atheist and proud

[BillHicksFan]

I've only ever seen rainbows, auras, colours, surfaces breathing, geometrical patterns while shutting my eyes, faces morphing and decomposing and a kaleidoscope that's has the potential to communicate.

It wasn't until I experienced it that I researched it and found it to be common be very specific to my experience.

I'm just expiring ideas with an open mind.

 

[exphys88]

I've only ever seen rainbows, auras, colours, surfaces breathing, geometrical patterns while shutting my eyes, faces morphing and decomposing and a kaleidoscope that's has the potential to communicate.

It wasn't until I experienced it that I researched it and found it to be common be very specific to my experience.

I'm just expiring ideas with an open mind.

Those are exactly the things that I see. Plus lots of hysterical laughter. The geometrical patterns are more common w acid though.

 

[BillHicksFan]

Would you say the same thing about a schizophrenic who hears voices? A lot if this just sounds like Mumbo jumbo, and really just sounds like sime ideas that are thrown around regarding the mind and hallucinations. If its just happening in his mind, then it's a hallucination and not real.
I remember frying on acid and mushrooms and while walking through the woods my buddy starts to throw up violently for about 10 minutes, then was fine. He's a very religious Christian and to this day swears that he was exorcising a demon. Obviously I think he's an idiot, and try to convince him that maybe it was the 8th of mushrooms and the acid that had something to do with it, but he won't accept it. I don't buy that just because he thinks it was a demon automatically makes it a demon. His intelligence is restrained by his religiousness and nothing else.

Taking into consideration that a bat or a dolphin have a completely different state of consciousness than you do, does that make it any less real?

As humans, we have our own version of what real is and although it's very real to us, it does not represent reality as a majority.

As for your christian friend i feel that beliefs are overated. That's something I have against both religions and the material views of science. Though I do respect the atheist point of view very much. Science is based on rational thought however science stop where consciousness and quantum physics begins and they need to acknowledge this as opposed to ignoring the fundamental problems it poses.


As far as the schizophrenic who hears voices is concerned, if he is genuinley hearing those voices then that's his personal reality. They would no doubt be a product if his own mind however that doesn't make then any less real to him.

 

[BillHicksFan]

I've only ever seen rainbows, auras, colours, surfaces breathing, geometrical patterns while shutting my eyes, faces morphing and decomposing and a kaleidoscope that's has the potential to communicate.

It wasn't until I experienced it that I researched it and found it to be common be very specific to my experience.

I'm just expiring ideas with an open mind.

Damn predictive text!

 

[KelJu]

Would you say the same thing about a schizophrenic who hears voices? A lot if this just sounds like Mumbo jumbo, and really just sounds like sime ideas that are thrown around regarding the mind and hallucinations. If its just happening in his mind, then it's a hallucination and not real.
I remember frying on acid and mushrooms and while walking through the woods my buddy starts to throw up violently for about 10 minutes, then was fine. He's a very religious Christian and to this day swears that he was exorcising a demon. Obviously I think he's an idiot, and try to convince him that maybe it was the 8th of mushrooms and the acid that had something to do with it, but he won't accept it. I don't buy that just because he thinks it was a demon automatically makes it a demon. His intelligence is restrained by his religiousness and nothing else.

Before I started taking medication for bi-polar disorder, I would have manic attacks that would keep me up for days. Around the third or forth day, I would hear voices and other auditory hallucinations like phones ringing.

There was never anything of content. No voice ever told me to do anything. Now that I think about it, no voice ever actually addressed me personally. It was more or less just people having conversations about bullshit in the room for which nobody existed but me. It was more of a nuisance than anything else.

I believe that the voices were manifested by me, and since I had no strong beliefs about god, the voices took the form just annoying people having conversations right next to me while I try to sleep. If I had stronger beliefs about God, perhaps the voices would have took the form of angels, demons, or some other bullshit.

The experience left me to believe that 99% of religion was built upon mental illness, and not the divine power of god.

 

[Chubby]

Before I started taking medication for bi-polar disorder, I would have manic attacks that would keep me up for days. Around the third or forth day, I would hear voices and other auditory hallucinations like phones ringing.

