another geeky experiment

[Supermans Daddy]

I enjoy experiment'n with esters and compounds I've pretty much done the math on half and active lives (down to the hour lol), internal organ concerns and time'n ester changes to avoid any unpleasant sides during this lil run.This would be for me a lean mass ( I consider bulk'n a lil different effect) builder /cut'n cycle.Again I'll be use'n different compounds in different "phases" ( 3 to be exact) to allow smooth transition ,no sides and plasma and lipod levels in check.I have recently began run'n my AI's in a "cycle" sorta in different phases, Adex is the major player in 2 phases HOWEVER Letro is always used in the last phase as I feel it promotes a more finished appearance in the end result.( a bit drier) I'm plann on a frontload and a steady dosage protocol opposed to the ramping idea on this as I don't think from past experience with each compound that sides will be an issue. After my frontload I just want to remain stable at a good dose for short blast hit it hard and get hell out to the next phase lol


16 weeks

The compounds
Phase I
( 6 weeks)
Nandrolone ( Deca)400mgs wk
Dbol 50mg ED
Test E 750 wk
4iu hgh ED
Injectable creatine ( No it does not cause water retention,but it does give that full of carbs kinda look)
I've decided on long esters at first for the logical reasons.

Phase II
(6 weeks)
Test Cyp 600mg wk
NPP 400mg wk
EQ 400mg wk
(stop NPP 5 days before everythin else)
4iu's HGH
inject creatine
esters not quite as long as phase I
Phase III

(4 weeks)
TPP 2 weeks change to Test prop 450mg wk
Crystal Tren 300mg wk
EQ 300mg wk
Masteron 300wk
Winny or Tbol 50mg ED
drop to 2 ius ( just because I feel really good on that low a dose)
injectable L Carnintine
T3
ECYA
Clen
short fast esters , rip cut time.


liver, kidney, prostate protection all in place,also all the supps and herbs ( I'm into the natural stuff as well) and all the normal concerns. I'll be start'n this after the business I'm slated for is over and I won't have to worry bout weight gain ( which I'm look'n for). My choice of compounds and mathematical formulas have been checked and I actually discussed this with Vic some months ago but decided on my tren experiment ( which was amaze'n by the way). Just thought I'd share my experiment with you all. Plus I get tired of read'n the same 25 or 30 questions asked over and over in different ways, so I figured I'd change the flavor a bit. lolol No journal because I'm not vain enough to believe everyone cares lol but I will let you know how it comes out. If you're interested in how I came up with these compounds, doses and the math I used ,PM me. Don't wanna bore anyone with geeky stuff.

Peace and Love

 

[World-Pharma.org]

Dear Supermans Daddy, nice long list of meds.

 

[Supermans Daddy]

Dear Supermans Daddy, nice long list of meds.

Yes it is indeed,fortunately I've got it covered.

We have had a difference of " opnion" which may never change HOWEVER as a man I would like to thank you publicly for the well wishes when I lost my dad. Wish I could honestly say I respect some your business practices, But I can say from the heart I do respect what you did. Thank you.
As far as us disagree'n bout " things" ,it's got'n old and goin nowhere and to be honest I just don't even care anymore. It is what it is. Do what you feel you have to do and you feel is right for you.Lets just agree that you know whats real and I do as well and we just move on. We can agree to disagree I suppose you can call it. We all answer for our own deeds Me for mine , you for yours. Thats enough I'd hope. Peace and Bless'ns to you and yours.

Peace and Love

 

[Flathead]

Looks like a well thought out plan! I reccomend doing a journal, a lot of us here learn from others trials/errors.

I notice you say winny or tbol in phase III, what will be the determining factor on which one you end up choosing?


As far as how you came up with dosing etc, please post accordingly. Will not bore us, I promise.


Flathead

 

[MDR]

It all looks pretty interesting to me. Nothing wrong with a little geeky experimentation. I look forward to see how all this comes together.

 

[LAM]

looks like fun...I would run T3 the whole time

 

[Supermans Daddy]

OK Flathead, you asked for it ! lol

Looks like a well thought out plan! I reccomend doing a journal, a lot of us here learn from others trials/errors.

I notice you say winny or tbol in phase III, what will be the determining factor on which one you end up choosing?


As far as how you came up with dosing etc, please post accordingly. Will not bore us, I promise.


