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[bio-chem]

They are not "our soldiers."

The don't represent us.

They are representing Wolfowitz, Hadley, Richard Perle, and that small club called the PNAC.

If you support the troops, you support Shiite Islam and Iran. Period.

that is quite possibly the biggest load of crap i have ever read on this site. you take the cake for crazy, wacked out agenda posting individuals whose only goal is to stir up dust instead of add to the discussion. dare i say we have another john h arch-type on this forum?

no they represent America and Americans. they wear our flag on there uniforms. they place their lives on the line and many of them die serving in the military for the United States. They follow the orders of officers who follow a chain of command that leads to our elected officials. officials, who, for better or worse were chosen by the populace of this country. yes, our soldiers in uniform serving at home and abroad are our representatives.

and so, the question must be asked. you keep saying that any educated student on iraq's history would never have gone into iraq. so since you are the self proclaimed expert on this, our humble little forum. tell us all wise one what the middle east answer is? for of course like a Moses leading the children of Israel, you must have all of the answers. of course since your knowlege is so much greater than our own you are prepared to lead the way into peace and harmony.

just a friendly suggestion stick to the other forum.

 

[vortrit]

Another dumbfuck post. Both busyLivin and myself mentioned it.

Dumb ass.

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It's Big Smoothy's theme song.

 

[Big Smoothy]

no they represent America and Americans. they wear our flag on there uniforms. they place their lives on the line and many of them die serving in the military for the United States. They follow the orders of officers who follow a chain of command that leads to our elected officials. officials, who, for better or worse were chosen by the populace of this country. yes, our soldiers in uniform serving at home and abroad are our representatives.

^ That is the propaganda bio-chem. Propaganda. This is how you get the masses to support the use of military force to achieve economic goals.

Of course they wear the flag. Yes, they follow orders. But who gives the orders: Richard Perle and his cabal of 30 people.

and so, the question must be asked. you keep saying that any educated student on iraq's history would never have gone into iraq.

Some would have realized the difficulties involved. Read what Churchill wrote 80 yeas ago about Iraq. It's a bit chilling. Cheney stated in a video taped interview (go to youtube) about the quagmire that would likely happen.

what the middle east answer is?

Staying out militarily, cutting all aid to Muslim nations and Israel, and only doing commerce (trade). Many of today's problems go back to the CIA coup that overthrew Mohamed Mossadegh in 1953.

 

[Big Smoothy]

they wear our flag on there uniforms. they place their lives on the line and many of them die serving in the military for the United States. They follow the orders of officers who follow a chain of command that leads to our elected officials.

Here is a quote from Herman Goering:

....The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and
exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the
Nuremberg trials

 

[bio-chem]

Here is a quote from Herman Goering:

....The people can always be brought to the bidding of the
leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being
attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and
exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the
Nuremberg trials

i'm sorry was this supposed to prove a point? yet we were attacked. i know i saw it on tv. 3000 people died and two buildings were lost. or is that all of my imagination.

by the way, how does this prove that these soldiers do not represent us?

 

[Little Wing]

do mods get to have tasers?

and btw, just cuz we are all gathered here, i found the pic i wanted to post in the taser thread.

this is for all the people that bitched about how the cops handled that idiot after he made it clear he was there to make trouble

 

[bio-chem]

do mods get to have tasers?

only if they get tasered first. then they get to use one without restraint or oversight.

in this case i vote doms gets to use one anyways

 

[Little Wing]

only if they get tasered first. then they get to use one without restraint or oversight.

in this case i vote doms gets to use one anyways

and if this weren't the United States DOMS would get a machete instead?

 

[tucker01]

umm no.and stop talking shit online its pussy

I kindly reply with a no.

How about you stop laying down the bullshit a foot deep.

 

[DOMS]

I support the insurgents. I support road-side bombs. I support snipers.

uneducated, poorly read, no knowledge of Iraqi history,

they deserve what they get.

 

[DOMS]

and if this weren't the United States DOMS would get a machete instead?

Here's something that I actually wrote in a PM when I was asked to be a mod.

"How about a tazer? I can see it now, BigDyl saying, "Don't taz me, bro!" "

 

[BigDyl]

Staying out militarily, cutting all aid to Muslim nations and Israel, and only doing commerce (trade). Many of today's problems go back to the CIA coup that overthrew Mohamed Mossadegh in 1953.

Most of what you say flys over peoples heads. They have no idea about the 53' coup, and yet they ignore what you say and continue to repeat mainstream mantra's.

 

[bio-chem]

Most of what you say flys over peoples heads. They have no idea about the 53' coup, and yet they ignore what you say and continue to repeat mainstream mantra's.

completly untrue. americans are not dumb sheep that are easily letad by politicians where ever they want us to go. such a cynical view. we are all well aware that we have had an interest in the middle east since oil was discovered there in the 30's. our government had meddled in other countries affairs for a long time now. the record is established and no one denies it. hell not only am i aware of it, i support it. i want our government doing whatever it takes keep america strong. i also have no desire to let israel go it alone. they should be supported by us. they are valuable allies and leaving them isolated while surrounded by every single middle east country who is sworn to their destruction is not ok in my book

 

[goob]

completly untrue. americans are not dumb sheep that are easily letad by politicians where ever they want us to go. such a cynical view. we are all well aware that we have had an interest in the middle east since oil was discovered there in the 30's. our government had meddled in other countries affairs for a long time now. the record is established and no one denies it. hell not only am i aware of it, i support it. i want our government doing whatever it takes keep america strong. i also have no desire to let israel go it alone. they should be supported by us. they are valuable allies and leaving them isolated while surrounded by every single middle east country who is sworn to their destruction is not ok in my book

Israel is 90% of the problem. The blind support shown to them, who are often the aggressors in the region, goes someway towards the hostlity shown towards the US. But, to withdraw support would see them certainly destroyed.

