Half of fast food workers need public aid

[LAM]

Lam,
The only adults that receive any benefits from the government are *NOT* on disability or are elderly.


Single people that are not on disability or elderly can apply for section 8 housing vouchers under a 'family' classification.
Same with SNAP.

A household made up of 1 adult that is not on disability or elderly can apply for SNAP.

can apply doesn't mean they are going to get those benefits not with state governments being tapped out and reductions coming at the Federal level. you can apply to MIT with an 700 SAT score but your not going to get accepted either.

I know people in LMI households in Vegas that were denied benefits so I know first hand that it does happen. and if you look at the qualifications you'll see that most people that receive vouchers (73%) are the working poor with incomes that are less then 30% of the median and the rest are about 50% of the median for there area.

 

[bmw]

once the children are adults there are no more benefits for the parents, what about that don't you people get. the only adults that receive any benefits from the government are on disability or are elderly. that's the way the system works, it's written into the laws and is clearly written and stated on all of the applications on the respective websites and if you've ever known anyone that receives these benefits they would tell you the same.

what benefits, exactly? My brother is 48, and never had any kids. He receives benefits. WTF?

 

[LAM]

what benefits, exactly? My brother is 48, and never had any kids. He receives benefits. WTF?

what kind of benefits does he receive?

 

[bmw]

what kind of benefits does he receive?

I asked you that same question, first.

Wat kind of benefits do non elderly, non disabled people with no kids, not receive?

Because I have a non disabled, non elderly, non working brother with no kids that gets a little bit of money (not much) from the gov't to help him stay alive. He must have slipped through the cracks, huh? Or else you're wrong. But according to LW and apparently others, that's not possible!

I'm probably lying then. Yeah, that must be it.

This thread needs moar trannies.

 

[LAM]

I asked you that same question, first.

Wat kind of benefits do non elderly, non disabled people with no kids, not receive?

Because I have a non disabled, non elderly, non working brother with no kids that gets a little bit of money (not much) from the gov't to help him stay alive. He must have slipped through the cracks, huh? Or else you're wrong. But according to LW and apparently others, that's not possible!

I'm probably lying then. Yeah, that must be it.

This thread needs moar trannies.

there are no programs that are specifically designed for able bodied people people. I could only guess in that he's receiving some sort of disability payments or most likely he's considered an extremely low income household which means his income is less than 30% of the median in his area. and if that is the case there are very few single males that receive benefits that are not disabled or elderly.

the social safety net in the US is one of the lowest as a percentage of GDP at only 3%, peanuts compared to corporate welfare and subsidy which is closer to 30% or about 1trillion a year.

 

[bmw]

there are no programs that are specifically designed for able bodied people people. I could only guess in that he's receiving some sort of disability payments or most likely he's considered an extremely low income household which means his income is less than 30% of the median in his area. and if that is the case there are very few single males that receive benefits that are not disabled or elderly.

the social safety net in the US is one of the lowest as a percentage of GDP at only 3%, peanuts compared to corporate welfare and subsidy which is closer to 30% or about 1trillion a year.

once again...he's not disabled and not receiving disability payments. He's definitely considered extremely low income. So now you've gone from saying it doesn't happen, to he's a rare case? Maybe he is. I hope so.

Bowden was right in his last post. When it comes to the gov't, "can apply" pretty much does mean "will receive" the benefits as long as they do qualify. It's hard to tell someone they are entitled, then not give them the entitlement you promised them.

So what benefits was it again that the people without kids do not receive?

Do you work for the gov't? SNAP? HUD? Just curious.

 

[LAM]

once again...he's not disabled and not receiving disability payments. He's definitely considered extremely low income. So now you've gone from saying it doesn't happen, to he's a rare case? Maybe he is. I hope so.

Bowden was right in his last post. When it comes to the gov't, "can apply" pretty much does mean "will receive" the benefits as long as they do qualify. It's hard to tell someone they are entitled, then not give them the entitlement you promised them.

So what benefits was it again that the people without kids do not receive?

Do you work for the gov't? SNAP? HUD? Just curious.

no I do not work for the government but have had to do plenty of research on this subject from friends here in Vegas that are not so handy at finding information. this place is like single, unwed mother central and the high school graduation rate here is only 50%. the shit is crazy!

the social safety net is historically proven to do far more good then harm but the US spends the least on it and is the most unequal country in the OECD and growing worse every day. more people will know what real bad times are after the next recession, it will make 2008 look like a picnic.

 

[Little Wing]

I asked you that same question, first.

Wat kind of benefits do non elderly, non disabled people with no kids, not receive?

