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Tom_B said:
Nvm figured it out, there now you guys can see my fat gross nasty body lol, and guess how much my bodyfat% is cause I have no clue, that guy at the gym probably had no idea what he was doing.
I just checked out ur pics.. wheres the fat????!!!! :confused:
SHOW ME THE MON... er..FAAAATTTT!!!! :D

I feel that u are still in the 'i am fat' state of mind. But seriously u r NOT!! Actually a little fat is aceptable and will also make u look good... (trust this skinny guy on his way to getting big). Dont forget, on the otherhand, if u keep up with the 'i need to loose weight' state of mind given ur present physical state, u will be sooooo skinny that ppl will start to stare at u again, but this time for the opposite reason! think about it. :p

if (wannaba poster child for fammine relif)
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continue what u r doing
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else
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reconsider
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Well I still feel like I have fat on the lower part of my stomach and my thighs, I think I'll always be in that "i am fat" state of mind, I always have been and I can't imagine myself ever not thinking like that.
 
Tom.

Listen to what the room has to say.

Get your meals in order. (3 -4k calories)
Start weight training
STOP THE CARDIO..you're going to blow away.

Babs
 
Tom_B said:
I think I'll always be in that "i am fat" state of mind, I always have been and I can't imagine myself ever not thinking like that.
when u were overweight did u have a state of mind such as "i have always been fat and can't imagine myself being slim" ??? I dont think so.. The fact that u have managed to make such a great change to yourself is proof enough. U put in a lot of hard work into your body to get where u r and that is commendable.

Similarly, u need to work towards changing your state of mind to work positively for you, just as u did for your body.

A persons body is not the only thing that needs work.. the mind does too...and it IS possible to work at and change both ..IMO ;)

And u hv changed one, why not the other??
 
I got by mf measured at the gym and it said 3%...which is really low for a girl. Don't trust your reading. You have to get it done at a hospital or something. Either underwater weighing or 7 point calipers. Get them to do it 3 times so the results are consistant. And the online bf calculators are shit.
 
And listen to babs about the cardio, she knows what she's talking about.
 
Look here's the deal; you say you are worried about getting fat but you are eating 2700 calories. You are still gaining weight doing this it will just take longer, so why not speed up the uninevitable and just do it.
 
BabsieGirl said:
Tom.

Listen to what the room has to say.

Get your meals in order. (3 -4k calories)
Start weight training
STOP THE CARDIO..you're going to blow away.

Babs
Well I'm getting my meals downpact, I'm eating 2800 calories and on sunday I weigh myself to see if I gained weight or not (I ate 2100-2300 calories for one week and lost a pound). I've been lifting weights now for a little longer than 2 months, and as I've explained before I just can't stop the cardio, I just can't. Lol and I doubt that I'll blow away. If you and jaim91 haven't yet then I won't for sure, cause you two are alot thinner than me.

BulkMeUp said:
when u were overweight did u have a state of mind such as "i have always been fat and can't imagine myself being slim" ??? I dont think so.. The fact that u have managed to make such a great change to yourself is proof enough. U put in a lot of hard work into your body to get where u r and that is commendable.

Similarly, u need to work towards changing your state of mind to work positively for you, just as u did for your body.

A persons body is not the only thing that needs work.. the mind does too...and it IS possible to work at and change both ..IMO ;)

And u hv changed one, why not the other??
Well when I was overweight (like 170lbs, pretty much all of it was fat) I did have that state of mind "i have always been fat and can't imagine myself being slim", thats why my eating disorder went on for 3 years. I's do it for a couple of months then think "This isn't working I'm always gonna be fat and I have to accept, hell who am I even doing this to please?" so then I'd stop for a couple of months with an occasional throw up here and there, and then after I while I'd become sick of how fat I was and I'd start over, and it went on and on like that. I know my mind needs just as much work as my body if not more, and that'll probably be my most hardest thing to do.


jaim91 said:
I got by mf measured at the gym and it said 3%...which is really low for a girl. Don't trust your reading. You have to get it done at a hospital or something. Either underwater weighing or 7 point calipers. Get them to do it 3 times so the results are consistant. And the online bf calculators are shit.
Ya I'm not trusting the bodyfat% I got at the gym, the guy had no idea what he was doing, my fist clue shoulda been when i called and asked if they did body fat % measurments down there and then he said :ummm sure...ya I guess we could do that.."

