It might be interesting to start a thread for triathletes, swimmers, cyclists, runners, wrestlers, and MMA athletes to discuss what regimens they have had success with in the past, and what supplements they are currently using.
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Any endurance athletes here?
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MrSaturatedFat
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I'm not, but my buddy is. We've been getting into discussions about what the best stack would be for endurance. He's does crossfit, so its all about being strong/fast/flexible/coordinated/etc. So far he's only done a Test only cycle, pretty good results. He says he's too nervous to try EQ, he reads about all the bad stuff that comes with a high RBC.. so he's decided to try a Test/Winny stack.
As far as training, he was just doing his own custom crossfit WODs, now hes focusing on getting his big lifts up doing Wendlers 5/3/1. He's getting great results.
I'd love to hear what endurance athletes do as far as stacks and training. I made a post on this on another site and it didn't get to far.
As far as training, he was just doing his own custom crossfit WODs, now hes focusing on getting his big lifts up doing Wendlers 5/3/1. He's getting great results.
I'd love to hear what endurance athletes do as far as stacks and training. I made a post on this on another site and it didn't get to far.
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Pretty cool YouTube on the balco scandal and what Marion jones and some other athletes were taking It's a 4 part video this is part one
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Will be watching and adding input when I can. I miss my bike riding days 
exphys88
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I do some alpine climbing, lots of endurance involved. Nothing like training at 10000 ft, or sleeping that high for a couple nights.
exphys88
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I chase my wife when I'm on tren, does that count?
Hey guy's...I'm an avid trail runner, mountain biker, and compete in 5 & 10K road races. I started using AAS again (not since my early 20's - I'm 39 now) when I moved to Phoenix and experienced a summer heat wasting like no other, which over a few years, has lead to multiple injuries primary caused by muscle breakdown and loss of strength. Since my racing season is pretty much the spring through the fall, I break up my training into two groups - strength training in the winter months, endurance, speedwork and strength maintenance spring through fall. In terms of my gym routine, I follow a 3 on 1 off split in the winter and a 2 on 2 off split spring through fall. Actually, in the late summer months, I sometimes switch back to more of a strength routine as the long hot summer starts to take its toll.
In terms of AAS, I haven't found one combination that I think is best, but excess amounts water retention for me is problematic when trying to run. I've had varying results with the different compounds I've tried, but what I like best for running/ racing is a low dose of Deca (300mg wk), TRT dose of Test E (250mg wk) and maybe some Tbol or Var for an extra kick. I liked the deca because for once in my life, I wasn't having tons of joint pain after the pounding rocky trail runs I do. Granted this is what I would use during the racing season and it considered probably by most to be low dose (or at least for BBer), but I can't afford to gain weight (few lbs of lean mass is ok) while I'm trying to just maintain and not waste during race season. For winter, it's a whole different story. I've had great results with Test E/ Cyp (500mg wk), Dbol 40mgs ED (kickstart). For me, winter doesn't mean bulk (excessive weight gain), but rather more of recomp of lean mass and strength. In the winter, I never gain more than 8-10lbs and by the end of summer with AAS, I never fall below my maintenance weight.
Looking forward hearing what everyone else has to say...
In terms of AAS, I haven't found one combination that I think is best, but excess amounts water retention for me is problematic when trying to run. I've had varying results with the different compounds I've tried, but what I like best for running/ racing is a low dose of Deca (300mg wk), TRT dose of Test E (250mg wk) and maybe some Tbol or Var for an extra kick. I liked the deca because for once in my life, I wasn't having tons of joint pain after the pounding rocky trail runs I do. Granted this is what I would use during the racing season and it considered probably by most to be low dose (or at least for BBer), but I can't afford to gain weight (few lbs of lean mass is ok) while I'm trying to just maintain and not waste during race season. For winter, it's a whole different story. I've had great results with Test E/ Cyp (500mg wk), Dbol 40mgs ED (kickstart). For me, winter doesn't mean bulk (excessive weight gain), but rather more of recomp of lean mass and strength. In the winter, I never gain more than 8-10lbs and by the end of summer with AAS, I never fall below my maintenance weight.
Looking forward hearing what everyone else has to say...
exphys88
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How does tbol affect your cardio? Dbol and tbol give me terrible calf pumps that detrimentally affect my cardio.
I definately get bad back pumps on dbol when running hills, but haven't had any problems on flat surfaces or with any other muscle groups. With tbol, I seemed also get back pumps, but mild in comparsion to dbol.
supplements that have been recommended:
T enanthate or cypionate @ 150-200mg/wk
HGH 3-5iu/d
benefits:
1) improved recovery between training sessions
2) prevents muscle catabolism while dieting to make weight
3) increased plasma volume
4) increased crit
T enanthate or cypionate @ 150-200mg/wk
HGH 3-5iu/d
benefits:
1) improved recovery between training sessions
2) prevents muscle catabolism while dieting to make weight
3) increased plasma volume
4) increased crit
Grozny
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Can we considerate masturbation like some kind of endurance I usually run it 5x per day.
keith1569
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U may want to try low dose eq. I really liked it effects on recovery also
What dose did you run?
What do you consider high doses? I've never experienced any issues with aerobic performance on any compound that I've tried, unless I gained too much weight in a short period of time. In fact, I ran my 5K PR last spring (at 38 I might add) while on 400mg Prop and 400mg Mast EW. This was an experiment and the PIP will keep me from ever using it again. However, I have read many times that Tren is the one AAS that does have a mechanism that reduces aerobic performance. I would never have any need for Tren...too many sides from what I've been told.
my wife runs and did compete in 10+ k's many times and one marathon , now she is a triathlete....very dedicated and an excellent swimmer ...and the hardest part is that she is no skinny woman... she has a full healthy figure and she is 49...never used any supplements at all besides vitamins but she follows an extremely well studied natural diet. She does not even know anything about steroids ...not even use any protein supplements ...nothing...but hell she can run and ...swim!
i don't personally think steroids will help in endurance, and i think too many muscles will not help in endurance either
i don't personally think steroids will help in endurance, and i think too many muscles will not help in endurance either
Anything more than 200mg/wk of test will totally block aerobic performance. This is a widely agreed upon fact. Yes, this is a TRT dose, and that is pretty much what you want if you are training your aerobic engine hard. Very intense aerobic training totally shuts down your HPT axis - so TRT, HGH, and low dose thyroid replacement is what an athlete needs. Too much will block aerobic efforts in a big way.
HTPE axis suppression by intense aerobic training is considered common knowledge and is described in basic exercise physiology texts. There is abundant peer reviewed literature on this subject too. Endurance gurus, recommend repleting, but not over dosing these hormones.
I'm writing this before I look at the Marion Jones Balco video. I was ranked as high as 3rd in the nation in my division in my sport. My most successful cycles were ridiculously low dose but they did make a difference. I preferred Winstrol in season and deca off season. It was the 80s so test was not the king like it is today. I also liked Equipoise in season and off season. 200-300 mg/w max total AAS. No water retention. Just added strength and alphaness.
heckler7
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I feel pretty good on test and dbol, but from expirience SD drags me down, I was on 2 summers ago and remember feeling like today is the day I'm gonna drown everytime I went surfing. After about 30 mins I could barely lift my arms out of the water.
One more thing. Pretty much everyone with the elite status was on something.
Did you run winstrol & deca by itself and if so, what was your daily and or weekly dosage?
Digitalash
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How about 150mg each EQ and deca, for endurance and joint health respectively; 200mg test E/C for libido/ mental health/ drive etc.