Because I have a non disabled, non elderly, non working brother with no kids that gets a little bit of money (not much) from the gov't to help him stay alive. He must have slipped through the cracks, huh? Or else you're wrong. But according to LW and apparently others, that's not possible!

I'm probably lying then. Yeah, that must be it.

This thread needs moar trannies.

i don't see how according to me this is not possible. i've never said the mcdonalds and walmart low wage workers have to have kids to get help. maybe usa gives low wage workers assistance to avoid the shame and global ridicule of Americans starving in our streets of gold and showing the world how shitty our economy really is here. keeping up appearances so to speak.

 

[LAM]

i don't see how according to me this is not possible. i've never said the mcdonalds and walmart low wage workers have to have kids to get help. maybe usa gives low wage workers assistance to avoid the shame and global ridicule of Americans starving in our streets of gold and showing the world how shitty our economy really is here. keeping up appearances so to speak.

it's what happens when a country has no national collective bargaining program for wages there is nobody in the US that fights for labor.

Low Wages in the OECD


Low-wage Lessons - CEPR
John Schmitt
January 2012
http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/low-wage-2012-01.pdf

 

[LAM]

and here it shows that US workers are the least protected in the OECD

Employment policies and data - Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development

 

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[charley]

 

[bmw]

the social safety net is historically proven to do far more good then harm but the US spends the least on it and is the most unequal country in the OECD and growing worse every day. more people will know what real bad times are after the next recession, it will make 2008 look like a picnic.

Oh I completely agree with you here. It would seem (history tells us) that nothing could prevent it (the double dip recession). However, we live in such different times now. Everything can be interfered with, instantly too. I'm sitting here telling myself, "it has to happen" but there's this little piece of doubt in my mind due to the powerful forces that pull the strings. It seems as if economies are able to be manipulated like puppets, like we are all in some story someone is telling and they can control what happens while we have little to no choice.

So, when do you think it's coming? I'd say around 2016. You?

 

[bmw]

i don't see how according to me this is not possible. i've never said the mcdonalds and walmart low wage workers have to have kids to get help. maybe usa gives low wage workers assistance to avoid the shame and global ridicule of Americans starving in our streets of gold and showing the world how shitty our economy really is here. keeping up appearances so to speak.

LOL! no, I meant that according to you, LAM being wrong (esp. concerning these matters) isn't possible. Just jabbing at ya. No harm intended.

 

[bmw]

no I do not work for the government but have had to do plenty of research on this subject from friends here in Vegas that are not so handy at finding information. this place is like single, unwed mother central and the high school graduation rate here is only 50%. the shit is crazy!

the social safety net is historically proven to do far more good then harm but the US spends the least on it and is the most unequal country in the OECD and growing worse every day. more people will know what real bad times are after the next recession, it will make 2008 look like a picnic.

we need to hit the reset button...again. Like we did back in the 30's...the "banking holiday"? I wonder what would have happened if we never would have bailed out those "too big to fail" corporations? Would they have survived? Been absorbed by cash rich competitors? I'm sure the world wouldn't have ended. Now BofA has billion dollar profits every quarter. Yeah, they really needed our help. Fucking bullshit.

 

[Little Wing]

LOL! no, I meant that according to you, LAM being wrong (esp. concerning these matters) isn't possible. Just jabbing at ya. No harm intended.

LAM is never wrong. i kinda suspect he's that fella Jesus everyone talks about.

 

[LAM]

Oh I completely agree with you here. It would seem (history tells us) that nothing could prevent it (the double dip recession). However, we live in such different times now. Everything can be interfered with, instantly too. I'm sitting here telling myself, "it has to happen" but there's this little piece of doubt in my mind due to the powerful forces that pull the strings. It seems as if economies are able to be manipulated like puppets, like we are all in some story someone is telling and they can control what happens while we have little to no choice.

So, when do you think it's coming? I'd say around 2016. You?

hard to say since we are in the midst of this "balance sheet" recession here in the US with dismal real GDP growth, a falling labor participation rate and real wages. there is simply nothing that can re-start the engines of real economic growth in the US. the economy lucked up with some real positive growth during the 90's and the tech sector/Internet boom but there is nothing like that coming in the future.

 

[bmw]

hard to say since we are in the midst of this "balance sheet" recession here in the US with dismal real GDP growth, a falling labor participation rate and real wages. there is simply nothing that can re-start the engines of real economic growth in the US. the economy lucked up with some real positive growth during the 90's and the tech sector/Internet boom but there is nothing like that coming in the future.

So when's the bottom?

How much longer can we do this?

no educated guess, or even wild guess?

