Andre the giant vs Bruce Lee

[fufu]

I saw two wins by guillotine in a row on UFC 60 actually.

 

[JordanMang]

Didn't see UFC 60. All I saw was the Gracie v Hughes fight.

 

[Goodfella9783]

I don't know where you got that information, but it hasn't much to do with structure or genetics. If you get hit in the jaw or nose correclty it sends a signal to your brain to shut down, and you're out. Period, no genetics, nothing. Good night, good fight. And I'm talking about your average joe. And not about professional fighters. I think your mis-understood. I don't let kids swing at me; I take it to the ground. That way no punch is going to rock me.

A lot of people with larger heads will be able to withstand more impact than others in order to be knocked out. Look at dudes like Cabbage Correira. Huge head, almost impossible to KO him.

 

[JordanMang]

He's a big fat guy. No shit it's hard to knock him out theirs like 4 inches of fat between his skin and jaw.

 

[Goodfella9783]

He's a big fat guy. No shit it's hard to knock him out theirs like 4 inches of fat between his skin and jaw.

Exactly my point. Genetics.

 

[JordanMang]

AKA he's got table top muslce.

 

[tucker01]

I don't know where you got that information, but it hasn't much to do with structure or genetics. If you get hit in the jaw or nose correclty it sends a signal to your brain to shut down, and you're out. Period, no genetics, nothing. Good night, good fight. And I'm talking about your average joe. And not about professional fighters. I think your mis-understood. I don't let kids swing at me; I take it to the ground. That way no punch is going to rock me.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showpost.php?p=1382546&postcount=28

 

[JordanMang]

Hence why I no longer let kids take swings at me.

 

[BigDyl]

Hence why I no longer let kids take swings at me.

You're 16 dude, and you're no fedor.

 

[MCx2]

He's a big fat guy. No shit it's hard to knock him out theirs like 4 inches of fat between his skin and jaw.

He's a big fat guy that weighs 10lbs less than you.

 

[MCx2]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showpost.php?p=1382546&postcount=28

Haha!! I was looking for that myself. 2 points for IainDaniel.

 

[Goodfella9783]

Hence why I no longer let kids take swings at me.

How do you not let someone swing at you when you're in a fight?

 

[JordanMang]

1. I swing first.
2. I shoot for a leg so they can't hit me in the face.
3. I kick them in the knee-cap for the win.

 

[maniclion]

1. I swing first. I grab your arm and redirect you into a brick wall or street with moving cars.
2. I shoot for a leg so they can't hit me in the face. I knee you in the face and call it a day.
3. I kick them in the knee-cap for the win. Lucily my reflexes are good and I shift my weight to the other leg and let your kick flow through my leg as I jab you in the throat.

 

[Goodfella9783]

1. I swing first.
2. I shoot for a leg so they can't hit me in the face.
3. I kick them in the knee-cap for the win.

Yeah but strikes will be flying when you do all that.

1. You're not guaranteed to connect and KO your opponent first
2. If you shoot for legs, one would think that your opponent would still swing at the sides of your head and face while you're attempting to bring them down.
3. Leg kicks are easy to check.

But then again, if you're really 16 yrs. old and 270, why would you have an issue with people starting beef and wanting to fight you? Shit, what is that 10th grade? I think the biggest dude in my class was probably less than 200. I know I wouldn't have fucked with anyone that big. No one 16 years old has enough fighting skill to outmuscle or outpunch a 270 pounder.

 

[BigDyl]

1. I swing first. I'm telepathic, therefor I can predict that someone is going to hit me, and hit them first.2. I shoot for a leg so they can't hit me in the face. I shoot a load on their leg.3. I kick them in the knee-cap for the win. I kick them in the knee, using the methods my dad taught me who is a 1000th degree black belt in every discipline on the planet, and even created a new martial art himself.

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[GFR]

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[Goodfella9783]

Most UFC fighters are crap. They all play to much defense on the ground. I've almost never seen a top UFC fighter go for a submission from on bottom. Watch someone like Hickson Gracie. Even when he's on bottom he submits people. Pride Fighters are 10x the fighters that UFC fighters are. Chuck Lidell is like a street fighter. All people do in the UFC on bottom is go into guard, and try and lock the other fighters head down into their body. My Dad has been practicing MMA for 10 years now, and what I've learned from him is valuable, but it's so much more complicated then the fighters on UFC make it look. I'm almost inclined to think that they ask most of their fighters to try and keep it standing up. UFC fights last way to long. Pride fights to for that matter. I think it's more show then anything. Real Jiu Jitsu masters ( as their advertised as ) will submit you within the first 20-30 sec of the fight. One mistake by either fighter and it should be over.

Just watched the first fight on UFC Unleashed...Mir goes from the triangle from the bottom, doesn't get it, submits Pete Williams by an unconventional armbar/elbow lock...from the bottom.

 

[JordanMang]

Will do, but seriously BigDyl you talk so much shit. It's funny, but it's dumb. You're the one always talking about your amazing Jiu Jitsu skills and I'd roll you.

 

[tucker01]

Will do, but seriously BigDyl you talk so much shit. It's funny, but it's dumb. You're the one always talking about your amazing Jiu Jitsu skills and I'd roll you.

Pot meet Kettle

Till you trip and bang your head off the floor

 

[BigDyl]

Will do, but seriously BigDyl you talk so much shit. It's funny, but it's dumb. You're the one always talking about your amazing Jiu Jitsu skills and I'd roll you.

And you trained under....


Dad doesn't count.

 

[JordanMang]

I don't train under anyone. I just know you couldn't touch me.

 

[BigDyl]

I don't train under anyone. I just know you couldn't touch me.

True Story, that's what every single 16 year old bully thinks.

By the way I'm 6'7, since you think size matters for some reason.


And I didn't train under your dad, which means I actually do train under someone who is directly affiliated under the gracie association. (and rather highly I might add)

 

[MCx2]

True Story, that's what every single 16 year old bully thinks.

By the way I'm 6'7, since you think size matters for some reason.


And I didn't train under your dad, which means I actually do train under someone who is directly affiliated under the gracie association. (and rather highly I might add)

I didn't train for Bowling under your dad so that automatically means I trained under a PBA Hall of Famer. True Story!

 

[Doublebase]

True Story, that's what every single 16 year old bully thinks.

By the way I'm 6'7, since you think size matters for some reason.


And I didn't train under your dad, which means I actually do train under someone who is directly affiliated under the gracie association. (and rather highly I might add)

It seems like everyone who teaches Jiu Jitsu is directly affiliated under the Gracie association.

 

[MCx2]

It seems like everyone who teaches Jiu Jitsu is directly affiliated under the Gracie association.

And everyone BigDyl is affiliated with is the best in the buisness.

 

[fufu]

It seems like everyone who teaches Jiu Jitsu is directly affiliated under the Gracie association.

BJJ is the most popular style of Jiu Jitsu.

 

[fufu]

True Story, that's what every single 16 year old bully thinks.

By the way I'm 6'7, since you think size matters for some reason.


And I didn't train under your dad, which means I actually do train under someone who is directly affiliated under the gracie association. (and rather highly I might add)

True story.

 

[BigDyl]

And everyone BigDyl is affiliated with is the best in the buisness.

No but your mom is.

 

[MCx2]

No but your mom is.

Good one. That's better than the quote in your signature....