...our government had meddled in other countries affairs for a long time now. the record is established and no one denies it. hell not only am i aware of it, i support it

..and that in a nutshell, is why most countries despise the US. Even allies in Europe hate this.

 

[DOMS]

who are often the aggressors in the region

So completely wrong.

 

[danny81]

I kindly reply with a no.

How about you stop laying down the bullshit a foot deep.

im not u moron.

 

[tucker01]

Sorry I can't understand ebonics.

 

[vortrit]

Sorry I can't understand ebonics.

Ebonics Translator

 

[tucker01]

Ebonics Translator

Awesome thanks

I am a moron.

Seems to work quite well.

 

[bio-chem]

Israel is 90% of the problem. The blind support shown to them, who are often the aggressors in the region, goes someway towards the hostlity shown towards the US. But, to withdraw support would see them certainly destroyed.



..and that in a nutshell, is why most countries despise the US. Even allies in Europe hate this.

i agree that the very state of Israel is a cause of contention in the region. but it does exist and it should continue to exist with our support.

israel has rarely if ever been the agressor. from the hour of the creation of their country they have been under attack. it should be noted that separate states for palestine arabs and jews were originally created in the UN charter, however this was not acceptable to the arabs who attacked thinking to wipe out the israel state and have the land for themselves.

oh yea, they lost and that is why there has been so much problem. the palestinians want land to call theirs as well. sounds reasonable, until you understand it in context that they got gready, started a war, and subsequently lost their land in that war.

Israel are our cousins and we should support them without question.

 

[danny81]

Awesome thanks



Seems to work quite well.

ur a faggit just stfu

 

[bio-chem]

im not u moron.

dont be stupid kid. ian is a smart guy that is easy to get along with. dont screw yourself with foolish childhood pride

 

[danny81]

hes not ez to get along with hes an asshole to me for no fucking reason.

 

[brogers]

Israel is 90% of the problem. The blind support shown to them, who are often the aggressors in the region, goes someway towards the hostlity shown towards the US. But, to withdraw support would see them certainly destroyed.

You're a moron, let me show you why with your own quotes:

Israel is 90% of the problem. The blind support shown to them, who are often the aggressors in the region

to withdraw support would see them certainly destroyed.

So, they are the aggressors, but their neighbors would gladly destroy them if they thought they could? Here's the truth: If Israel laid down all of it's weapons and disbanded the IDF, they would be annihlated. If Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran laid down their weapons and disbanded their militaries, there would be peace. Israel could wipe them out right now if they wanted to. They show ENORMOUS restraint, constantly, just like we do. They've fought off three of their 'unaggressive' neighbors (Jordan, Syria, and Egypt) at the same time with a massively favorable causalty ratio.

Israel is a free country, Israel does not publically whip or execute people who break Sharia law. Israel does not use suicide bombers. Israel does not dress up it's toddlers with suicide vests to take pictures in for propaganda. Israel does not glorify death and martyrdom. Israel does not teach its children in school and on TV that muslims come from pigs and apes. Israel creates, produces, and invents. This is the complete opposite of their neighbors.

Being just isn't always popular, FYI.

 

[DOMS]

So, they are the aggressors, but their neighbors would gladly destroy them if they thought they could? Here's the truth: If Israel laid down all of it's weapons and disbanded the IDF, they would be annihlated. If Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran laid down their weapons and disbanded their militaries, there would be peace. Israel could wipe them out right now if they wanted to. They show ENORMOUS restraint, constantly, just like we do. They've fought off three of their 'unaggressive' neighbors (Jordan, Syria, and Egypt) at the same time with a massively favorable causalty ratio.

Israel is a free country, Israel does not publically whip or execute people who break Sharia law. Israel does not use suicide bombers. Israel does not dress up it's toddlers with suicide vests to take pictures in for propaganda. Israel does not glorify death and martyrdom. Israel does not teach its children in school and on TV that muslims come from pigs and apes. Israel creates, produces, and invents. This is the complete opposite of their neighbors.

Well said (except for the moron bit).

And Israel beat all three of those nations in 6 days. They destroyed 99% of Egypt's aircraft while they were still on the ground.

 

[brogers]

A quick FYI, the 'peaceful' retards in Hamas and Fatah in the West Bank are killing each other on a daily basis. They're all members of a death cult, just with different names.

 

[DOMS]

A quick FYI, the 'peaceful' retards in Hamas and Fatah in the West Bank are killing each other on a daily basis. They're all members of a death cult, just with different names.

Didn't the Palestinians try to do a real cease-fire with the Israelis, but they ended up having to fight Hamas because Hamas wouldn't stop the killing?

 

[bio-chem]

Didn't the Palestinians try to do a real cease-fire with the Israelis, but they ended up having to fight Hamas because Hamas wouldn't stop the killing?

yes

 

[tucker01]

ur a faggit just stfu

I am the fag....

The guy with 2 kids.... Interesting logic there. Guess those ebonics pay off.

You sir are a boy genius. Keep at it.

 

[clemson357]

Al made millions off a movie about a theory promoted as fact. Then he promoted science by saying people can't dissent from my opinion because they aren't in line with the "consensus." He definitely deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.