Better lifts without warm-up????

[Plataeu]

Today after very long time i had the best workout .....bit confused, later it came to me that I missed the warm-up completely !!

But I was able to do complete sets with higher weights. Got the best pumped feeling after very long time.

So is it ok if i skip the warm-up and directly move on to weights?

Also other change was that after almost 2 months (I gave up coffee but sometimes I take it , but never exceed 1 cup per day previously it was 4 - 6 cups a day) I has a strong coffee before leaving for gym. I am considering adding instant coffee to my pre-workout drink...if its OK i mean.

My pre-workout drink is, (1 Hour prior to gym)

Creatine 5 Grams (Super Creatine - APN Brand)

Glutamine 5 Grams (All Max)

Electral (Oral Hydrating Salts mainly Sodium + Potassium + Chloride + Citrate + Dextrose) It says based on W.H.O. Formula

Reason for "Electral" - I sweat a lot while working out and if don't get hydrated good enough then next day I get ugly cramps, since I strated Electral, almost zero cramps.

So what should I do?

You are more prone to injury without proper warm ups. Can you lift more after just waking up in the mornings? Or after you get up and get moving around?

Same thing with your muscles- Wake them up.

 

[Built]

Plateau, I see the board you're spamming us with in your sig still advocates a ratio approach to diet.

Ick.

 

[jhawkin1]

Plateau, I see the board you're spamming us with in your sig still advocates a ratio approach to diet.

Ick.

Check out the 'cutting diet' on that website compared to the great nutritionists that we have here:

6:00 a.m. 1 tall glass of cold water before meal
1 meal replacement shake/high protein shake OR a bowl of oatmeal w/raisins and a piece of whole wheat bread w/peanut butter



8:00 a.m. A small slice of whole wheat bread w/tablespoon of peanut butter OR a small nonfat yogurt with granola


11:00 a.m. A whole-food lunch like a chicken breast & a salad, OR a Turkey sandwich on whole-wheat with baked potato chips.


2:00 p.m. A meal replacement shake or high protein shake.


5:00 p.m. A whole food dinner like tuna with light mayo on whole wheat OR a chicken breast with brown rice and steamed vegetables.


8:00 p.m. A small serving of lean steak or chicken with steamed vegetables OR a low-fat, low-sugar protein bar (Balance, Zone, Powerbar).


At bed: A small snack like a small bowl of cereal, a nonfat yogurt, or a protein bar (Balance Bar).

Consume at least a galloon of water thoughout the day as well.

 

[jhawkin1]

Meal replacement shake for breakfast- how about some REAL protein to start off the day?

Whole wheat bread- garbage

most granola= loaded with sugar and processed

Another protein shake (non specified)

light mayo- garbage

Best meal ive seen: chicken breast w/ brown rice and steamed veggies (might not need all those carbs though).

PROTEIN BARS: that's a no-no.

Bowl of cereal and a protein bar for a night snack?


What NOT to eat when cutting.

 

[Built]

No shit! Great post, jh.

 

[jhawkin1]

No shit! Great post, jh.

One and only showed me the way to glory and happiness

 

[Ben dur]

that diet looks like one id certainly loose weight on... if i could stick to it


doesnt look very interesting though

also (and i know we dont speak in ratios)
looks like about 20% protein...

vastly insufficient to me...

 

[nkira]

Thanks guys..... Lots to read now...

 

[nkira]

Got Built? » High Intensity Interval Foreplay

Hey built i like the title....

 

[nkira]

by the way i tried coffee again, it does work but fu**'s up my sleep.

 

[Built]

Hey built i like the title....

Glad you liked that!

by the way i tried coffee again, it does work but fu**'s up my sleep.

Try tyrosine.

 

[nkira]

Tyrosine before bed?

I read that This is a non-essential amino acid and it is found in casein. So can i take Optimum 100% Casein Protein or SAN :: Infusion

 

[Built]

Tyrosine before workouts. 1-3 grams.

 

[Plataeu]

Plateau, I see the board you're spamming us with in your sig still advocates a ratio approach to diet.

Ick.

Feel freeo to argue your point unless you're limited to the unnecessary "spammer" attack.

Also- If you have a problem with the articles on that forum I'm more than happy to debate with you.

