i saw on a report on THE SCORE channel, they said after the workout to eat liquid protein such as whey shake, cause hard protein will sit on your gut from 2 to 4 hours. is this right? i should be drinking a whey protein shake instead of eating chicken after my workout?
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Chest Rockwell
You really want to deliver the nutrients to your muscles as soon
as possible after an intense workout. Try to have your shake within a half hour after your workouts.
A whey shake with a 2 to 1 simple carb to protein ratio works best for me.
The insulin spike that you get from the simple carbs will deliver the protein to your muscles for optimal recovery and restore the glyc in your muscles.
I know some people who chose to skip the insulin spike when cutting because the large amount of insulin that is released will stop fat burning dead in it's tracks.
You have to experiment and see what works best for you.
Do you want optimal recovery?(insulin spike)
or
Do you want to keep the fat burning by skipping the spike?
When cutting, I've gotten the best results by having one huge insulin spike during the day, which is post workout.
The insulin spike may stop fat burning but it also stops the body from eating away at all your hard earned muscle(cortisol).
Desicions, Descisions.
Post workout nutrition can be a real bitch when you're cutting.
But if you're trying to put on mass then spike away after your workouts and then eat a solid meal 1 to 2 hours after your shake
as possible after an intense workout. Try to have your shake within a half hour after your workouts.
A whey shake with a 2 to 1 simple carb to protein ratio works best for me.
The insulin spike that you get from the simple carbs will deliver the protein to your muscles for optimal recovery and restore the glyc in your muscles.
I know some people who chose to skip the insulin spike when cutting because the large amount of insulin that is released will stop fat burning dead in it's tracks.
You have to experiment and see what works best for you.
Do you want optimal recovery?(insulin spike)
or
Do you want to keep the fat burning by skipping the spike?
When cutting, I've gotten the best results by having one huge insulin spike during the day, which is post workout.
The insulin spike may stop fat burning but it also stops the body from eating away at all your hard earned muscle(cortisol).
Desicions, Descisions.
Post workout nutrition can be a real bitch when you're cutting.
But if you're trying to put on mass then spike away after your workouts and then eat a solid meal 1 to 2 hours after your shake
w8lifter
Elite Member
Great post
Okay Chesty...where ya from and what's your handle?
LOL...your writing is awfully familiar
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Chest Rockwell
Originally posted by w8lifter
Great post
Okay Chesty...where ya from and what's your handle?
You called me Chesty.
That name makes me sound like a woman with big bazookas.
I kinda like the name though.
Who do I remind you of?
Maybe we know each other from a past life time.
I know in my past life I was a woman's
bicycle seat.
Where you a bicyclists by any chance?
All I know is that I like the info on this site
and I like the members.
By the way
Awesome back shot in you avatar.
Lookin Good
Ripped as hell!
w8lifter
Elite Member
Originally posted by Chest Rockwell
You called me Chesty.
That name makes me sound like a woman with big bazookas.
I kinda like the name though.
Who do I remind you of?
Maybe we know each other from a past life time.
I know in my past life I was a woman's
bicycle seat.
Where you a bicyclists by any chance?
All I know is that I like the info on this site
and I like the members.
By the way
Awesome back shot in you avatar.
Lookin Good
Ripped as hell!
lmfao...you're too funny.....you may be on to something w/ the bike seat Chesty
Come on folks help the guy out. I'd say 15-45 minutes, but thats obviously not very specific. Solid foods I think start out at 45 minutes to a couple hours, depending on how hard it is to break down the food and whatever else.
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Chest Rockwell
Whey protein can be absorbed within ten minutes of ingesting it.
After a workout your muscles are fiending for nutrients.
When whey is combined with a sugary drink or dextrose the absorbtion
of the nurtrients into your muscles will occur instantly post workout.
This is why you want to have a solid meal 1 to 2 hours after your
shake. You have to make sure to feed your body again
with some solid foods to promote optimal recovery and growth.
I am assuming that you are trying to pack on some mass.
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Chest Rockwell
It depends on what kind of diet you are on and when you
are drinking this shake.
Like I said whey is absorbed really quickly.
If you want to slow down digestion,
the casein from the milk
will definitely slow down the digestion of the whey.
But if you really want the full benefits of the whey
than you should use regular milk or full fat milk.
In addition to the casein the fat will also slow down
the digestion process to ensure that the proteins
will not go to waste. Fat takes the longest time
to digest out of all the macronutrients.
But milk is not the best choice to mix your whey with
after a workout.
You want to replenish and feed your body as quickly as
possible and milk will only slow down digestion.
If you're tryin to gain mass than milk would be a good
choice to mix with your whey except for post workout.
If you are cutting than I would use peanut butter of flax(the best choice)
at all times except for post workout.
I try to avoid dairy products as much as I can
towards the end of my cuts.
what should i mix my whey protein after my workout with? i am training for mass
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Chest Rockwell
Gatorade is always good.
You can buy it in the liquid form
or you can buy the crystals.
One seving has 15 grams of sugar.
Remeber you want to have around a 2 to 1
simple carb to protein ratio.
Mix that shit up and drink away.
I weigh around 210 lbs right now.
I like to get around 60 to 70 grams of
sugar after my workouts.
I would experiment and see what amounts
work best for you.
You may need a little more or a little
less depending on your size and the
intensity of your workouts.
i use creatine 45 mins before the workout and as soon as i finish. i take it with grape juice. does taking creatine with grape juice slow down my whey shake absorption that i take 20 mins later?
