best 4 or 5week cycle?

[drow]

hey everyone, im just looking for some info on a good 4-5 week cycle. i am currently finishing up a cutting cycle now and and lookin to start a mini bulk cycle starting the 1st of november and just want to run it til the end of november so i can run a good pct in december and by beginning of january be back to normal as that is when i go to basic training.

i was thinkin of running a test prop cycle since its a short ester but as i have never ran any injection cycles, i dont want my first one to be EOD injections. would it be better if i just ran a 4-5 week cycle of Tbol or Dbol? i have only ran orals in the past so i was thinkin of jus doin a quick oral cycle before basic and saving the pinning until next summer.

my past cycles have just been clen/t3 and hdrol. never had signs of gyno and even though hdrol was a mild PH i still ran nolva post cycle to be safe.

my stats:
23yrs old
5'9
190lbs (currently tryin to cut/recomp to 180 before bulking)
been training since high school but high school lifting was more of light lifting as i played baseball and then when i went to college i started getting serious but mainly the past 3-4years have been serious lifting. i have a hard time putting on size but my strength gains have always been good for my size. body fat % im unsure of but you can see my abs coming thru i just have the bottom stomach fat which im tryin to lose in these next 3weeks.
im open to all advice which is why im on this forum is to learn much as i can before i run anything else. not sure if i could see a good quick 4-5week bulk cycle or if i should just wait til after basic. i just figured a good quick bulk would be nice before basic as im going to end up cutting up from basic and losing some muscle anyway. thanks in advance

 

[Digitalash]

For a cycle that short test prop/TNE will pretty much be your only option. Make sure you read up on AI's though as you've never used one before, pct will be basically the same as a ph cycle.

500mg test prop per week
40mg dbol a day
.25-.5mg arimidex per day

Wouldn't suggest any other compounds since you've never used test, but that should still net you some decent gains in 5 weeks or so. Not optimal of course but I'm sure you know that already.

 

[EATSCHILDREN]

I'd say hold off, 5 weeks is too short for much of a bulker IMO. Your first injectable cycle should be with long esters. Pinning ed is not recommended for beginners. I'd wait until you can run ~12 weeks for a solid bulker.

 

[sofargone561]

I'd say hold off, 5 weeks is too short for much of a bulker IMO. Your first injectable cycle should be with long esters. Pinning ed is not recommended for beginners. I'd wait until you can run ~12 weeks for a solid bulker.

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[EATSCHILDREN]

If you are gonna run one digitalash has a good layout for you there. Keep test around 500mg/week. Combining prop and tne would be fun for sure. Might as well throw in some injectable dbol haha. Definitely have an AI on hand those compounds will blow you up.

 

[EATSCHILDREN]

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[sofargone561]

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[drow]

yeah i think i will have to wait to run injectables till a later time cause i figured 5weeks isnt even worth it as most people dont start gettin the great pumps til around that time. would an oral tbol or dbol 4-5week cycle be worth it? i heard some good things bout dbol and tbol bein ran solo as its your diet that is that gives the most results and my eating is very clean. but ive heard mixed reviews on dbol/tbol only cycles. like i heard on dbol u lose most of your gains even with a good pct. any input on runnin a dbol/tbol only oral cycle?

 

[Jt123]

I have a friend who finished a 5 week cycle of dbol only at 40mg and had phenomenal gains. He gained 14lbs and is two weeks into nolva and clomid and has only lost 1 pound. He ran aromasin during cycle so he wasn't retaining much water.

 

[romemachine250]

They suggest you only run orals like tbol or dbol 6 weeks. Or else it could be very toxic to your digestive system. That would work out ok if you cuz it short a week or two. It's funny you posted this because I also leave for basic training in January. I'm starting my last test cycle tomorrow hopefully.

 

[drow]

I have a friend who finished a 5 week cycle of dbol only at 40mg and had phenomenal gains. He gained 14lbs and is two weeks into nolva and clomid and has only lost 1 pound. He ran aromasin during cycle so he wasn't retaining much water.

ya i was thinkin somethin like that, i was thinkin of jus runnin 30mg tho. and i got nolva but i gotta do a little research to see what else i would have to run with it. thats why i was thinkin of runnin tbol since its more mild and i would just run nolva after.

and rome thats awesome haha

 

[Jt123]

Tbol would probably be better because it doesn't aromatize but I would run Tbol for 6 weeks because alot of people say it's slow and steady gains the whole time. Similar to dbol with an AI

 

[drow]

Tbol would probably be better because it doesn't aromatize but I would run Tbol for 6 weeks because alot of people say it's slow and steady gains the whole time. Similar to dbol with an AI

ya im thinkin of runnin tbol, i was jus hoping some people who have ran oral tbol only cycles would chime in with experience and what i could expect in 5-6 weeks of tbol

 

[Jt123]

Yeah I don't know anybody personally who has ran Tbol solo. I know people who ran haladrol solo with good gains. It's suppose to be a precursor to Tbol but I'm sure Tbol is much better...here's some options
1-6 Tbol 50mg
1-6 dbol 30mg (with an AI)
1-6 winny or var 50mg
All options should deliver dry lean gains.

 

[romemachine250]

and rome thats awesome haha

Hey bro it wont let me do this over pms cuz im a noob haha. But I just joined the army national guard. I'll be leaving for basics at fort Jackson the same day. Looks like we'll be goin through it together haha

 

[drow]

Hey bro it wont let me do this over pms cuz im a noob haha. But I just joined the army national guard. I'll be leaving for basics at fort Jackson the same day. Looks like we'll be goin through it together haha

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[pieguy]

You can run test prop solo for 5 weeks if you run it at a higher dosage and frontload. Add in dbol. In the first 5 weeks, i'm already up nearly 20 lbs but it's my first run with AAS. I assume maybe 2-3lbs if fat, 5-7 lbs is water and the rest is mass. If you can make 10 lbs in 5 weeks and keep it after PCT, you're golden.

Week 1: 300mg eod test prop, 50mg dbol
Week 2-5: 200mg eod, 50mg dbol
Week 1-5: aromasin 12.5mg ed

 

[GMO]

Honestly, I wouldn't waste my time with only a 4-5 week cycle, but if someone put a gun to my head and made me...I would run Test Suspension and Anadrol.

 

[drow]

i was gonna run prop but as a newb to pinning i feel like that wouldnt be a good first cycle cause of frequent injections. i might run a test susp/dbol after basic. if anything it might be a good time to run it since i will lose muscle during those few months and my bodyfat should be extremely low so that would be a good time to run the cycle. thanks for all the input. guess ill just do more research and decide what test i want to run and what to run with. i was thinkin test sus 250(2x a week)/dbol for a first cycle. any thought on that and should i run the test 12 weeks?

 

[Digitalash]

sust should be pinned more frequently than that due to the short esters in it, if you want to pin 2x a week use cyp or enanthate. But yes 12 weeks of test kickstarted with dbol is a good cycle.

 

[romemachine250]

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haha thanks bro. i hit ya up too