 

[Plataeu]

Check out the 'cutting diet' on that website compared to the great nutritionists that we have here:

6:00 a.m. 1 tall glass of cold water before meal
1 meal replacement shake/high protein shake OR a bowl of oatmeal w/raisins and a piece of whole wheat bread w/peanut butter



8:00 a.m. A small slice of whole wheat bread w/tablespoon of peanut butter OR a small nonfat yogurt with granola


11:00 a.m. A whole-food lunch like a chicken breast & a salad, OR a Turkey sandwich on whole-wheat with baked potato chips.


2:00 p.m. A meal replacement shake or high protein shake.


5:00 p.m. A whole food dinner like tuna with light mayo on whole wheat OR a chicken breast with brown rice and steamed vegetables.


8:00 p.m. A small serving of lean steak or chicken with steamed vegetables OR a low-fat, low-sugar protein bar (Balance, Zone, Powerbar).


At bed: A small snack like a small bowl of cereal, a nonfat yogurt, or a protein bar (Balance Bar).

Consume at least a galloon of water thoughout the day as well.

Once again- Feel free to elaborate on why that "cutting diet" is unnecessary. Rather than "check this out".

 

[Plataeu]

Meal replacement shake for breakfast- how about some REAL protein to start off the day?

Although I disagree with you- I have to admit you're the only one that has backed up what you have said on why you disagree. REAL protein? There is nothing wrong with 1-2 protein shakes per day.

Whole wheat bread- garbage

Why?

most granola= loaded with sugar and processed

You'll consume sugars in almost anything you eat. Not to mention- It was optional for a meal replacement.

Another protein shake (non specified)

Any of your choice, musclemilk, whey, etc.

light mayo- garbage

It does nothing but add flavour.

Best meal ive seen: chicken breast w/ brown rice and steamed veggies (might not need all those carbs though).

The portion of the carbohydrates is what you need to look at, and that will be determined by the individual.

PROTEIN BARS: that's a no-no.

Not everyone has time to set around and cook 5-6 times per day. People have jobs, a family, hobbies, etc. And for those people a simple protein bar is perfectly fine.

Bowl of cereal and a protein bar for a night snack?

Once again, elaborate.

What NOT to eat when cutting.

Once again- What not to listen to is your advice. Unless you can further elaborate keep comments to yourself.

 

[Built]

Meal replacement shake for breakfast- how about some REAL protein to start off the day?

Although I disagree with you- I have to admit you're the only one that has backed up what you have said on why you disagree. REAL protein? There is nothing wrong with 1-2 protein shakes per day.

Nope, there isn't. Except this were your cutting guidelines and on a cut, drinking your calories is a great way to stay hungry. For the odd emergency meal, sure, it's going to be better than nothing. But for daily use? Hope you like being hungry...

Whole wheat bread- garbage

Why?

My take would be empty calories. I mean really, it's just grain. Why bother? Grain, being full of antinutrients, can leave a body mighty hungry. Outside of a carbload, not something I'd put into a daily cutting diet, but if you're comfortable, and you can afford the calories, go for it.

most granola= loaded with sugar and processed

You'll consume sugars in almost anything you eat. Not to mention- It was optional for a meal replacement.

YOU might consume sugars in almost everything you eat. I don't. And on a cut, more grain, more sugar... gonna make you hungry. If you don't mind, it'll WORK, but personally, for the calories, I'd rather have some hardboiled eggs, or some meat. It'll stick longer.

All comes down to satiety.

Another protein shake (non specified)

Any of your choice, musclemilk, whey, etc.

light mayo- garbage

It does nothing but add flavour.

Best meal ive seen: chicken breast w/ brown rice and steamed veggies (might not need all those carbs though).

The portion of the carbohydrates is what you need to look at, and that will be determined by the individual.

PROTEIN BARS: that's a no-no.

Not everyone has time to set around and cook 5-6 times per day. People have jobs, a family, hobbies, etc. And for those people a simple protein bar is perfectly fine.

Protein bars really are just fake food loaded with crap. Pack some raw nuts and a few hard boiled eggs. Protein and fat, REAL food, and a lot better at staving off hunger. Cheaper too.

Bowl of cereal and a protein bar for a night snack?

Once again, elaborate.

What NOT to eat when cutting.

Once again- What not to listen to is your advice. Unless you can further elaborate keep comments to yourself.

Why eat so much grain, bread, granola, fake food (bars and shakes) on a CUT? Surely you'd feel more comfortable on a higher fat, higher protein diet with more real food and less grain.