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Chest Rockwell
Can you give me some nutrional info on the grape juice?
I have never had grape juice before.
If it is all sugar, no fiber and no fat then
it would be a great choice for your post workout shake.
It's gonna enable the protein and creatine to shoot into
your muscle like a bullet
w8lifter
Elite Member
Unsweetened grape juice:
Amount Per 1 cup
Calories 154.33
Calories from Fat 1.82
Total Fat 0.202g 0%
Total Carbohydrate 37.85g 13%
Dietary Fiber 0.253g 1%
Protein 1.42g
Sweetened Grape Juice:
Amount Per 1 cup
Calories 127.5
Calories from Fat 2.03
Total Fat 0.225g 0%
Total Carbohydrate 31.88g 11%
Dietary Fiber 0.25g 1%
Protein 0.475g
You've really never had grape juice before?!
Amount Per 1 cup
Calories 154.33
Calories from Fat 1.82
Total Fat 0.202g 0%
Total Carbohydrate 37.85g 13%
Dietary Fiber 0.253g 1%
Protein 1.42g
Sweetened Grape Juice:
Amount Per 1 cup
Calories 127.5
Calories from Fat 2.03
Total Fat 0.225g 0%
Total Carbohydrate 31.88g 11%
Dietary Fiber 0.25g 1%
Protein 0.475g
You've really never had grape juice before?!
How is the unsweetened higher in carbs?
Here's what the label says on my 10 oz. bottle of Welches 100% grape juice.
Calories 210
Fat 0g
Sodium 25mg
Tot. carbs 53g
Sugars 52g
Protein 0g
Here's what the label says on my 10 oz. bottle of Welches 100% grape juice.
Calories 210
Fat 0g
Sodium 25mg
Tot. carbs 53g
Sugars 52g
Protein 0g
w8lifter
Elite Member
I don't know...I'm just reporting the news, not making it 
w8lifter
Elite Member
here's another for Welch's No sugar added, 6 oz, frozen, diluted:
40 kcals 10 carbs
Welch's purple & white, 6 oz, frozen, diluted, doesn't say whether it's sweetened or not: 100 kcals, 25 carbs
40 kcals 10 carbs
Welch's purple & white, 6 oz, frozen, diluted, doesn't say whether it's sweetened or not: 100 kcals, 25 carbs
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Chest Rockwell
No w8,
I've really never had grape juice before
because I hate grapes.
Grapes remind me of rooster jewels.
That Welches grape juice(posted by RobNC) looks like a
good choice for post workout spikorama.
I've really never had grape juice before
because I hate grapes.
Grapes remind me of rooster jewels.
That Welches grape juice(posted by RobNC) looks like a
good choice for post workout spikorama.
w8lifter
Elite Member
I love grapes! 
the grape i use is the powdered one,u mix it with water.its high in sugar
if u have a job that u need to be moving around all the time, like a waiter, do u need to be eating more carbs during the day to use as energy?
w8lifter
Elite Member
Not necessarily. If your job is physical in nature and you don't want to cut then you would need to make sure you're taking in enough calories to compensate. Fats can be used for energy as well. If you wanted to post your diet/stats/goals we could help you out
morning= large bowl of cereal , corn flakes with 1% milk.
mid-morning= protein shake, yogurt. nutri-grain bar.
lunch=4 chicken breast or tuna sandwiches (brown bread). and crackers,a sandwich every half an hour.
mid-afternoon= egg whites and orange juice
evening (on training day)= pasta
evening (on off day)= chicken breast or beef
night=protein shake
mid-morning= protein shake, yogurt. nutri-grain bar.
lunch=4 chicken breast or tuna sandwiches (brown bread). and crackers,a sandwich every half an hour.
mid-afternoon= egg whites and orange juice
evening (on training day)= pasta
evening (on off day)= chicken breast or beef
night=protein shake
i should be drinking more orange juice?
If your skinny and having a hard time putting on weight, thats one way. You can easily drink 1000 calories at one sitting.
I get plenty of calories from regular food, heck I have to WATCH my calories I don't drink any OJ. Look at the label and see if it fits into your diet plan.
I get plenty of calories from regular food, heck I have to WATCH my calories I don't drink any OJ. Look at the label and see if it fits into your diet plan.
i am not exacly skinny,anymore. i went a few days of cake eating. although i have shed a few fat pounds, i need to lose some more. are sugars from juices easily burned? what about sugar from ice cream or cake?
Sugars from fruit/cake/etc (simple sugars) need to be burned right away, if they are not, they turn to fat since sugar cannot be stored inside the body except as fat.
Hence, OJ is not good unless your one of those people who just burns everything they eat. With my activity level these days, I do not fit anywhere near that bill, so for me juices are a no-no.
If you know your bodyfat percentage that will I think really help you know where your at, you don't always have to look like a "fat" person to be mostly made up of fat.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4845
Look at "Chest Rockwell's" avatar for example, versus mine, I'm 20.5" bodyfat, he's probably 8/9%ish is my guess, he's where I want to be.
Hence, OJ is not good unless your one of those people who just burns everything they eat. With my activity level these days, I do not fit anywhere near that bill, so for me juices are a no-no.
If you know your bodyfat percentage that will I think really help you know where your at, you don't always have to look like a "fat" person to be mostly made up of fat.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4845
Look at "Chest Rockwell's" avatar for example, versus mine, I'm 20.5" bodyfat, he's probably 8/9%ish is my guess, he's where I want to be.
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