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i think this product is aimed towards the uneducated newbies who want a quick edge. I remember growing up and seeing that Jay cutler took Nitro-tech, and i was literally sh*tting in my pants because i thought i was going to get as big as him. Very few products out there work effectively without having to be marketed in the way that these products have. If you show people pictures of quality before and after pictures, some of them are going to go out and buy the product to try and achieve what subject A or B achieved. The end result is that 75% of these buyers take it for 2 days and then forget about the gym, but all the company is concerned with is that they made a sale. Fat, lazy americans are what drive the supplement industry. I LOVE IT!!!!!

Forgive me..im on test...alot
 
i think this product is aimed towards the uneducated newbies who want a quick edge. I remember growing up and seeing that Jay cutler took Nitro-tech, and i was literally sh*tting in my pants because i thought i was going to get as big as him. Very few products out there work effectively without having to be marketed in the way that these products have. If you show people pictures of quality before and after pictures, some of them are going to go out and buy the product to try and achieve what subject A or B achieved. The end result is that 75% of these buyers take it for 2 days and then forget about the gym, but all the company is concerned with is that they made a sale. Fat, lazy americans are what drive the supplement industry. I LOVE IT!!!!!

Forgive me..im on test...alot
Id see your point if we were hiring professional bodybuilders, but we're not and some of these guys aren't even really bodybuilders. Some are just looking to get in better shape, performance, recovery- whatever, so maybe you could classify them as something else. Jay Cutler... Where do you see a guy we've hired thats a bodybuilder of Jay's or even an IFBB competitors caliber? Again, these were submitted by people of their own volition, unpaid, unsolicited ( for the most part ), not paid bodybuilders.
This is why I think the comparisons to Muscletech's ads are a bit ridiculous.

For the record, the supposed 75% you estimate that will forget about the gym, we dont want that to happen and we dont want that one time sale. What we want is happy and satisfied customers who will come back and buy again and tell their friends how good a company and the products are. This only happens when you sell good, quality products ( that obviously work ) with equally good customer service.

These products are aimed at anyone who is serious about changing their bodies for the better and finding more assistance than just food, personal training and regular supplements. We dont go around recommending these products first and training and nutrition after. All the reps know that without a solid base of training and knowledge of nutrition, these products wont produce results.

So if you happen to be an uneducated newbie and your reading these ads, fear not we are not here to just take your money and forget about, in fact we will do quite the opposite. We will take the time to make sure you have a firm grasp of the basics and go from there.

Anyways btex, I think your aware that I totally disagree as far as how this was marketed and our intentions. Honestly I think your looking too far into the whole thing and just simply not appreciating the fact that for the amount of time these guys had, they busted their humps and got results.
 
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Sending pm now azza, but if your in Australia, chances of us getting these to you are nil..

Good Grip, i cant send you pm, i am under PM count, email me at ssford680@gmail.com

I am in Aus, i recently did a challenge and World Pharma sent me meds that came through, 15 packs all up, 1 pack opened and inspected , ok it was test cyp, bold, Anadrols etc, so that is a good success rate. Email me and we can go from there.

AZZA
 
i think this product is aimed towards the uneducated newbies who want a quick edge. I remember growing up and seeing that Jay cutler took Nitro-tech, and i was literally sh*tting in my pants because i thought i was going to get as big as him. Very few products out there work effectively without having to be marketed in the way that these products have. If you show people pictures of quality before and after pictures, some of them are going to go out and buy the product to try and achieve what subject A or B achieved. The end result is that 75% of these buyers take it for 2 days and then forget about the gym, but all the company is concerned with is that they made a sale. Fat, lazy americans are what drive the supplement industry. I LOVE IT!!!!!

Forgive me..im on test...alot

If Musceltech are so bad then why are they still in business? Not sticking up for them just saying they must doing something right

AZZA
 
If Musceltech are so bad then why are they still in business? Not sticking up for them just saying they must doing something right

AZZA

Muscletech is in business because the Market very well. The know how to sell a product. Whether or not they work is up to the people buying their stuff. But you dont see many good reviews, just label claims of 14lbs in 7 days.