Bulking, hey, go for it. Even cutting, if you're comfortable, but really, this would not be a very comfortable way to diet.

And there's no need to cook - or eat - six times a day. Hell, I pack my food for the day and just eat something whenever I want. When it's gone, it's gone. I'd hate to think I had to eat on a schedule - pretty misarable on a diet to eat six microsnacks.

But to be fair, if this diet of yours provides below-maintenance calories AND you can stick to it, it'll "work".

You might feel like crap most of the time, but if you don't mind and you stick to it, you'll lose weight.

My .02

 

[Ben dur]

Although I disagree with you- I have to admit you're the only one that has backed up what you have said on why you disagree. REAL protein? There is nothing wrong with 1-2 protein shakes per day.



Why?



You'll consume sugars in almost anything you eat. Not to mention- It was optional for a meal replacement.



Any of your choice, musclemilk, whey, etc.



It does nothing but add flavour.



The portion of the carbohydrates is what you need to look at, and that will be determined by the individual.



Not everyone has time to set around and cook 5-6 times per day. People have jobs, a family, hobbies, etc. And for those people a simple protein bar is perfectly fine.



Once again, elaborate.




Once again- What not to listen to is your advice. Unless you can further elaborate keep comments to yourself.

id have to agree with plateau..

none of these foods would be considered things "not to eat on a cut"

shit
eat whatever you want on a cut

the idea is to consume enough of the requirements
1 g/lb of proteing min
.5g/lb of fat
20g of fiber

consume less than maint calories

lift heavy a few times a week

concentrate on compound movements


and maintain your sanity




practically anything will "work"

 

[Plataeu]

Nope, there isn't. Except this were your cutting guidelines and on a cut, drinking your calories is a great way to stay hungry. For the odd emergency meal, sure, it's going to be better than nothing. But for daily use? Hope you like being hungry...

If you're taking whey protein (conventional) with water instead of milk to avoid the consumption of simple carbohydrates / sugars, it should be fine.

My take would be empty calories. I mean really, it's just grain. Why bother? Grain, being full of antinutrients, can leave a body mighty hungry. Outside of a carbload, not something I'd put into a daily cutting diet, but if you're comfortable, and you can afford the calories, go for it.

Grain is one of the best source of carbohydrates you can find. When cutting you are burning more calories then you consume, eating small portions during the day with little foods at a time is a way to avoid hunger. If you avoid hunger you avoid cravings therefore increases your ability to eat foods even when you don't particularly like them.

YOU might consume sugars in almost everything you eat. I don't. And on a cut, more grain, more sugar... gonna make you hungry. If you don't mind, it'll WORK, but personally, for the calories, I'd rather have some hardboiled eggs, or some meat. It'll stick longer.

It's really hard to avoid sugars completely, anytime you eat something with any flavour, it will involve some type of sugars.

Protein bars really are just fake food loaded with crap. Pack some raw nuts and a few hard boiled eggs. Protein and fat, REAL food, and a lot better at staving off hunger. Cheaper too.

Cheaper? Yes. Easier? No. It's saves a lot of time for your average person to grab a protein and head out the door rather than cook, wash the dishes, get everything together, and etc. especially when you are on a strict diet. To maintain a happier lifestyle, a protein bar a day or even cycling this with another source of food wouldn't be bad.

Why eat so much grain, bread, granola, fake food (bars and shakes) on a CUT? Surely you'd feel more comfortable on a higher fat, higher protein diet with more real food and less grain.

I really don't understand the concept on consuming fats when trying to lose weight, fats have a total of 9 calories per gram, cutting calories is what you're trying to do here, right?

But to be fair, if this diet of yours provides below-maintenance calories AND you can stick to it, it'll "work".

Agreed.

 

[Built]

Nope, there isn't. Except this were your cutting guidelines and on a cut, drinking your calories is a great way to stay hungry. For the odd emergency meal, sure, it's going to be better than nothing. But for daily use? Hope you like being hungry...

If you're taking whey protein (conventional) with water instead of milk to avoid the consumption of simple carbohydrates / sugars, it should be fine.

Oh, it's protein, and it's calories, but it sure as hell ain't going to do much to fill you up when you're cutting.

I mean, it's not like I'm going to be drinking milk or juice under any circumstances.

I'll stick to tuna and avocado, thanks. WAY MORE FILLING.

