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Maybe, maybe not, in some cases yes, others no.

But that's okay because tazors r legal, I just bought a 3.5million volt taser.

Kinky...

I had a friend who bought a stun gun and he tried it on himself over at my house when I was in high school. It instantly dropped him and he was unconscience for about 15 seconds...no bueno.
 
Kinky...

I had a friend who bought a stun gun and he tried it on himself over at my house when I was in high school. It instantly dropped him and he was unconscience for about 15 seconds...no bueno.

Lol
 
Kinky...

I had a friend who bought a stun gun and he tried it on himself over at my house when I was in high school. It instantly dropped him and he was unconscience for about 15 seconds...no bueno.

I bet, I am curious to see what 3.5 million volts can do. lol
 
I bet, I am curious to see what 3.5 million volts can do. lol

Video of you trying it out? I bet saney would volunteer...
 
Why not missiles? No where in the constitution does it say we can't own missiles. If I'm going to protect myself against an oppressive government, I'm surely going to need missiles, particularly nuclear ones.

I believe you're allowed to own missiles subject to certain guidelines. I also don't think there's technically a law prohibiting people from owning nuclear weapons though it would probably violate a treaty or two and they're illegal to import or build.
 
I couldn't tell if he was breathing at first. It was freaky to watch. Stun guns are no joke.

no they aren't. I bought some of the early ones years ago but just recently have picked up a couple of the newer models along with a taser just to have some non-lethal force to use from a distance.

just the sound of it makes my gf almost shit herself, it's pretty funny..LOL
 
I'm voting to make sure they don't disarm us. I'm voting to make sure my representatives know that i have no desire to allow my firearms be taken from me under the guise of legality.

you should do what I have just started to do. bought some 80% AR-15, AR-10 lowers and some 1911 frames and complete them myself. just so there is no record with the ATF of these weapons even being in existence. then they go to a very safe place, just in case.
 
I believe you're allowed to own missiles subject to certain guidelines. I also don't think there's technically a law prohibiting people from owning nuclear weapons though it would probably violate a treaty or two and they're illegal to import or build.

Lol, I'm pretty sure you can't own missiles.

The question is should anyone be allowed to own any weapon they want? Of course not.
There has to be a line drawn somewhere, most just disagree where that point is.
 
I don't think the government has the right to tell me which types of plants I can grow, nor how high my test levels can be and what type of firearm i can own.

fixed.
 
all of you with these liberal views on guns and second amendment are people who have never had there lives depend on having a gun or not. how many of you have been shook down walking to your car, been a victim of a home invasion, etc... every liberal thinks they dont need or want a gun... until they need a gun when it is THEIR life that hangs in the balance. im all for cleaning up the streets and taking guns out of the hands of the wrong people, but that will never happen with out impinging on our rights and taking guns out of the hands of people that need them. next time a criminal is in your home and you're hiding in your closet hoping the police arrive in time, then tell me your liberal view on weapons
 
no they aren't. I bought some of the early ones years ago but just recently have picked up a couple of the newer models along with a taser just to have some non-lethal force to use from a distance.

just the sound of it makes my gf almost shit herself, it's pretty funny..LOL

I'm going to wait till the prices inevitably drop then do the private sale thing. at least utah doesn't get involved in the affairs of private citizens.
 
you should do what I have just started to do. bought some 80% AR-15, AR-10 lowers and some 1911 frames and complete them myself. just so there is no record with the ATF of these weapons even being in existence. then they go to a very safe place, just in case.

I must admit lam. on probably 95% of issues I think you are a complete loon, but I would love to get together shoot the bull and go shooting with you. Kelju I only disagree with 50% of the time, but I'd like to hang out with him as well.
 
no they aren't. I bought some of the early ones years ago but just recently have picked up a couple of the newer models along with a taser just to have some non-lethal force to use from a distance.

just the sound of it makes my gf almost shit herself, it's pretty funny..LOL

No doubt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daAnzArB5UA
 
all of you with these liberal views on guns and second amendment are people who have never had there lives depend on having a gun or not. how many of you have been shook down walking to your car, been a victim of a home invasion, etc... every liberal thinks they dont need or want a gun... until they need a gun when it is THEIR life that hangs in the balance. im all for cleaning up the streets and taking guns out of the hands of the wrong people, but that will never happen with out impinging on our rights and taking guns out of the hands of people that need them. next time a criminal is in your home and you're hiding in your closet hoping the police arrive in time, then tell me your liberal view on weapons