Im not saying PP does this at all, i just thought the pictures were funny.
 
Anyways btex, I think your aware that I totally disagree as far as how this was marketed and our intentions. Honestly I think your looking too far into the whole thing and just simply not appreciating the fact that for the amount of time these guys had, they busted their humps and got results.


Your right I am looking into this too far, lol. Sorry im a critical person because im obsessed with supplements. Im not comparing you guys to muscletech, they are in a fairy tale league of their own. My apologize for coming off as an a$$
 
Fake muscletech

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Your right I am looking into this too far, lol. Sorry im a critical person because im obsessed with supplements. Im not comparing you guys to muscletech, they are in a fairy tale league of their own. My apologize for coming off as an a$$

No need to apologize we accept all feedback just like the pics and logs.
 
Your right I am looking into this too far, lol. Sorry im a critical person because im obsessed with supplements. Im not comparing you guys to muscletech, they are in a fairy tale league of their own. My apologize for coming off as an a$$
No worries bro, you sound serious about supplements and having people get their money's worth, a good quality in my book.
 
too bad the fake muscletech ad i posted didnt show up...its a good one. u can view it on the site in my sig ;)
 
Is that your site? Supplement Freak? And sponsored by LG?

And you reckon others make absurd claims?
 
For what its worth (and with someone with more then 1 post saying I'm the 5th down) I've had little to no results with Androlean. Thankfully though PP has a good return policy and i'll be returning it. I didn't gain on their SD knock-off either.
 
For what its worth (and with someone with more then 1 post saying I'm the 5th down) I've had little to no results with Androlean. Thankfully though PP has a good return policy and i'll be returning it. I didn't gain on their SD knock-off either.

I am sorry to hear about your experience and hope that customer service takes care of you. I will say however, if you had no gains on Superdrone, you are in the extreme minority. It wasn't a knock off, it was SD.
 
I say knock-off because it wasn't the original product. However, I hope the customer service takes care of me too as I was told I would be if it didn't work out.
 
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For what its worth (and with someone with more then 1 post saying I'm the 5th down) I've had little to no results with Androlean. Thankfully though PP has a good return policy and i'll be returning it. I didn't gain on their SD knock-off either.

I have other things to do than post on most forums. I just posted because I had a good experience with AndroLean. I post more on other forums. i just don't have time to post on a bunch of them. What I was saying is that I am the one pictured 5th one down. I am Brandon. Sorry you did not have a good experience, but like you said they have a good return policy. That is 1 of the reasons I tryed AL.
 
I have other things to do than post on most forums. I just posted because I had a good experience with AndroLean. I post more on other forums. i just don't have time to post on a bunch of them. What I was saying is that I am the one pictured 5th one down. I am Brandon. Sorry you did not have a good experience, but like you said they have a good return policy. That is 1 of the reasons I tryed AL.

Yah we try our best not to let our customers down, even the ones that don't have a great response to our products. Thanks for clarifying your experience!
 
Yah we try our best not to let our customers down, even the ones that don't have a great response to our products. Thanks for clarifying your experience!

no given product will work for 100% of the population.....its the ones that come close that are usually revered as solid stuff
 
pics def are a joke! suddenly one is tanner, oiled up and shaved? wtf of course you're gonna see a bit of a difference...But sayin that TBol and SDrone are the sh*t! go back to the liquivade tech!
 
pics def are a joke! suddenly one is tanner, oiled up and shaved? wtf of course you're gonna see a bit of a difference...But sayin that TBol and SDrone are the sh*t! go back to the liquivade tech!

All pictures are shown as provided. We didn't change them, or direct them to take the photos after tanning.
 
But sayin that TBol and SDrone are the sh*t! go back to the liquivade tech!

Thanks, EVERYONE under the sun loved our older line of phs. I think the number 1 thing that people disagree with in the new line is the price. That's better than disagreeing with the quality :)
 
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