My take would be empty calories. I mean really, it's just grain. Why bother? Grain, being full of antinutrients, can leave a body mighty hungry. Outside of a carbload, not something I'd put into a daily cutting diet, but if you're comfortable, and you can afford the calories, go for it.

Grain is one of the best source of carbohydrates you can find. When cutting you are burning more calories then you consume, eating small portions during the day with little foods at a time is a way to avoid hunger.

HAHAHAHAHAHA you have GOT to be kidding! Grain's a terrible choice! I hardly even eat it when I'm bulking.

There are WAY more satiating choices for carbohydrate while cutting. White potatoes, for example. Highest on the satiety index. Wheat isn't much of a player here.

And there is NO way on GOD'S GREEN EARTH I'd suggest eating carbs all day while DIETING. I'd be CHEWING MY ARM OFF!

If you avoid hunger you avoid cravings therefore increases your ability to eat foods even when you don't particularly like them.

I don't eat anything I don't like - ESPECIALLY while cutting. I only eat things that taste good - what little food I get to eat, I want to enjoy.

YOU might consume sugars in almost everything you eat. I don't. And on a cut, more grain, more sugar... gonna make you hungry. If you don't mind, it'll WORK, but personally, for the calories, I'd rather have some hardboiled eggs, or some meat. It'll stick longer.

It's really hard to avoid sugars completely, anytime you eat something with any flavour, it will involve some type of sugars.

There isn't much in the food that I eat. Most of my diet is protein and fat. What little there is shows up in romaine, broccoli, avocados, kale, and of course the starches I eat for my carbups.

Protein bars really are just fake food loaded with crap. Pack some raw nuts and a few hard boiled eggs. Protein and fat, REAL food, and a lot better at staving off hunger. Cheaper too.

Cheaper? Yes. Easier? No. It's saves a lot of time for your average person to grab a protein and head out the door rather than cook, wash the dishes, get everything together, and etc. especially when you are on a strict diet. To maintain a happier lifestyle, a protein bar a day or even cycling this with another source of food wouldn't be bad.

I do this every day. Seriously, it's no big deal to hardboil a dozen eggs while watching TV.

Why eat so much grain, bread, granola, fake food (bars and shakes) on a CUT? Surely you'd feel more comfortable on a higher fat, higher protein diet with more real food and less grain.

I really don't understand the concept on consuming fats when trying to lose weight, fats have a total of 9 calories per gram, cutting calories is what you're trying to do here, right?

Yes. Fats are satiating. I keep mine as high as possible while cutting. I'm on about 1700 calories a day on average right now, and my fats were 90 grams today.

But to be fair, if this diet of yours provides below-maintenance calories AND you can stick to it, it'll "work".

Agreed.

 

[Plataeu]

Oh, it's protein, and it's calories, but it sure as hell ain't going to do much to fill you up when you're cutting.

When you're on a calorie deficient, how can you expect to feel full? I mean aren't you feeding off your own fat due to lack of nutrition?

HAHAHAHAHAHA you have GOT to be kidding! Grain's a terrible choice! I hardly even eat it when I'm bulking.

Grain is a source of complex carbohydrates, the type of carbohydrates you should be consuming when cutting due to the slower aborption of the body.

And there is NO way on GOD'S GREEN EARTH I'd suggest eating carbs all day while DIETING. I'd be CHEWING MY ARM OFF!

As long as it's in small portions and from suitable choices.

I don't eat anything I don't like - ESPECIALLY while cutting. I only eat things that taste good - what little food I get to eat, I want to enjoy.

I'm not one to assume but are you saying you don't eat strict clean on diet? You could mean that you pick foods that you enjoy (that are clean), but keep in mind the first step in fat burning is liberate which means the chemical enviornment in the body has to be right for fat release. Which means your diet has to include the right foods instead of just anything.

There isn't much in the food that I eat. Most of my diet is protein and fat. What little there is shows up in romaine, broccoli, avocados, kale, and of course the starches I eat for my carbups.

Again- When cutting you are wanting to cut the calories, why choose 9 calories (1g of fat) over 4 calories (1g of carbohydrate)?

I do this every day. Seriously, it's no big deal to hardboil a dozen eggs while watching TV.

Yes but you should be relying on more than just eggs, which would refer to more "cooking".

Yes. Fats are satiating. I keep mine as high as possible while cutting. I'm on about 1700 calories a day on average right now, and my fats were 90 grams today.