There was never anything of content. No voice ever told me to do anything. Now that I think about it, no voice ever actually addressed me personally. It was more or less just people having conversations about bullshit in the room for which nobody existed but me. It was more of a nuisance than anything else.

I believe that the voices were manifested by me, and since I had no strong beliefs about god, the voices took the form just annoying people having conversations right next to me while I try to sleep. If I had stronger beliefs about God, perhaps the voices would have took the form of angels, demons, or some other bullshit.

The experience left me to believe that 99% of religion was built upon mental illness, and not the divine power of god.

Not that I believe in god, but, what if your experience was a just a delusion? The man called Gautama found out how human mind works more than 2500 years ago. But scientists are still trying to figure out how it works.

 

[Chubby]

It was only atheists mocking ol' grins? I'm pretty sure secdri has professed faith in a god some where on here before. He was the op remember? You seem like someone holding onto a christian misnomer about atheism: Without God there is only chaos and hedonism. You also said you believe in humanism, which is essentially secular morality. You've argued against yourself.

In my eyes, both religious people and atheists are humans. When one human mistreats other human, I have to speak up. Secdri is anything but a follower of god. Judge him by his action, not by his words.

 

[MDR]

These are invented words that I saw people using them to discribe some religious extremist on some other forum. Here are some more example of invented words to discribe extremist: Soup Nazi, moral nazi, grammar nazi and etc.

There are rotten tomatoes in every religion and societies. I am not saying all the atheists are extremist.

Bullshit. You stated clearly that the word Taliban=extremist. It does not. Then you equated the Taliban to Atheism. Glad to hear that is not what you meant to say, but it is exactly what you said.

 

[KelJu]

Not that I believe in god, but, what if your experience was a just a delusion? The man called Gautama found out how human mind works more than 2500 years ago. But scientists are still trying to figure out how it works.

Are you retarded? The whole post was about sleep delirium and the fact that it was all created by my own mind.

 

[Vibrant]

Are you retarded? The whole post was about sleep delirium and the fact that it was all created by my own mind.

no, i dont think she is completely retarded. she does try to make herself look smart by trying to post intelligent arguments but she fails because she doesnt understand what the fuck she's posting and what the discussion is about.

 

[DOMS]

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[Vibrant]

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[Chubby]

no, i dont think she is completely retarded. she does try to make herself look smart by trying to post intelligent arguments but she fails because she doesnt understand what the fuck she's posting and what the discussion is about.

I am not trying to be intelligent. I consider myself an imperfect person, who has lots of room for improvement. That is why I try to keep myself open to both religious and non-religious people. Maybe it is you, closed minded man, who thinks only things that can be touched of seen exist and nothing else. Some things can't be proven in physical forms but can be understood and experienced only by open minded people.

 

[Chubby]

Bullshit. You stated clearly that the word Taliban=extremist. It does not. Then you equated the Taliban to Atheism. Glad to hear that is not what you meant to say, but it is exactly what you said.

Do you think these extremist atheists in this forum have long beard and they wear rag on their head?

 

[troubador]

I am not trying to be intelligent. I consider myself an imperfect person, who has lots of room for improvement. That is why I try to keep myself open to both religious and non-religious people. Maybe it is you, closed minded man, who thinks only things that can be touched of seen exist and nothing else. Some things can't be proven in physical forms but can be understood and experienced only by open minded people.

Believing in shit that isn't real and using poor logic does not make you open minded or if it does, then being open minded is not a merit.

 

[MDR]

Do you think these extremist atheists in this forum have long beard and they wear rag on their head?

I think you just don't have a clue, and that your posts reflect that fact.

 

[dgp]

Do you think these extremist atheists in this forum have long beard and they wear rag on their head?

I don’t understand the label ”extremist atheists?" I don’t consider myself as an extremist. I don’t go door to door giving out bibles and try to convert people from their uncivilized ways, and try to save their wicked souls, and convert them to a Christian life. I consider that to be extremist. I consider invading country after country to be extremist. (There is historical fact to that one) History has shown a pattern of what I see as extremist. That has been the Christian way for many years, convert the wicked or death to those who don’t follow.

