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Good luck littlefrank, let us know how it works for you.

ha! so I was right.

I fail to see much of a difference between the WBB routine and the ironmag routine.

Do one of Dr. Pain's 25 set workouts, the overtraining will cause them to shrink.

Actually the only ones that suck are the ones that newbies make who don't know what they are doing. If you look at the progress people are making in their journals then it's hard to argue they suck. I would NEVER recommend 20+ sets to any natural trainer, that is flat out ridiculous IMO. I...

It's okay for WBB to have lots of different GOALS which require different training methods. It's also OK here.

I think it would work well on people who think they take themselves to the limits but really are using about 90% of their capabilities. If you always train to the absolute limits then I can't see it being effective. I think it would work on me for legs because I like others sometimes think I am...

Maybe it could be effective if done periodically, but doing a routine like that for more than 1 week is a sure way to put yourself into overtraining. It looks like something straight out of Flex.

25 sets! Any natty who does this is crazy.

Ok, I was just looking at the tri work. I agree it seems like a lot of volume but I think if it's only done for 3 weeks it won't cause any overtraining. Over the long haul it may be different though.

Even if it was on the same day it's only 6 sets, I don't consider that to be high volume.

Don't you have to decrease volume over the years because there is more of you to recover?

My right arm has always been bigger then my left. From the day I started lifting until now that hasn't changed. I think it's something that almost all bodybuilders have and not a whole lot can be done to correct it.

If you are having trouble doing any of them at all that 50 rep technique may be overdoing it. You could be stuck doing chins or pull ups for a half hour or more until you hit fifty. I'd start at 25 or 30 and work your way up to 50 as you get stronger.

Thanks GO, I do appreciate it :thumb: I'm gonna save this one for when I hit a serious plateau. I'm steadily adding size and strength right now using the conventional stuff but I know I'm gonna hit the wall eventually. When I do I'm gonna give this test drive and see how it goes. Thanks again...

Damn GO, you're a freak! Those are some kick ass numbers:thumb: People in the gym must have been staring at you, (in admiration of course.)

Maybe you should post your entire routine so we can get an idea of what you're doing

Here is a simple chest routine that should work well- flat BP- 3 sets of 6-8 reps incline db press- same flat flyes(optional)- 2 sets of 8 No need to get too complicated. Keep it simple, eat lots, and try to add more weight each week.

hey prince, maybe you should change the post count to 50 to view pics

What does your current chest routine look like?