Flathead

as far as dose'n , it's based on my body weight (current) and experience with compounds I'm using. I'm kinda new to Dbol so I'll pay close attention to BP and water retention, counting on AI to handle that.
My dose'n is based on how long before the compounds are at half strength before I dose again to allow a bit of an overflow from one inject to another to allow an even plasma level ( keep my body from bein more stressed and to keep sides under control as well as know'n exactly what and how much of something is inside me through out the day) this is where the paper and pencil come in figure my inject times and halflife range try'n to be accurate to within an hour to be exact. This becomes a lil weird when add'n up a few different injectable compounds with different time releases, thus the reason for match'n esters ( long with long, med with med, etc) to keep things as simple as possible. As you start to time your halflive and you begin to get spillover into inject times they must now be added into the formula to keep an accurate record of mg strength throughout the day. Also compounds and their release times do not follow a Mon. Wed. Fri. protocol but is based on times not days of the week. It's normal to find oneself inject'n on different days but at the same time on those days. Active life plays a vital role in the introduction to each phase as for example you ( or at least I don't) want to have a bunch of Deca in my system when I bring on the Crystal Tren. Thats begg'n for trouble and can be easily avoided by use'n the active life of a compound to make sure it's out of your system enough to safely add a different compound without a major concern. AI's are needed even if you use a calculator , if it ain't safe, it ain't shit ! The orals in my opinion should be split into evenly divided into 2 even doses. I really am on this because I feel that low doses would allow me to have the compound in my system throughout the day as well as help curb bad sides and allow me to deal with 25mg split into 12.5mg at the end of a day as opposed to just 50mg break'n down to 25mg with the 12.5 and 6.25 at the end. I also would take the compound an hour before full halflife to insure even plasma in that area as well.
I'll explain more about that later if you wish.

As far as choice of orals , winny works great with masteron for that hard dry look for me, I really don't note a huge strength gain however.Tbol is also a great hardener as well as a strength booster, but I don't know how it reacts with masteron. I think that both will work well as a finisher so it may just come down to how my joints feel. At the end diet is gonna be a mega important factor no matter which one I use. After I experiment with tbol in combination with what I consider finish'n compounds, I'll have a much better Idea as to how it works on me.
I spoke to Victor Richards today about my plan, he agreed with it but thought that I might want to length'n it by an additional week between Phase II and III to allow the extra time to clear the deca out before add'n something as strong as Crystal Tren which combines well with most things, but deca is not one of them. Also was turned on to a blend of AI's that I hadn't thought of before. I was also told to include Niacin for 3 days in between phases, to help flush the bloodstream. Sounds kinda logical so I'm down for the ride. I hope I explained that so that it makes sense when you read it consider'n I just wrote a novel. LOLOL

Peace and Love

 

[Supermans Daddy]

looks like fun...I would run T3 the whole time

Hey Homey !! Good to see you back around here ! My metabolism is quick anyway ,the compounds will also be help'n in that area as well so I will be synthesising protein pretty quickly and don't feel the need for myself to add T3 until the last phase. I do understand your reason'n. Plus I've read a couple hundred things that say low dose T3 is safe year round . However I am still a lil leary bout runn'n T3 longer than 6 wk at the doses I use. Got the Guggles for thyroid PCT ready as well. I personally prefer Triacana, a bit more forgive'n and very effective.

Peace and Love

 

[LAM]

My metabolism is quick anyway

I think that's an "understatement"...lol

 

[independent]

I saw you mentioned Vic Richards. I saw him train at my gym around 1994, he was the biggest mofo I have ever seen in my life. Is he still huge?

 

[Supermans Daddy]

I saw you mentioned Vic Richards. I saw him train at my gym around 1994, he was the biggest mofo I have ever seen in my life. Is he still huge?

Like a walk'n build'n. lol

 

[VictorZ06]

I saw you mentioned Vic Richards. I saw him train at my gym around 1994, he was the biggest mofo I have ever seen in my life. Is he still huge?

Not HUGE but....I still turn heads. lol



/V

 

[independent]

Not HUGE but....I still turn heads. lol



/V

Are you Vic R? You were training at powerhouse in Chatsworth, Ca.

 

[Flathead]

as far as dose'n , it's based on my body weight (current) and experience with compounds I'm using. I'm kinda new to Dbol so I'll pay close attention to BP and water retention, counting on AI to handle that.
My dose'n is based on how long before the compounds are at half strength before I dose again to allow a bit of an overflow from one inject to another to allow an even plasma level ( keep my body from bein more stressed and to keep sides under control as well as know'n exactly what and how much of something is inside me through out the day) this is where the paper and pencil come in figure my inject times and halflife range try'n to be accurate to within an hour to be exact. This becomes a lil weird when add'n up a few different injectable compounds with different time releases, thus the reason for match'n esters ( long with long, med with med, etc) to keep things as simple as possible. As you start to time your halflive and you begin to get spillover into inject times they must now be added into the formula to keep an accurate record of mg strength throughout the day. Also compounds and their release times do not follow a Mon. Wed. Fri. protocol but is based on times not days of the week. It's normal to find oneself inject'n on different days but at the same time on those days. Active life plays a vital role in the introduction to each phase as for example you ( or at least I don't) want to have a bunch of Deca in my system when I bring on the Crystal Tren. Thats begg'n for trouble and can be easily avoided by use'n the active life of a compound to make sure it's out of your system enough to safely add a different compound without a major concern. AI's are needed even if you use a calculator , if it ain't safe, it ain't shit ! The orals in my opinion should be split into evenly divided into 2 even doses. I really am on this because I feel that low doses would allow me to have the compound in my system throughout the day as well as help curb bad sides and allow me to deal with 25mg split into 12.5mg at the end of a day as opposed to just 50mg break'n down to 25mg with the 12.5 and 6.25 at the end. I also would take the compound an hour before full halflife to insure even plasma in that area as well.
I'll explain more about that later if you wish.

