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Define long and hard please (without reference to anyone's genitals!) :-) I am considering extending my EQ Cycle since it was such a letdown, and I am going to increase the calories as LAM recommended. is 20 weeks 600mg EQ too much??? I am @ week 15 and last shot next Monday.

What is the correct proportion for EQ/Test?? Last cycle I ran 600 Eq/ 250 sustanon and I only put on 10 lbs after 14 weeks. I am thinking of next one 500 test cyp, 500 EQ, what do you think? I ran first cycle 10 weeks 500 sustanon 400 deca and shitty diet, put on 15 lbs easily.... ¿?

That's a little extremist Mudge. If what you are looking for is a milder steroid, with great results for a newbie and basically zero side effects, then DECA "blows tren anywhere". My first cycle was deca +test, and it was very satisfied with the gains and lack of side effects, except for...

what needle size are you using?? chances are you are not injecting deep enough. at the very least 1" in the glute, make sure you go all the way in. But for most people 1.5" even better. A while ago I freaked out thinking I was getting an abcess, but I just wasn't injecting deep enough.

I am glad that now you agree 250/week is too little. from my own experience, I got much better results stacking the sustanon with 400 deca for 10 weeks than I did with 600 EQ for 14 weeks... But why even bother to stack with something else? Just get more sustanon, that's all you need.

How many times have you heard "I will only do this one cycle"... lol :blah: I even said that myself once.

Darryl, you will need at least 400 mg/week of deca, for 10-12 weeks, and we STRONGLY SUGGEST adding some test to the cycle, 250-500 mg. good luck now. because deca will shut you down after only 1 injection... so if you don't keek shooting now or run a PCT you will actually be going BACKWARDS.

T.O.M., I've read both sides of the issue. If your goal is far from where you are now, then it is ok to do a couple of bulking cycles, then cut, then couple of bulkers again and so on... Not bulk for 100 lbs and then cut. I personally cut on the last week of cycle and before PCT starts...

My weight is 14 stones, 2 rocks and 4 pebbles...

Pirate, I see where you are coming from and this is what I do myself. I have a very fast metabolist, so just by cutting back calories a couple of weeks I get ripped to shreads, and by having the gear in my system I avoid LBM loss as much as possible. I guess it is different for people that...

Repoj, I just read your post more carefully aaaand... Winny will go through your liver whether you inject it or not, SAME EFFECT. It is a 17AA, does not matter how it get into your blood let it be injected intramuscularly or absorbed through the GI tract.

Repoj, last I remember was reading that your body weight was in the 200's... IMHO you need at least 500 test, and no you WILL NOT get "Massive" gains even if you tried, it is not that easy and much less on 500 mg/week of test. 250/week is barely enough for HRT, specially on a bigger frame...

Garo... Shoot sustanon 250 2xweek, M,F for 10 weeks. Winny, drink it, 1 amp ED for 3 weeks at least, not longer than 5 weeks. Repoj.. You have too much body weight to be using only 250mg sustanon/week. at least shoot 500.

I've never gotten blood on a glute, and only once on a delt...

You guys make Tren soooo tempting! please stop!!! LOL But I am just paranoid about losing hair, even though I do not have MPB and I am 30 years now... but JUST IN CASE!

even if you suck up bubbles there is no need to throw away the gear man.... just let it sit for a while in the syringe, all the little bubbles will turn into 1 big one and you can just push it out.

nombie, at 18 years old chances are you have more testosterone in your system than many of us who are currently ON-CYCLE. you do NOT need gear. Count calories and spread the food through the day, lift hard and you will grow without a problem.

I was curious about the "chemical castration", did a search and ran in to "EUNUCH.ORG" Oh-my-god... these people are sick, 2 minutes browsing through the webpage and I thought I was reading silence of the lambs... so many wackos in this world.

MUDGE, on some other thread I read you commented that DECA inhibits some other hormone production besides test... what is it?? I read that DECA is a favorite steroid for long-term treatment of many wasting diseases... but never read about the other hormonal effects. Can you comment on this...

Deeno, I am still prone to acne at 30 years old, and Testosterone makes me breakout a lot, although never as NASTY and REPULSIVE as some guys I've seen in the gym... That is why I'd rather shoot DECA 600 mg, and only 200-250 of test to replace your natural test and then some... you can even run...