SportinStyle said:
Look here's the deal; you say you are worried about getting fat but you are eating 2700 calories. You are still gaining weight doing this it will just take longer, so why not speed up the uninevitable and just do it.
Well i wanna gain about a pound a week, nothing to fast, that way I can tell if I'm gaining fat or muscle, I'm also taking it slow because I don't want to relapse, it's only been about 5 months since I've gotten out of the hospital and theres no way in hell I'm ever going back there. So by gaining a pound a week instead of like 3 pounds a week, I can mentally handle that ALOT better.

I know alot of you guy's are thinking "god he's so stupid I don't understand why he just dosen't eat more, and stop the cardio if he wants to gain some muscle" but it's not as simple as that, I wish it was but its not. It's a battle within myself everyday, I have two voices in my head always fighting against each other, one voice is me, and the other is the eating disorder. I know it sounds stupid but it's the best way I can explain it, the only one who probably really understands is jaim91. When I went into grade 9 I was happy with myself, I didn't care what other's thought about me or my weight I finally thought I beat the eating disorder and there'd never be never be any more day's without food or, stuffing mydelf so much that I couldn't even walk so I could throw everthing up so much easier. But then in P.D.R. class we started up the eating disorder section and all the same old thoughts came back but this time it was so much worse, There'd be weeks upon weeks without food, the only time i'd eat anything thing is if I collapsed, I'd eat half an apple so I could get on with my day and exercise some more, I would always put myself down about everything, I'd constently call myself fat, even when I weighed 105 pounds, I called myself a fat ass. This went on for 5 months untill I was hospitilized cause my heart rate was in low 30's, which meant it was in the mid 20's while I was sleeping, They said within 2 days I probably would of had a heart attack. So It isn't as easy as just waking up every morning and stuffing my face full and saying to myself that I'm not gonna bother doing any cardio this morning, I've already made some pretty big steps forward and I don't want to take any back.
 
Well bud, that's a sad story. Sorry to hear about all your trouble & you are right.. most of us just simply can't understand. We haven't been through it, so we can't see it how you do. However, as everyone is saying, you cannot feasibly gain 100% muscle. Bottom line, to put on muscle you must have a calorie surplus. Can't have it both ways!

It's pretty much a guarantee that you won't let yourself get fat... have a little faith in yourself!

You talk pretty openly about your problem, and it looks like you're ready to take the plunge. You sound determind enough.. so don't give up.

Eat up! :thumb:
 
Ya I was thinking about that tonight, that no matter how hard I try, I'm gonna gain some fat. So I think what I'm gonna do is gain about 20-30 pounds, then I'll go on a cut a lose about 10 pounds. so In the end I should be either 130 pound or 140 pounds. I can't wait till I can go on the cut, everything will be so much easier for me, but hopefully with school starting up soon that'll take my mind away from alot of things.
 
Ok lets not start talking about a cut already

Instead gain the 20 pounds and then slow it down a bit....dont cut, you will might relapse...
 
lol, I totally understand this kid but after watching Penn and Teller I completely realized eating disorders are a mental thing that you can beat with willpower and if you think you can't then you can't. Mental blocks can manifest physcally into something that stops you. Don't let it overwhelm you. Just keep thinking you can eat right and lots and you'll do it!

Oh well, good luck and keep on truckin'!
 
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SportinStyle said:
lol, I totally understand this kid but after watching Penn and Teller I completely realized eating disorders are a mental thing that you can beat with willpower.

Oh well, good luck and keep on truckin'!

wow! learned that from watching penn & teller?

it may sound easy to you and me, but that means nothing to someone with an eating disorder
 
lol, I'm kinda buzzed/high/drunk. School starts in 2 days and this is my last party night, just got home. Let me edit it. ;)
 
SportinStyle said:
lol, I totally understand this kid but after watching Penn and Teller I completely realized eating disorders are a mental thing that you can beat with willpower and if you think you can't then you can't. Mental blocks can manifest physcally into something that stops you. Don't let it overwhelm you. Just keep thinking you can eat right and lots and you'll do it!

Oh well, good luck and keep on truckin'!

well at least now we see what penn & teller taught ya! :)
 
*In Mr. Mackey's Voice* Mari-juana's bad, MMMKAY. *out*
 
myCAT has a good point. Shouldn't the bulking phase...where you become 130 or 140 be the more fun part than cutting?

PENN AND TELLER?!
 
myCATpowerlifts said:
Ok lets not start talking about a cut already

Instead gain the 20 pounds and then slow it down a bit....dont cut, you will might relapse...
Well I'm kinda hoping that by then I'll be a little bit more better with the whole food thing, and might actually like my body.

