Pika
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Ok guys i have tub of p mag and im about to use it as my strenge just wont go up! Im 180bls and only lefting 60kg only 6 to 8 reps 
whys this?
whys this?
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Benching only 60kg ... Help :(
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LightBearer
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what are your stats? age weight bodyfat estimate training history?
and whats your diet like
and whats your diet like
Pika
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Well im 21 and been at gym 6 months but been doing weight at home for 8 month so just over a year....bf unkwon but i have before and after picz ... Im 180bls 5,7 My diet is good well ok atleast...
9am 5 eggs 3 weetabix
12 tunna with past
2pm gym til 3 then shake
5 pm 2 chiicken fittets with pasta
8pm 1 chicken fillet with veg
10 pm xottage cheese with beans
Also i take 3 to 4 shakes on top of that i train 4 days aweek
9am 5 eggs 3 weetabix
12 tunna with past
2pm gym til 3 then shake
5 pm 2 chiicken fittets with pasta
8pm 1 chicken fillet with veg
10 pm xottage cheese with beans
Also i take 3 to 4 shakes on top of that i train 4 days aweek
Pika
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Look, you've obviously made progress in both your size and your strength. Don't be hard on yourself.
The only three things you need to get stronger are:
Hard Work
Food
Time
Thats it. Work hard and eat a lot over an extended period of time. We're not talking weeks or months, we're talking years. Decades even. Strength is built up slowly. Give yourself a break, keep training hard, keep eating well. In 12 months you'll be benching more than you do now.
Some things you CAN do now:
- Fix your technique. The EliteFTS "So you think you can bench?" videos and articles are priceless information. They do the same series for other lifts, so check them out too.
- Change your program. Though there is no "magic" program (and in fact, it really doesn't matter what program you do - just so long as you work hard on it for a few months) a change of pace will probably help move things along. Starting Strength is a great one, The Texas Method is another. I recommend one of those two for your experience level.
- Cut down your shakes and eat more food. Where are your carbs and fats!?! I see a hell of a lot of protein, probably too much protein in fact, but a relatively low amount of carbs and basically no fat whatsoever. If you're trying to put on weight those things are what you need most, not protein. So long as you get 150-180g at your bodyweight thats fine. Shoot for 200g to be on the safe side. Fat is just a huge time saver and makes it a doddle to get your calories in.
The only three things you need to get stronger are:
Hard Work
Food
Time
Thats it. Work hard and eat a lot over an extended period of time. We're not talking weeks or months, we're talking years. Decades even. Strength is built up slowly. Give yourself a break, keep training hard, keep eating well. In 12 months you'll be benching more than you do now.
Some things you CAN do now:
- Fix your technique. The EliteFTS "So you think you can bench?" videos and articles are priceless information. They do the same series for other lifts, so check them out too.
- Change your program. Though there is no "magic" program (and in fact, it really doesn't matter what program you do - just so long as you work hard on it for a few months) a change of pace will probably help move things along. Starting Strength is a great one, The Texas Method is another. I recommend one of those two for your experience level.
- Cut down your shakes and eat more food. Where are your carbs and fats!?! I see a hell of a lot of protein, probably too much protein in fact, but a relatively low amount of carbs and basically no fat whatsoever. If you're trying to put on weight those things are what you need most, not protein. So long as you get 150-180g at your bodyweight thats fine. Shoot for 200g to be on the safe side. Fat is just a huge time saver and makes it a doddle to get your calories in.
Pika
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Wow seems like you know your stuff... Wel fats? I mean i eat like chocs and steak and stuff here and there? Im going shoping monday so what ya think i should be looking at? Also what about this p mag bro? I brought it lol have it on my shelf lol its soo tepemting to do a cycle if it ? Thsnks
The hell is p mag?
I mean fats - food with fat in it. Whole milk, nuts, olive oil, cheese. To a certain extent beef instead of chicken. Thats just the good stuff. Throw in some cookies or doughnuts or something too. We're talking every day with all this stuff - nuts you can snack on, have a pint of milk with every meal, put 2tbsp of olive oil in each shake, and cheese is good to melt on things. Cookies are for dessert
How many calories does your diet add up to right now? No guesses. If you don't know go to FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal and find out. If you do three days in detail (weight of food etc) you'll get a good enough picture of your diet.
I mean fats - food with fat in it. Whole milk, nuts, olive oil, cheese. To a certain extent beef instead of chicken. Thats just the good stuff. Throw in some cookies or doughnuts or something too. We're talking every day with all this stuff - nuts you can snack on, have a pint of milk with every meal, put 2tbsp of olive oil in each shake, and cheese is good to melt on things. Cookies are for dessert
How many calories does your diet add up to right now? No guesses. If you don't know go to FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal and find out. If you do three days in detail (weight of food etc) you'll get a good enough picture of your diet.
Pika
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Wow ok bro i mean i love cookies and cheese and stuff i drink loads milk i do est like that asell but im going to check how much now.... P mag is a ph ( prohornmone )
Pika
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4370 cals bro .. Thsts alpt lol
D-Lats
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Not this guy again! Hey pika you fight your cousin yet? I thought you where going to wait a year before you did any hormones? But you are doing them to protect your family right?
D-Lats
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Ps turn on spell check bro
If you're eating that many calories on a regular basis just replace some of your protein with more carbs and a little fat. Shoot for 4.5k, and just have patience.
Do the other things i mentioned like improving technique, changing your program etc. You don't need a prohormone, you just need to wait.
Do the other things i mentioned like improving technique, changing your program etc. You don't need a prohormone, you just need to wait.