I am not a liberal and I own two guns, now what?
 
assault weapons have their place in the hands of citizens and they have a place in the world of responsible self defense. dont say that there is no reason to have an assault style rifle unless you plan on doing harm with it. there are plenty of applications where a handgun or shotgun is just insufficient and the wrong tool for the job. not to mention there are plenty of people who just own an assault rifle because they shoot for sport and for the fun of it.

it takes anywhere from 4 to 6 well placed hit to stop a determined threat (excluding shots to the head). add drugs to the equation and that number can double. add two threats to the equation and now that number has doubled again. but of course everyone is a professional speed reloader and keeps plenty of magazines at hand :rolleyes: not to mention that a .223 round is actually safer to discharge inside of a house than most common handgun rounds. dont believe me, then look at the ballistic tests on different calibers invloving drywall
 
assault weapons have their place in the hands of citizens and they have a place in the world of responsible self defense. dont say that there is no reason to have an assault style rifle unless you plan on doing harm with it. there are plenty of applications where a handgun or shotgun is just insufficient and the wrong tool for the job. not to mention there are plenty of people who just own an assault rifle because they shoot for sport and for the fun of it.

it takes anywhere from 4 to 6 well placed hit to stop a determined threat (excluding shots to the head). add drugs to the equation and that number can double. add two threats to the equation and now that number has doubled again. but of course everyone is a professional speed reloader and keeps plenty of magazines at hand :rolleyes: not to mention that a .223 round is actually safer to discharge inside of a house than most common handgun rounds. dont believe me, then look at the ballistic tests on different calibers invloving drywall

Yes, it's called being in the military and all you have is your 45 sidearm while you're being shot at with ak47's.

Other than that I don't see any need for a person to own an assault rifle. They're called assault rifles for a reason, and not toys for your hobby.

And that's a false paradigm, it's not a lib or conserv topic, it's a human thing.

And why are all your god fearing christians, catholics and such all for assault weapons or a weapon to kill your fellow man anyway, Jesus didn't carry a piece!
 
Lol, I'm pretty sure you can't own missiles.

The question is should anyone be allowed to own any weapon they want? Of course not.
There has to be a line drawn somewhere, most just disagree where that point is.

I believe you can if the explosive inside are less than a certain amount and probably of certain composition.

Actually the proposition is that assault weapons should be prohibited and the burden of proof is on those pushing that agenda. I'm in no way obligated to defend against strawman arguments or why anyone needs an AR-15, a pistol that weighs over 1.4kg, a shotgun with a pistol grip or whatever silly prohibitions they want to pass.

 
I believe you can if the explosive inside are less than a certain amount and probably of certain composition.

Actually the proposition is that assault weapons should be prohibited and the burden of proof is on those pushing that agenda. I'm in no way obligated to defend against strawman arguments or why anyone needs an AR-15, a pistol that weighs over 1.4kg, a shotgun with a pistol grip or whatever silly prohibitions they want to pass.
exactly. thank you. we don't have to prove need for alcohol, cigarettes, sports cars, cell phones, or any other number products out there. and none of those is protected by constitutional amendment. well, i guess alcohol is now. hahah
 
I agree assault rifles should be regulated an restricted. With that being said my AR-15 is not an assault rifle it is a long rifle. It is registered as a long rifle and also assault rifles are regulated by a class 3 license which is not easy to get. Banning the AR-15 because of what it looks like is fucking retarded. My ranch gun Mini-14 shoots the SAME way as my AR-15 but is not on the ban? As for wanting the tank go for it get the proper license and permits and go get one. One of my neighbours owns a tank not sure which class but he has one. He is a HUGE military historian non of the tanks have active weapon systems but he owns them. Drives them allot of our veterans day parade.

