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Anavar, MHN, O'Primo, Stromba, Proviron
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TGB1987
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Oral only cycles are a bad idea. Many others have told you this already maybe you should listen. No you can't run anavar without coming off. Anavar is a 17AA steroid, it will raise liver enzymes, it will mess up your lipids, and it is expensive.
Thanks but I'm gonna go off the beaten path then check my liver. I didnt know Var was a 17AA, I know Stromba is. That settles it then. 3 weeks of each. Now who has the best deal on Var and O'Primo?
Somehow you are listed as a female on the forum, Vick.
Anyhow, I will suspect you'll be disappointed. Its been said enough times you might be sick of hearing it, but if you shut down your test production and don't replace it, expect disappointing results. Anything you put in your mouth goes through your liver, to resist breakdown it is protected, usually by methylation. This is what puts a strain on your liver. Your cholesterol may take months to recover, the liver perhaps a few weeks.
Do what you will, but oral cycles just don't cut it. Lee Priest talks about very low doses, but he never came out and said all I do is 3 dbol a day, and those kind of statements haven't been made since the 70s and even then- iffy. Those who want to win races don't look to the amateurs to see what they do, they look to those that win, and amateurs are the only ones doing oral only "I'm afraid of needles" cycles. If you are afraid of needles, you should be afraid of what you are doing to your body and afraid of going to jail, because thats how paranoid you are.
Anyhow, I will suspect you'll be disappointed. Its been said enough times you might be sick of hearing it, but if you shut down your test production and don't replace it, expect disappointing results. Anything you put in your mouth goes through your liver, to resist breakdown it is protected, usually by methylation. This is what puts a strain on your liver. Your cholesterol may take months to recover, the liver perhaps a few weeks.
Do what you will, but oral cycles just don't cut it. Lee Priest talks about very low doses, but he never came out and said all I do is 3 dbol a day, and those kind of statements haven't been made since the 70s and even then- iffy. Those who want to win races don't look to the amateurs to see what they do, they look to those that win, and amateurs are the only ones doing oral only "I'm afraid of needles" cycles. If you are afraid of needles, you should be afraid of what you are doing to your body and afraid of going to jail, because thats how paranoid you are.
GMO
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What are your stats?
Age/height/weight/BF%/training history/cycle history????
These are required to give you any advice on AAS...
You should heed the advice given to you by Mudge and TGB. Oral only cycles are not ideal and running three weeks of Anavar will do nothing for you. In addition, oral primo, because it is not methylated, is mostly destroyed by your liver. Doses at 100mg+ ED are required for even mediocre results. IMO it sucks.
BigBird
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Yes to what the previous posters have said. Primo is injected or not taken at all. Var, although less toxic than other 17a/a is still 17a/a nonetheless. If doing a perma-cycle, cruising is done with injectables such as TRT concept - Not orals. And 3 weeks of Var would be a waste - you'd start to see results and then you'd have no more. Research more in order to see what proper recommneded cycles consist of and consider your stats and diet, etc.
Thanks for all the input it's not being forgotten, just some of it I don't want to apply at this time. I'm gonna be the guy that says it was all orals. O Primo is off the list, just what I suspected. Stromba and Proviron are antiestrogens so I don't suspect they will be suppressive and from what I've read from HB1 neither are MHN or Anavar which is noted for use in hepatitis related wasting. I agree by themselves they're not much but I'm gonna say fuck it and stack all 4 for 2 months! 
I already have the Proviron and Stromba,just need the MHN and Anavar.
I already have the Proviron and Stromba,just need the MHN and Anavar.
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LightBearer
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you need some test in there!
My test are the size of kiwis lol The Anavar and MHN are gonna set me back over $600 for 6 weeks worth! Now who to trust with that kind of order?
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BigBird
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You do realize that you really ought to include some actual testosterone in your cycle, right? Enanthate, cypionate, really doesn't matter which one but test no doubt. If you have $600 already invested then make sure it's money well spent and get a couple 10ml vials of test.
LightBearer
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600 what a shame, you could spend a quarter of that on testosterone and make 3x the gains with it
I read that our bodies own testosterone is 3 times stronger than any synthetic so my PCT will be perfect. I also like the idea of staying lean and not fluctuating. I also don't like the idea of pins in the mail. Metal detectors anyone?