 

[blazeftp]

You mean about you? Probably nobody.

No my angry little friend...about the deities.

 

[Chubby]

I don???t understand the label ???extremist atheists?" I don???t consider myself as an extremist. I don???t go door to door giving out bibles and try to convert people from their uncivilized ways, and try to save their wicked souls, and convert them to a Christian life. I consider that to be extremist. I consider invading country after country to be extremist. (There is historical fact to that one) History has shown a pattern of what I see as extremist. That has been the Christian way for many years, convert the wicked or death to those who don???t follow.

There are extremists in all religions and among atheists too. If you started this thread, then you are also an extremist in my book. How can you say religions have no place in society? May be you should have said that any form of extremist has no place in society. It would have made a lot more sense than what you said.

 

[troubador]

May be you should have said that any form of extremist has no place in society. It would have made a lot more sense than what you said.

Sounds kind of extreme to me.

 

[Chubby]

I get mad at both religious and non-religious extremists. But I don't hate them. They are both imperfect humans, who failed to see the whole picture.

 

[MDR]

No my angry little friend...about the deities.

Thanks for adding your opinion. Since your last post just said simply who gives a shit, I'm sure you can understand why someone might be confused by your comment. Since I don't believe in any deities, I can actually relate to your point now that you've actually made one.

 

[dgp]

 

[blazeftp]

Thanks for adding your opinion. Since your last post just said simply who gives a shit, I'm sure you can understand why someone might be confused by your comment. Since I don't believe in any deities, I can actually relate to your point now that you've actually made one.

Sorry about the misunderstanding friend. Glad we have an understanding. Thanks God....See what i did there ?

 

[rzrbak]

The experience left me to believe that 99% of religion was built upon mental illness, and not the divine power of god.[/QUOTE]


???The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive.???
― Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation

 

[exphys88]

The experience left me to believe that 99% of religion was built upon mental illness, and not the divine power of god.

???The president of the United States has claimed, on more than one occasion, to be in dialogue with God. If he said that he was talking to God through his hairdryer, this would precipitate a national emergency. I fail to see how the addition of a hairdryer makes the claim more ridiculous or offensive.???
― Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation[/QUOTE]
That's a great book!

 

[fitter420]

Would you say the same thing about a schizophrenic who hears voices? A lot if this just sounds like Mumbo jumbo, and really just sounds like sime ideas that are thrown around regarding the mind and hallucinations. If its just happening in his mind, then it's a hallucination and not real.
I remember frying on acid and mushrooms and while walking through the woods my buddy starts to throw up violently for about 10 minutes, then was fine. He's a very religious Christian and to this day swears that he was exorcising a demon. Obviously I think he's an idiot, and try to convince him that maybe it was the 8th of mushrooms and the acid that had something to do with it, but he won't accept it. I don't buy that just because he thinks it was a demon automatically makes it a demon. His intelligence is restrained by his religiousness and nothing else.

Wow,with a post like that(frying on acid with your buddy)I am going to take
"anything" you say seriously.

 

[exphys88]

Wow,with a post like that(frying on acid with your buddy)I am going to take
"anything" you say seriously.

Actually I was on acid and mushrooms. What's your point? I've done all sorts of hallucinogens and I smoke weed regularly, w a Dr. Prescription. You believe in virgin births and people walking on water, so your obviously so retarded and stupid that you don't know basic biology or physics. Here's some more: the sun is older than the earth (bible got this wrong too), there was no ark, a human can't part seas, and Jesus is not going to float down on a cloud and rapture you and your retarded Christian friends.
It seems like I have my very own retarded Christian troll that likes to follow me around and harass me. You should try to be more Christ like since you claim to be a Christian.

 

[BillHicksFan]

Wow,with a post like that(frying on acid with your buddy)I am going to take
"anything" you say seriously.

Jesus would have been far better off turning the old testament into blotter paper. Now that would have been a miracle.

 

[dgp]

"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."
Napoleon Bonaparte