Another first cycle question

[hill450]

Hey guys, I've posted before about my first cycle. Just been trying to make sure my body is ready for it and drop my fat in a few locations. Anyway had a few questions I wanted to clear up. Plan on starting after Christmas. Plan on a heavy bulking cycle. I want to eat about 90% or cleaner at 5,000 calories a day. Yes, I know that will be tough but I'm going to try my best. Here is the cycle I appreciate any advice.

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[FONT=&quot]1-10 Test E 700mg[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1-4 SuperDMZ 2 caps/day[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2-10 HCG 500iu 2x Week[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2-10 Exemestane 12.5mg EOD[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]PCT
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[FONT=&quot]12-16 Clomid at 100/75/50/50[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]12-16 Exemestane 12.5mg ED[/FONT]
Vitamin C and Creatine
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[FONT=&quot]May notice I'm not starting HCG & Exemestane until week 2--I've read this is ok but want it cleared up. I start PCT 2 weeks after Test so the ester can clear, correct? Lastly, should the HCG be ran into the PCT or is it ok what I have down?
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[FONT=&quot]Thank you guys in advance.
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[FONT=&quot]Stats
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Over 5 years serious
22
6'2"
215 and going down
14%bf and dropping


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[Vibrant]

everything looks good. I'd start the aromasin from day 1 though. do not use hcg during pct, only up to pct.

 

[hill450]

Will do, Vibrant, run the HCG in the two weeks between cycle and pct too?

EDIT: I will also be running Cycle Support RX with the Super DMZ too, forgot to add that.

 

[rage racing]

everything looks good. I'd start the aromasin from day 1 though. do not use hcg during pct, only up to pct.

Good advice here. I would run the Aromasin at 12.5mg ED though.

 

[justhav2p]

700 is just a tad high for first cycle... You'll get great results with test at 500 mgs a week. Dbol never hurts from week 1-4

 

[hill450]

Well I really want to run 700 and get all I can out of it my first time. Would the exemestane be better to run ED? I don't want to over do it on that. Also, I'm running the Super Dmz in place of dbol because I've heard it is a good kicker and I wanted to try it. Saving the Dbol for the second go around. That or prop.

 

[justhav2p]

ed because its a short half life. it'll help keep bloat and tits away.

 

[justhav2p]

remember, less is moar.

 

[Vibrant]

700 is just a tad high for first cycle... You'll get great results with test at 500 mgs a week. Dbol never hurts from week 1-4

700 is not that high if you account for the ester weight. But I also think he should start a little lower.

Op, why dont you start with 500mg for the first 6 weeks and if you think you need to go higher bump it up to 750mg for weeks 7-10.

 

[hill450]

Well, I guess I can drop it some. I just don't want to take too low of an amount. I've done two mdrol cycles and the second one didn't really effect me much even at a higher dose. I want to make sure I'm taking enough to see good gains.

Any reason to drop from 700? Just because its my first time or will 700 be too harsh or what?

 

[justhav2p]

Well, I guess I can drop it some. I just don't want to take too low of an amount. I've done two mdrol cycles and the second one didn't really effect me much even at a higher dose. I want to make sure I'm taking enough to see good gains.

Any reason to drop from 700? Just because its my first time or will 700 be too harsh or what?

not that its going to be too harsh,.. it's just not needed. your going to get swole off 500 mgs a week.

 

[hill450]

Ok, as long as 500 will do the job then I will try that and if I feel necessary jump up a little for the remaining.

Thanks guys you've been a big help!

 

[rage racing]

Well I really want to run 700 and get all I can out of it my first time. Would the exemestane be better to run ED? I don't want to over do it on that. Also, I'm running the Super Dmz in place of dbol because I've heard it is a good kicker and I wanted to try it. Saving the Dbol for the second go around. That or prop.

You could always run the DMZ as a finisher at the end of the cycle. I will be running DMZ for the last two weeks with my test and the two weeks while the test clears. I was recomended this ( thanks Heavy) to help get past the "stall" you get towards the end of a test only cycle.

 

[hill450]

So, youre running dmz at the end instead of the beginning? Hmmmm

 

[rage racing]

So, youre running dmz at the end instead of the beginning? Hmmmm

Yup

 

[hill450]

Hmm but then you've got to wait a month for the shit to kick in?

 

[Vibrant]

Hmm but then you've got to wait a month for the shit to kick in?

no you dont. But I dont think you should use a finisher for your first cycle.

 

[hill450]

Well I've just planned on using the Super Dmz as a kicker and I'll probably stick to that. But I thought Test E takes about 3-4 weeks for the effects to kick in?

 

[Vibrant]

Well I've just planned on using the Super Dmz as a kicker and I'll probably stick to that. But I thought Test E takes about 3-4 weeks for the effects to kick in?

yes, you are right about the test e. its a little different for everyone but 4 weeks is a good estimate.

 

[SloppyJ]

The aromasin needs to be 12.5 mg ED.

The HCG needs to be taken something like this:

1-10 500iu 2x per week
11: 500iu 3x per weej
12: 1000iu 3x per week

There are a LOT of different HCG protcols and they all are close to the same. Basically you want to run as low as you can while on cycle. When you drop the test you need to blast the HCG until you start PCT. I always make sure that I have around 2 days from my last shot of HCG to the first day of clomid.

That was really close to my first cycle, almost identical age and weight. I ended up bumping it up to 750mg/wk and found that I liked that dose better. So I think 6-700mg/wk is okay for a first timer but that's me.

 

[hill450]

Thanks sloppy, that seems like a lot I'll use this protocol for the HCG and I can't decide for sure on my Test dose just yet. I of course want to up it but I want to be safe too. Thanks for the help man.

 

[stone14]

cycle looks fine, you would do just as well with 500mg ew