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Belt to keep the waist narrow??

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Weight Belt Adominal Activation

A weight belt is used to stabilize the lower back. To do that, that abdominals are pushed into the front of the belt.

Pushing the abdominal into the belt provides intra-abdominal pressure, IAP. This pressure stabilizes the spine.

Isometric Abdominal Action

Pushing into the belt with the abdominals is an isomtric action. The abdominals need to be driven hard into the belt.

Thus, the abdominals are worked with a belt but differently.

An electromyographic analysis of sumo and conventional style deadlifts.
An electromyographic analysis of sumo a... [Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2002] - PubMed - NCBI

"Compared with the no-belt condition, the belt condition produced significantly greater rectus abdominis activity and significantly less external oblique activity."

Kenny Croxdale

Stop with the copy paste..... We all have google too.
 
The rectus abdominis, probably contrary to popular belief, is not a vital core muscle as far as stabiliy is concerned. Actually, the external obliques are more important, as are the multifidi and diaphragm. It is these muscles which, when weak, put one at a greater risk for injury. In fact, a mulititude of studies show a strong correlation between low back pain patients and the weak afforementioned musculature. The rectus abdominis may be the "prettiest" muscle of the midsection, but speaking from a functional standpoint, it is nowhere near as important as many of the others.

The obliques play a role in maintaining core stability. Even more important are the transversus abdominis with heavy movements such as the squat, deadlift, etc.

The valsalva mechanism insures spine stability with heavy movemements. The synergistic action of all of the trunk mucles promotes a neutral spine position.

The point remains that the core muscles are engaged when wearing a belt. Again, some are engange more and some less.

Best Ab Exercises
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Bret Contreras' article provide some interesting data on which abdominal exercises work what.

Kenny Croxdale
 
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The obliques play a role in maintaining core stability. Even more important are the transversus abdominis with heavy movements such as the squat, deadlift, etc.

The valsalva mechanism insures spine stability with heavy movemements. The synergistic action of all of the trunk mucles promotes a neutral spine position.

The point remains that the core muscles are engaged when wearing a belt. Again, some are engange more and some less.

Best Ab Exercises
T NATION | Issue 627

Bret Contreras' article provide some interesting data on which abdominal exercises work what.

Kenny Croxdale

I know all of that. I don't disagree with it either. Sure the muscles are engaged both WITH a belt on and with a belt off. But this doesn't begin to answer my previous concern that it may weaken core musculature to a degree. Of course they are active when wearing a belt. There almost is never a time when any particular muscle is not active to some degree save REM sleep. It's not about muscles being active. Well I mean sure it is to some degree with regards to the amount of total myofibril activity, but the firing of fibers in optimal synchronousity with regards to their patterning is what determines an optimal firing pattern. I admit that I could be wrong that a belt doesnt lead to a weak core. Though to me it would be odd to me if it didnt at least to some degree. At any rate, stating that the muscles are firing when a belt is being worn doesnt determine anything without knowledge of the correct firing ratios and patterning leading to optimal stability.
 
I hate this thread...it is a fat dude that wont workout or diet trying to find a way besides work that will shrink his gut...I hate my fat too...but it lives on me till I get on the treadmill....there just aint no other way

1. Fuck off and read my posts. Once you read them, try to comprehend them.
2. I have been dieting, and working out when I'm not preoccupied working. As of Saturday I was tipping the scales just under 244.
3. If you were too lazy or illiterate to complete number one, here's a recap: this dude always boasts about how the belt keeps him tight in the stomach, I don't buy it, nor am I going to try it, jfc look at how low his bf is, you REALLY think I'd try that? That's kinda sad.
 
I read that on his facebook too. The guy knows his stuff....but this i don't believe.
 
I read that on his facebook too. The guy knows his stuff....but this i don't believe.

You know the dude I'm talkin about?

He's normally got solid advice.. But this? :no:
 
and plenty of knowledgable people believe the belt thing for diff reasons...and a lot of them look way beter than me...and def better than you
 
and plenty of knowledgable people believe the belt thing for diff reasons...and a lot of them look way beter than me...and def better than you

Thanks for the insight, captain obvious.
 
Yeah I no this guy to, He does have some solid advice and seems very knowledgable. But I'm going to stay fat and not wear a belt.
 
Yeah I no this guy to, He does have some solid advice and seems very knowledgable. But I'm going to stay fat and not wear a belt.

I'm with you lol
 
Lmao no shit?

I read what this dude wrote and it just seemed off. Wanted to bounce it off everyone here

look at the lats on that guy, a V-shape like that makes anybody's waist look narrow. that's the whole point of building a large upper back, it's all part of the illusion created by having good symmetry.

for the most part you only "need" a belt when training with loads above 85% of the 1RM. using a belt when it's not needed only helps to create a weak link in the lower lumbar.
 
I always use a weight belt when I lift. Same with wrist straps and knee wraps. In my mind, these things help prevent freak injuries and ensure that you are stabalized especially when performing heavy movements such as squats, bench, bent / t-bar rows, deadlifts.

To hell with what people think. Everyone is an individual and certain things work for some, but not others.

What you need to do is find out what works for you and go with it. That is the great thing about this sport. It is an individual sport where the little things you do are the difference between success and failure.
 
I always use a weight belt when I lift. Same with wrist straps and knee wraps. In my mind, these things help prevent freak injuries and ensure that you are stabalized especially when performing heavy movements such as squats, bench, bent / t-bar rows, deadlifts.

what your doing is creating a mental road block for yourself by relying on training aids that are not needed all the time. try lifting with out your aids and see at what level of intensity you can train at. there's nothing new about any of that equipment, it's all been around and in use for about 70 years now.

in resistance training injury occurs mainly via 1 of 2 ways:

1). when weight is substituted for form
2). severe muscle imbalances
 
Do vacuum sucks and eat healthy that will keep your waist narrow.
 
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