D-Lats
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This guy is dense as a brick he's been going on for days about this bs cycle with no regard for anyone's advice. Take all the orals you can take before and after pics so we can all laugh at your stupid money wasting ass when you lose all your gains and need a liver transplant. Why do you keep posting if the answer to your question is the same? Do you think you are going to fund another retard that will go along with you on this stupid fucken idea? Don't be a pussy shoot test or gtfo!
Such an honest post.Uncle Z must be grateful for all your promoting.
D-Lats
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Atleast I listen and don't flood forums with the same shit over and over. Someone asked to see your stats but you ignored that to. That leaves me to believe that you are a poser that wants a quick fix.
Anavar and MHN are more anabolic than any test by mg.
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Keep in mind the rating and mg dose come into play, take Cheque drops, if you took 100mg ED of this it will destroy your liver in no time but if you took 100mg of Winny you would be fine. "
Sustanon 100 & 250 100 100
Testosterone Propionate 100 100
Test 400 100 100
Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN) 281 1304
Anavar(Oxandrolone) 24 322-630
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Keep in mind the rating and mg dose come into play, take Cheque drops, if you took 100mg ED of this it will destroy your liver in no time but if you took 100mg of Winny you would be fine. "
Sustanon 100 & 250 100 100
Testosterone Propionate 100 100
Test 400 100 100
Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN) 281 1304
Anavar(Oxandrolone) 24 322-630
GMO
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Thanks for all the input it's not being forgotten, just some of it I don't want to apply at this time. I'm gonna be the guy that says it was all orals. O Primo is off the list, just what I suspected. Stromba and Proviron are antiestrogens so I don't suspect they will be suppressive and from what I've read from HB1 neither are MHN or Anavar which is noted for use in hepatitis related wasting. I agree by themselves they're not much but I'm gonna say fuck it and stack all 4 for 2 months!
I already have the Proviron and Stromba,just need the MHN and Anavar.
Proviron and Stromba (Winstrol) are not anti-e's, they are anabolic steroids. Winny will shut you down at a meager 10mg dose after one week. You have absolutely no idea of what you are doing, and you are the type of person that gives AAS users a bad name. They'll be interviewing you for the next "Steroids are Bad" campaign after you destroy your liver and endocrine system with your stupid cycle. Then you'll blame it on the steroids rather than your ignorance of proper cycling techniques.
You also have yet to give us your stats, as requested in my last post. that is never a good sign to us.
Exactly!
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TGB1987
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Do you know that winny is one of the most liver toxic steroids? You are unbelievable. You never posted your stats and you are taking no advice from anyone including two mods who have tried to help you. Your cycle is absolutely one of the stupidest ideas I have heard in a while and makes zero sense. You would be better off using just Dianabol and we all know that is not even good without test. You are going to cause harm to yourself and then ask what happened. AAS are no joke and needed to be used properly otherwise serious harm can result. Every AAS steroid you plan to take is suppressive to your HPTA. This means you will shut down your natural test, spend all kinds of money, make little if any gains while on cycle and lose all and maybe more when you come off cycle due you shutting down your natural test. You have no idea what you are doing and we are not going to entertain you any longer with this thread. This is a terrible idea and since you don't want to take any advice or follow the rules ( by rules I mean stating your stats so we know how proceed which wouldn't matter much here anyway) that are stated in the stickies that I am sure you didn't read I am closing this thread. This is just plain stupid
Do you know that winny is one of the most liver toxic steroids? You are unbelievable. You never posted your stats and you are taking no advice from anyone including two mods who have tried to help you. Your cycle is absolutely one of the stupidest ideas I have heard in a while and makes zero sense. You would be better off using just Dianabol and we all know that is not even good without test. You are going to cause harm to yourself and then ask what happened. AAS are no joke and needed to be used properly otherwise serious harm can result. Every AAS steroid you plan to take is suppressive to your HPTA. This means you will shut down your natural test, spend all kinds of money, make little if any gains while on cycle and lose all and maybe more when you come off cycle due you shutting down your natural test. You have no idea what you are doing and we are not going to entertain you any longer with this thread. This is a terrible idea and since you don't want to take any advice or follow the rules ( by rules I mean stating your stats so we know how proceed which wouldn't matter much here anyway) that are stated in the stickies that I am sure you didn't read I am closing this thread. This is just plain stupid
Good job. Agree Vick needs to study more and understand the difference between androgenic and anabolic.
None of those he listed will replace his natural test. Unfortunately some people have to learn the hard way.
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