Terok`Nor said:
you want to cut down to 130-140?!
ya I just want to gain about 20 -30 pounds of muscle, I wanna stay pretty small and lean, I'm not interested in getting huge.

SportinStyle said:
lol, I totally understand this kid but after watching Penn and Teller I completely realized eating disorders are a mental thing that you can beat with willpower and if you think you can't then you can't. Mental blocks can manifest physcally into something that stops you. Don't let it overwhelm you. Just keep thinking you can eat right and lots and you'll do it!

Oh well, good luck and keep on truckin'!
lmao! how'd penn and teller come into this?:laugh:
Anyways, ya I know it's a complete mental thing that I can't seem to get pasted, I was visiting a therapist for a little but they have no idea about eating disorders down here, I was their first eating disorder pateint, they were basically using me as a guinea pig so I eventually stoped going, so now I'm trying to get past this thing on my own cause I got noone else here, the only people I can really talk to about this stuff is you guys.


jaim91 said:
myCAT has a good point. Shouldn't the bulking phase...where you become 130 or 140 be the more fun part than cutting?

PENN AND TELLER?!
well not for me, I hate bulking right now, I feel so sick with myself all the time for eating so much, I'll like the cut more because I naturally like eating less, I won't feel so bloated and full all the time then.
 
You should make the trip to Sick Kids hospital once a week. They have the most reputable and well known eating disorder treatment centre. It's actually amazing. They've got the inpatient unit, and day treatment (which would be good for you). They'll straighten you out...trust me
 
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well the only thing close like that is the IWK in halifax (2 hour drive from here, so 4 hours there and back), thats where I was put in the hospital, I was just suppos to go there and get a treatment plan untill they did my vitals and realized that my heart was so messed up. So I spent about a month in there before my mom pulled me out because they were so messed up, they had the most retarded rules in there, and the dietican was a bitch...so thats the closest place that even remotely specilizes in eating disorders but I'll be damned if I ever go back there.
 
I was just kidding around about "having your problem" I have an an acquaintance who is very very underweight. I don't think he has an unhealthy view of himself, but I know he would love some extra pounds. He was just diagnosed with Diabetes and i think its because of being underweight.
 
That's good...he really wants to do it, but the situation is a little different here.

I have a friend who came down from Nova Scotia to sick kids because she was THAT motivated to get better.
 
Well I know my parents would try and figure out a way and everything, it's just I don't want to put any more pressure on them as well. There always busy with our restaurant, my dad is the chinese cook there so he works Mon-Sun 11:00am to 1:00am, he gets no breaks whatsoever, and because of this my mom's REALLY stressed out because we have tons of animals that are my little sisters/brother's and they don't take care of them so there always craping everywhere (my siblings want more, so were gonna have a total of 7 dogs and 1 bird...), she does laundry evernight (I offered to learn how to use the washer to help her out a little bit and she flipped eout at my saying stuff about how that's HER washer and noone touches it ever). she's always up till 6 am doing the bookwork for the restaurant and the list goes on, if the slightest thing happens she flipps right out because she's so stressed, she needs to just sit down and relax.
that's why I'd need somewhere virtually close because I don't want to be that much of a burden on my family.
 
I would listen to jaim if I were you. You really need professional counseling. As good as this board is....correct me if I'm wrong....none of us is an expert with this disorder. You need the real deal, not an internet msg board.
 
Paynne said:
I would listen to jaim if I were you. You really need professional counseling. As good as this board is....correct me if I'm wrong....none of us is an expert with this disorder. You need the real deal, not an internet msg board.

definitely agree with this statement. :thumb:
 
I would if I could but like I said it's impossible for me to travel that far...Besdies jaim91 knows what I'm going through and she beat it, so if I'm having a bad day I can talk ot her, she's already helped me out alot, along with you guys
 
I appreciate that tom, I really do. Paynne good point...you're not experts, but I think I speak for Tom when I say that everyone has been so supportive, and I think has helped him in other ways.
 
Exactly, you've all helped me out alot, if I didn't find this board I'd still be eating my usual 1500 calories a day, with no energy, and hating my life cause all I'd do is exercise 24/7
 
lol, ya, that's not a good thing. i mean, it's great that you're doing the 2000 - 2800 thing, that was such an important first step. But there are more (eg. the exercise, the psychotherpy, maybe even family therapy). Another important thing, I learned this the hard way, people are going to say things like, "You look good now", "You look normal, "You gained weight, it looks good." DO NOT TAKE THIS TO MEAN YOU'RE FAT! They think that's what you want to hear, and it should be...but a lot of times, people like you and I misinterpret that.
 
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