Thanks for replying, everyone. It appears we have a decent cross-section of people here and a lot of well thought-out discussion
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Pika
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No lol i aint had a fight qith him haa..... I said il wait yes but have p mag on my shelf lol its hard ha. Ok bro il try more carbs if i get up to 80kg id be happy ha 
Gaz is correct. These things take time.
Here's something else; I have a hockey player for a client who needs to get to a certain weight by August, otherwise he wont be able to get into the NHL. He's gaining, but has slowed. I found about two weeks ago that he started slacking off with not eating correctly, not showing up on time (being on time is a major thing to me-it shows dedication to get the job done no matter what), and just staying out late and not getting enough rest.
My point is, you NEED to be consistent, get ample amounts of rest, eat the right foods-even some of the wrong foods and finally, just be aware of how you feel. If you slack off, get bored or feel tired, it might be a good idea to rest or deload and to also change your routine to inject some excitement, try new foods, change things until they wont work anymore. And technique is incredibly important! You need to be certain you're hitting the muscles the way you need to hit.
What's your current routine look like? What's your goal?
Here's something else; I have a hockey player for a client who needs to get to a certain weight by August, otherwise he wont be able to get into the NHL. He's gaining, but has slowed. I found about two weeks ago that he started slacking off with not eating correctly, not showing up on time (being on time is a major thing to me-it shows dedication to get the job done no matter what), and just staying out late and not getting enough rest.
My point is, you NEED to be consistent, get ample amounts of rest, eat the right foods-even some of the wrong foods and finally, just be aware of how you feel. If you slack off, get bored or feel tired, it might be a good idea to rest or deload and to also change your routine to inject some excitement, try new foods, change things until they wont work anymore. And technique is incredibly important! You need to be certain you're hitting the muscles the way you need to hit.
What's your current routine look like? What's your goal?
Pika
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My goal? To be big around 200bls lean would be good for me i mean like in them pics i have gone bigger strench marks all over my body lol hate um... But feel stuck at 60kg its anoyin because everythin eles is going up .... I was going to run a cycle its on my shelf but again i dnt wanna mess up what i got lllol
Pika, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say, as in, I cant understand what you're writing. However, post your routine as I mentioned before and we can take a look at it. 200lbs is not too hard to accomplish if you're doing everything correctly.
Pika
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Sorry bro im on iphone .... I workout 4days aweek i do chest , tri/bi , legs, shoukders , cardio... I eat alot lol loads chicken beans , past before workout , tuna , steak, loads of water eggs jucie and fat foods aswell cookies and stuff lol ... Im not a pro at all dnt try to be i asked diffrent things and people on this site hace helped me loads .... Somtimes they feel like i though it back in there face by asking same thing diffrent way but i do not mean 2 , i train alone so its hard to know realy i normaly on the free weights but going on the mashine bench as i cant push my self while im alone ... Thanks
Pika
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Again spelling aint good... I cant spell that good sorry lol
Try negatives an resistant band for your bench when you hit platues . One week do dumbbells then the next week do straight bar . Change your workouts around start with incline first or start with decline etc . Change your reps up do 2 weeks of 6 reps , then 8 reps etc . Change your rest time take a little longer break . Its the littlest things that could make that difference to help you succeed . Best of luck !!
Bobby, I have to disagree here. In strength training and pretty much anything strength related, if your routine isn't established or is all over the board with no clear cut decision in which path to go, you're not going to improve as well as you could if you have some sort of direction. Clearly, bands will not do much in this case.
My suggestion is to try something that we all know if effective and definitively simple for growth and strength enhancement. Pika, google the 20 rep squat routine. Several of my clients are on it, and everyone of them has seen improvement. If you need help with a setup, let me know.
My other suggestion is to absolutely make sure you're doing all of the exercises correctly in terms of technique as Gaz has stated.
Its in these cases that you see the clear cut differences between training for strength and training for hypertrophy beyond all the basic rep range stuff.
HYPERTROPHY:
-High Volume in terms of sets + reps.
-A large variety of exercises to stimulate the most fibres possible. Usually changed or modified often.
-Isolation exercises to improve small details/accentuate the most visible muscles.
-Constant variation within a program to avoid adaptation and stagnant growth.
STRENGTH:
-Clearly split into main work (high volume sets, low reps) and accessory (high volume for both).
-Main exercises rarely changed, and if changed are limited in variety and cycled on a regular basis.
-Accessory work targetted on weaknesses in main exercises.
-Variation included only when needed to promote 100% familiarity and mastery of technique. Otherwise usually linear progression, in some form.
HYPERTROPHY:
-High Volume in terms of sets + reps.
-A large variety of exercises to stimulate the most fibres possible. Usually changed or modified often.
-Isolation exercises to improve small details/accentuate the most visible muscles.
-Constant variation within a program to avoid adaptation and stagnant growth.
STRENGTH:
-Clearly split into main work (high volume sets, low reps) and accessory (high volume for both).
-Main exercises rarely changed, and if changed are limited in variety and cycled on a regular basis.
-Accessory work targetted on weaknesses in main exercises.
-Variation included only when needed to promote 100% familiarity and mastery of technique. Otherwise usually linear progression, in some form.
well put gaz
For my experiences those things a stated above helped me to over come platues in everything . Shocking the body from going heavy to light in the same month from 6 reps to up to 15 ( high as i go ) your body should then be able to improve . Like i said above IT worked for me so i just figured to help the kid out . I see it as showing the kid different types of methods to help him achieve his goal an to over come his platue .
Pika
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Ho guys just got on, thanks so much for the help but im now lifting 80kg lmao?? Dont ask me how but i am i was so close to do a p mag cycle i still am but yh strenges going up and feeling good thanks tho you realy no yr shit bro..... Any1 tryed p mag?
Pika how old are you?
oh snap
