finding probably only scratches the surface of a health problem in the Gulf titanic in proportions.

Voices From the Gulf: ''Do Not Eat Our Food''| Dave Hodges - The Common Sense Show

If any group would have a motive to lie and misrepresent the safety of the food supply in the Gulf, it would be the very people who make their living from fishing the waters. Yet, even these people are stating in no uncertain terms that there are very serious dangers associated with ingesting the Gulf's food supply. For example, Kathy Birren, owner of (Florida's) Hernando Beach Seafood, told a gathering of concerned Gulf residents that the shrimp fisherman have every financial reason to declare the seafood of the Gulf to be safe... Birrren further proclaimed that ''fishermen do not want to lose our credibility or deliver contaminated seafood to market and make people sick.'' Chris Bryant, a Gulf commercial fisherman stated that ''if a commercial fisherman who makes his living off of those products doesn't want to deliver them to the public, the public needs to know why.''





or informed. i'm not eating anything that comes from the gulf coast. :coffee:
 
Let's say i owned a little small fishing pond on my farm. My neighbor Bubba Hotep comes and dumps a barrel of oil in it. Are my mutant eyeless fish safe to eat?
 
my wife went out afterwards and dumped a barrel of dawn detergent in there so I guess i can sell them to the public now. :coffee:
 
anyone think oil companies honestly report all leaks and spills? yeaaaa right

SkyTruth: Unreported Leak / Discharge from Oil Platform Off Louisiana Coast - May 7, 2011

Why is this interesting? Well, it makes us wonder: how many other leaks and spills are simply going unreported in the Gulf? If 2 out of 5 Gulf Monitoring Consortium actions discovered unreported spills, it raises the possibility that this could be a very large problem. Maybe the spills weren't reported simply because no personnel from the responsible company were on site to notice a problem. But that's troubling because the vast majority of the 3,600 or so actively producing oil and gas platforms and other structures in the Gulf aren't occupied. What you can't see, you can't report. Which means that we really don't have any idea how much pollution is caused by day-to-day offshore oil and gas operations.
 
As do I. LW don't play like you are in the oil and gas industry; you're not and have no clue how it works at all. Just like so many here that think oil and gas magically appears at the gas station or through that natural gas line going to their house. If you only had the slightest clue how NOT EASY it is to get it out of the ground, transport and refine it, then distribute it you would quit your bitching and thank the many that work an insane amount of hours to make it a reality. This, almost more than anything, pisses me off to no end. I don't know shit about the solar industry, you don't hear me telling people how it is do you? Learn your limits or don't say anything at all, it makes you look ignorant as fuck. I respect a lot of what you say LW but when it comes to O&G, just sit those posts out.

i've posted stuff here before about oil refineries so yes i know it's labor intensive. i also know thirst for it is ruining the planet. our gluttony for it is obscene.
 
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let's all take a moment of silence and appreciate the oil industry for all it does to give up this beautiful plastic

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what would we ever do without oil? pray we never need to find out.
 
Posting articles and knowing the industry are mutually exclusive. No industry is perfect, we can find dirt on anyone's profession of choice. You just are incapable of being wrong at times...
 
people who are scathingly critical about oil companies often do differentiate between the companies and the workers when they say thing like the oil companies have no conscience. i don't see how anyone can look at fracking and mutated, cancerous shrimp and not think things have gone a bit mad. somewhere along the line more needs to be considered than consume consume consume and all those dollar signs.
 
people who are scathingly critical about oil companies often do differentiate between the companies and the workers when they say thing like the oil companies have no conscience. i don't see how anyone can look at fracking and mutated, cancerous shrimp and not think things have gone a bit mad. somewhere along the line more needs to be considered than consume consume consume and all those dollar signs.

Here is the one thing that is often forgot amongst the criticism: if you stop producing oil, you have no healthcare industy, many building materials for the houses/apartments/condos we live in, nothing plastic AT ALL... the list goes on. There is no simple fix and renewables can't fill in the gap nor can the power grid handle a nation of electric vehicles. It's a major catch 22. And remember, we do make good money but many of us work our ass off to earn it (I'm lucky in that I don't have to as much as many of my employees but they sure EARN their paycheck).
 
let's all take a moment of silence and appreciate the oil industry for all it does to give up this beautiful plastic
what would we ever do without oil? pray we never need to find out.

We already know what life would be like without oil.
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you made the claim now back it. stop making statements you can't back up with facts.

Like I said, read your history.
 
we can live without oil. the fact we are here to begin with proves that. i'd love to go live someplace wild in a yurt... viva las veg.... i mean mongolia.
 
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