Every city has a shaddy area where you can acquire illegal guns my friend Tony who I have mentioned before about heavy drug use was one of the biggest dealers where I am from (hes recovered and created a non profit to help save lifes and give kids a chance at life) but he use to be able to walk down the street and buy fully auto glocks, AK's, UZI's, MP5's just about any thing for dirt cheap. CA 30 rnd mags are illegal we are subjected to 10rd so tell me why every one owns a 30rd mag lol. Also here AAS is illegal yet EVERY one gets it... So tell me how effective a ban would be? Crime would go up due to black market and people will still get what they want in the long run.
 
but I also agree with the assault weapon ban...now that is really confusing, huh? lol

nothing special there. there are plenty of americans in the same position as you that hold the same as opinions as yourself. people are entitled to an opinion, people arent entitled to create and pass ass backwards legislation that impinges on the rights of those that dont share their opinion however.


an assault weapons ban will never happen again. end of story. hate to rain on everyone's parade.


this debate will go on forever bc nobody will agree. people will justify their opinions no matter what it is. flip a coin, heads im wrong, tails youre wrong..
 
nothing special there. there are plenty of americans in the same position as you that hold the same as opinions as yourself. people are entitled to an opinion, people arent entitled to create and pass ass backwards legislation that impinges on the rights of those that dont share their opinion however.


an assault weapons ban will never happen again. end of story. hate to rain on everyone's parade.


this debate will go on forever bc nobody will agree. people will justify their opinions no matter what it is. flip a coin, heads im wrong, tails youre wrong..

Agreed. A false argument, and it doesn't matter what any of us say. Assault rifles will remain legal and weed/gear will remain illegal.

How abhorrent is that ?
 
all of you with these liberal views on guns and second amendment are people who have never had there lives depend on having a gun or not. how many of you have been shook down walking to your car, been a victim of a home invasion, etc...

being a liberal gun owner and being being ex-SF I know quite a bit about weapons and defensive tactics. and in reality a long gun or rifle is a horrible choice for close distance self defense. you would want something with a short bolt like an Uzi, Mac-10 etc. that have much higher rate of fires and don't have to be aimed. I'm all for the 2nd A but rifles for home defense is laughable for those that do not train to use them as such. shooting a rifle from the hip isn't so easy in a stressful situation is much harder in reality. and in reality there are a lot of people that can get from one side of the room to where you are in a second. the typical "home invasion" and not burglary gone wrong is a planned event with more than 1 perp.
 
being a liberal gun owner and being being ex-SF I know quite a bit about weapons and defensive tactics. and in reality a long gun or rifle is a horrible choice for close distance self defense. you would want something with a short bolt like an Uzi, Mac-10 etc. that have much higher rate of fires and don't have to be aimed. I'm all for the 2nd A but rifles for home defense is laughable for those that do not train to use them as such. shooting a rifle from the hip isn't so easy in a stressful situation is much harder in reality. and in reality there are a lot of people that can get from one side of the room to where you are in a second. the typical "home invasion" and not burglary gone wrong is a planned event with more than 1 perp.

That's why I bought a 12 gauge shotgun. :)
 
being a liberal gun owner and being being ex-SF I know quite a bit about weapons and defensive tactics. and in reality a long gun or rifle is a horrible choice for close distance self defense. you would want something with a short bolt like an Uzi, Mac-10 etc. that have much higher rate of fires and don't have to be aimed. I'm all for the 2nd A but rifles for home defense is laughable for those that do not train to use them as such. shooting a rifle from the hip isn't so easy in a stressful situation is much harder in reality. and in reality there are a lot of people that can get from one side of the room to where you are in a second. the typical "home invasion" and not burglary gone wrong is a planned event with more than 1 perp.

I ran many CQB missions with an A4 Carbine and NEVER put my gun on 3rd burst. All ways kept it on semi... an AR with a 16 inch barrel eotech and surefire light is a VERY effective home defence gun. You shoot a pistol your not going to be able to squeez another round fast unless your great at a double tap there is a longer delay between shots where a AR there is little to no recoil. A shotgun is great too but I would rather not fuck up my home more then it needs to be lol. But i do keep a 870 with 2 00 buck and rest slugs under my bed at night, a glock and AR also in hands reach. a MAC 10 is a HORRIBLE gun for home defence have you ever shot one? You will be lucky to only hit what your aiming at the bullet spread is ridiculous. I do believe though that the greatest thing any one can own is a surefire flash light. All my friends buy these guns for home defence, how the hell are they going to shoot in the dark. lol are they going to turn on all the lights in the house hahah. If you dont own one get one.

as for them coming in fast thats what alarms are set for, its smart to own a home alarm and a dog. If any thing gets opened up my alarm will go off in a heart beat and if that doesnt wake them up my two pitts will... Well one of them will go after the other will try to play tug a war with them or fetch. There is no better home defence then a 100lbs pissed off dog.
 
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