As far as choice of orals , winny works great with masteron for that hard dry look for me, I really don't note a huge strength gain however.Tbol is also a great hardener as well as a strength booster, but I don't know how it reacts with masteron. I think that both will work well as a finisher so it may just come down to how my joints feel. At the end diet is gonna be a mega important factor no matter which one I use. After I experiment with tbol in combination with what I consider finish'n compounds, I'll have a much better Idea as to how it works on me.
I spoke to Victor Richards today about my plan, he agreed with it but thought that I might want to length'n it by an additional week between Phase II and III to allow the extra time to clear the deca out before add'n something as strong as Crystal Tren which combines well with most things, but deca is not one of them. Also was turned on to a blend of AI's that I hadn't thought of before. I was also told to include Niacin for 3 days in between phases, to help flush the bloodstream. Sounds kinda logical so I'm down for the ride. I hope I explained that so that it makes sense when you read it consider'n I just wrote a novel. LOLOL

Peace and Love

Damn Bro, that's some real world shit!! I actually got a lot out of that. It made me want to reconsider my next 24wks worth of cycles? Just when I think I get a new game plan put together, I see some holes!!

 

[VictorZ06]

K

Are you Vic R? You were training at powerhouse in Chatsworth, Ca.

LOL, no.


/V

 

[Supermans Daddy]

K
LOL, no.


/V

HOWEVER, Vic my Homey is a BAD MAN INDEED !!! Plus most of my geeky side I got from him, Damn paper and penceil for a cycle ! Damn it Vic !!! lololol Love ya big Homey!

Peace and Love

 

[Supermans Daddy]

I settled on the Idea of perhaps include'n inject winstrol a 75 or 100mg ED and oral T bol 50 to 100 ED in the third phase. The winny is sorta high dose but not a major concern T bol is something I have gott'n a feel for and am comfortable in increase'n 50mg to 100mg after 2 weeks. Time'n will be the key to this whole experiment. I'm also toy'n with the idea of extend'n this for 20 weeks as opposed to 16. (like I don't have enough scar tissue lol) Got a period of phase II where I'm change'n from NPP to Tren in phase III . The 5 day space I had considered extend'n for 2 weeks but just use'n Primobolan at 200mg EOD with Test as a way to Kinda increase levels without really upset'n anything before inter'n my last phase on totally different compounds and esters. This is another theory that was explained to me by a pro of note. I'll explain the theory in depth after I work out some things.

Peace and Love

 

[The Powersource]

I settled on the Idea of perhaps include'n inject winstrol a 75 or 100mg ED and oral T bol 50 to 100 ED in the third phase. The winny is sorta high dose but not a major concern T bol is something I have gott'n a feel for and am comfortable in increase'n 50mg to 100mg after 2 weeks. Time'n will be the key to this whole experiment. I'm also toy'n with the idea of extend'n this for 20 weeks as opposed to 16. (like I don't have enough scar tissue lol) Got a period of phase II where I'm change'n from NPP to Tren in phase III . The 5 day space I had considered extend'n for 2 weeks but just use'n Primobolan at 200mg EOD with Test as a way to Kinda increase levels without really upset'n anything before inter'n my last phase on totally different compounds and esters. This is another theory that was explained to me by a pro of note. I'll explain the theory in depth after I work out some things.

Peace and Love

RUDE BOI !!! The Rasta Mod. lolol Dude I'm from the NBA forum. Bro I learned a ton of shit from you there.Good to see you here. I been looking over this cycle and Ive got to ask, Bro do you ever sleep with all this shit in your head? lolol

Peace my Jamaican brotha from anotha mother

 

[VictorZ06]

I love how your mind works SD, my hat comes off to you my friend. Good luck with your upcoming fight! Keep us posted.


/V

 

[Supermans Daddy]

I've planned this for a long time now and I'll start in a few weeks.I've been exicited bout this since I first decided to try this one. I'm really gonna get some first hand experience this "bridge within the cycle" idea while transition'n between compounds. Should be Killa !!

Peace and Love