 

[LAM]

hard to say with so much shit going on in different parts of the world but specifically with the continued growth of the Asian tigers. right now it appears that the house of card which is the US economy will survive as long as they can continue to purchase our debt. in the US the stock and bond markets would be the largest over-valued assets right now, QE out of the FED may have actually helped to deflate them vs having an actual bubble burst. there's just so much money printing going on by central banks who knows that the real value of anything is today.

I don't get myself worked up about any of this crap anymore, I just sit back and watch it like a bad economic soap opera.

 

[Swiper]

hard to say with so much shit going on in different parts of the world but specifically with the continued growth of the Asian tigers. right now it appears that the house of card which is the US economy will survive as long as they can continue to purchase our debt. in the US the stock and bond markets would be the largest over-valued assets right now, QE out of the FED may have actually helped to deflate them vs having an actual bubble burst. there's just so much money printing going on by central banks who knows that the real value of anything is today.

I don't get myself worked up about any of this crap anymore, I just sit back and watch it like a bad economic soap opera.

And Obama appoints Janet yellen another Keynesian whose going keep printing money as the Obama economic plan continues on..... lol

 

[perarded123]

think about most of these individuals are making 250 working fulltime a week, that is clearly not enough if you have kids, pay full rent, pay for your own benefits and not including car costs among other things.

 

[LAM]

And Obama appoints Janet yellen another Keynesian whose going keep printing money as the Obama economic plan continues on..... lol

the money supply is dictated by the FED who get's it's orders from the BIS. the US executive branch has ZERO POWER over the monetary authority. doesn't matter who the POTUS appoints the central banking system is going to do what's best for itself. the money printing started in the 80's under Volcker you know when the FED adopted the monetary theory of Milton Friedman, your about 40 years behind.

let me guess none of your youtube videos told you that, maybe try actually reading a book or two.

 

[LAM]

And Obama appoints Janet yellen another Keynesian whose going keep printing money as the Obama economic plan continues on..... lol

it helps if one actually reads economic reports to underhand economics in the real world. it's only 32 pages I'm sure you can knock it out in a month or so..LOL

Central Banks in Balance Sheet Recessions: A Search for Correct Response

Richard C. Koo
Chief Economist
Nomura Research Institute
March 31, 2013

http://snbchf.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Koo-Ineffectiveness-Monetary-Expansion.pdf

 

[Swiper]

the money supply is dictated by the FED who get's it's orders from the BIS. the US executive branch has ZERO POWER over the monetary authority. doesn't matter who the POTUS appoints the central banking system is going to do what's best for itself. the money printing started in the 80's under Volcker you know when the FED adopted the monetary theory of Milton Friedman, your about 40 years behind.

let me guess none of your youtube videos told you that, maybe try actually reading a book or two.

sure lam, keep thinking that.

Obama economic plan = Print more money.

 

[LAM]

sure lam, keep thinking that.

Obama economic plan = Print more money.

so what's it like being an actual retard? nothing like not reading the most heavy cited economic report out today in the global financial community.

your so stupid you think you understand economics, it's hysterical. it's obvious that you didn't read the paper as you couldn't understand it, not with your 60 I.Q and all.

 

[Swiper]

so what's it like being an actual retard? nothing like not reading the most heavy cited economic report out today in the global financial community.

your so stupid you think you understand economics, it's hysterical. it's obvious that you didn't read the paper as you couldn't understand it, not with your 60 I.Q and all.

lol lam getting mad. what's the problem you don't like obamas economic plan of printing money? lol.

 

[LAM]

lol lam getting mad. what's the problem you don't like obamas economic plan of printing money? lol.

what it shows is that historically central banks inject massive amounts of liquidity into the financial sector after a major asset bubble burst and that is has nothing at all to do with the leader of any country.

my god you are one fucking stupid man, you don't understand anything. it would be funny if it wasn't so freaking sad, I pity you.

 

[Swiper]

what it shows is that historically central banks inject massive amounts of liquidity into the financial sector after a major asset bubble burst and that is has nothing at all to do with the leader of any country.

my god you are one fucking stupid man, you don't understand anything. it would be funny if it wasn't so freaking sad, I pity you.

obama appoints Janet who wants to print even more money than Ben and wants more inflation. that should tell you something.

 

[LAM]

obama appoints Janet who wants to print even more money than Ben and wants more inflation. that should tell you something.

your only about 8 months behind on this one.

The Federal Reserve's Explicit Goal: Devalue The Dollar 33% - Forbes



http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/o...serves-explicit-goal-devalue-dollar-33-a.html