Another cycle question, Test E and NPP

[Killermonkey]

I am not sure how to use NPP and was doing some research where I couldn't come up with a definitive answer. For an intermediate user, could stack . . .

Weeks 1-12 --- Sustanon 800 mgs pinned eod
Weeks 1-10 --- NPP 400 mgs pinned eod
Weeks 1-4. --- dbol 40 mgs daily
Weeks 1-15 --- aromasin 12.5mgs daily
Clomid 15-18-- 100,100,50,50

I have no way to get caber, is this ok?

What I want to do is not to exceed 12 weeks in a bulking cycle, stack two injects and use one oral, and to stay away from prop(too many bottles to move from place to place).

 

[KUVinny]

Have you done such high doses as these in prior cycles?

But yes npp can be dosed eod or e3d. I try to keep npp to every 2.5 days.

 

[Killermonkey]

Last cycle was simple . . .

750 mg test e 10 weeks
75 mg anadrol first 5 weeks

 

[Killermonkey]

Surprisingly, I didn't need any on cycle meds to counter gyno

 

[KUVinny]

Then the unknown variable is the Nandrolone. 400mg eod is a very high dose of nandro and you don't know how you will react to the progesterone. Aromasin will not treat any progestin related gyno issues. You say you can not get caber... Is this definite? If so I would definitely start much lower with npp. 100 to 150mg eod and see how you respond.

 

[EATSCHILDREN]

Can you get prami or bromo? Progesterone issues can cause serious suppression. I wouldn't run a 19nor without something on hand.

 

[D-Lats]

I've never used anything other than nolva and haven't had a single issue, I've run high doses of tren and deca, npp with zero estro or prolactin issues. Unless you are predisposed to gyno I think you will be fine with the ai you've laid out.

 

[Killermonkey]

Then the unknown variable is the Nandrolone. 400mg eod is a very high dose of nandro and you don't know how you will react to the progesterone. Aromasin will not treat any progestin related gyno issues. You say you can not get caber... Is this definite? If so I would definitely start much lower with npp. 100 to 150mg eod and see how you respond.

What I meant in my chart was 400mg NPP per week

 

[Killermonkey]

The only place I could've got the prami, bromo, or caber was naps. And naps is closed. Where can I get it?

 

[l69lou]

I find the same to be true - nolva takes care of any issues. I also think it may be more a matter of how sensitive you are.

 

[martialartsman]

maybe im just lucky but never needed anything during any cycle ive ran ai wise i mean, i ran npp eod at 200mg and it worked well. Hope that helps buddy.

 

[D-Lats]

I find the only problem I get without nolva is acne because of the combatting hormones. Run 10 mg nolva Ed and pin Ed or eod and everything stays nice and level. For me anyways.

 

[Killermonkey]

So many people told me to never ever use nolva with a 19 nor, especially people on this site.Wtf?

 

[l69lou]

I have noticed that and am interested as to why. I'm an old timer and we have done it that way for decades. But I mean with nandrolone you shouldn't have estrogen problems anyway. I am trying to learn as well .

 

[D-Lats]

It's said to cause prolactin issues but I think it worked for 50 years so I'm not going to try and fix what's not broke. Also one persons opinion can become bro science law on these forums. IMO nolva is fine.

 

[Killermonkey]

So then nolva throughout the whole cycle instead of adex?

 

[D-Lats]

Its up to you bud I'm saying inprefer nolva I've never used anything else. I also run proviron which has ai like characteristics.