I still don't think it makes sense to choose 9 calories per gram over 4 when cutting.

 

[Yanick]

Built's main point is that satiety does not correlate with calorie density. Fat is denser in calories but it takes less of it to make you feel fuller longer...Get it?

I don't like low/no carb diets. I don't function well without them, my training suffers and i'm really irritable once i start being depleted. When i diet i carb cycle/taper and dread the low/no carb days.

I don't know if her approach would work for me (i'm willing to try anything once though), but i just remember doing CKD's and such and being miserable...just waiting for the next carb up. I like and need my carbs, even if its like 1 slice of WW bread or something.

 

[PreMier]

plataeu, have you ever dieted down? ever competed? just curious.

and why are you advertising another board in your sig?

 

[Built]

Oh, it's protein, and it's calories, but it sure as hell ain't going to do much to fill you up when you're cutting.

When you're on a calorie deficient, how can you expect to feel full? I mean aren't you feeding off your own fat due to lack of nutrition?

If I can't feel full at least part of the day, and satiated most of the day, I can't diet.

I have all the inner discipline of a cat in heat. Me and that "empty" feeling don't get along very well.

HAHAHAHAHAHA you have GOT to be kidding! Grain's a terrible choice! I hardly even eat it when I'm bulking.

Grain is a source of complex carbohydrates, the type of carbohydrates you should be consuming when cutting due to the slower aborption of the body.

But why eat starches through the day when protein and fat are more satiating?

And there is NO way on GOD'S GREEN EARTH I'd suggest eating carbs all day while DIETING. I'd be CHEWING MY ARM OFF!

As long as it's in small portions and from suitable choices.

On a cut, I prefer to have larger portions in fewer meals. More satisfying. If YOU enjoy eating tiny meals with lots of grain, knock yourself out. It'll work.
You might feel comfortable this way.

Not everyone will, and if you've ever been fat, you're likely battling insulin resistance.

I speak from experience.

I don't eat anything I don't like - ESPECIALLY while cutting. I only eat things that taste good - what little food I get to eat, I want to enjoy.

I'm not one to assume but are you saying you don't eat strict clean on diet?

We have a winner! That's right, I eat butter, salt and chocolate WHILE CUTTING. Hell, sometimes I even eat ... BACON.

If it fits my macros and doesn't mess up my appetite control, I eat it.

You could mean that you pick foods that you enjoy (that are clean), but keep in mind the first step in fat burning is liberate which means the chemical enviornment in the body has to be right for fat release. Which means your diet has to include the right foods instead of just anything.

Prove it.

There isn't much in the food that I eat. Most of my diet is protein and fat. What little there is shows up in romaine, broccoli, avocados, kale, and of course the starches I eat for my carbups.

Again- When cutting you are wanting to cut the calories, why choose 9 calories (1g of fat) over 4 calories (1g of carbohydrate)?

I was obese. Carbs make me hungry. Fats are satiating.
I'm not alone.

I do this every day. Seriously, it's no big deal to hardboil a dozen eggs while watching TV.

Yes but you should be relying on more than just eggs, which would refer to more "cooking".

YOU should be relying on more than protein bars and protein powder.

What's your point?

Yes. Fats are satiating. I keep mine as high as possible while cutting. I'm on about 1700 calories a day on average right now, and my fats were 90 grams today.

I still don't think it makes sense to choose 9 calories per gram over 4 when cutting.

If they were equally satiating, this would be a no-brainer. But protein is the most satiating of all the macronutrients, followed by fats and then carbohydrate. Much of this is related to postprandial CCK. You can look into this more if you like.

You appear to have done some reading, Plateau, but not much of it is current.

I invite you to read the following authors, for your continuing education:

Lyle McDonald Lyle McDonald - Bodyrecomposition
Anthony Colpo Anthony Colpo - AnthonyColpo.com
John Berardi Dr. John Berardi, Ph.D.
Martin Berkhan Leangains - Intermittent Fasting for Strength Training and Fat Loss

One of our members here has an excellent blog: Nigee's Diet & Nutrition Blog

Many others await, and of course, there's always my very good friend, PubMed Home

Welcome to the present.

 

[nkira]

Well i never though that this could flare up a argument......Hope doesn't end up locking the thread....Anyways.

 

[Plataeu]

If I can't feel full at least part of the day, and satiated most of the day, I can't diet.

Once again- I still can't understand how you'll feel full burning more calories than your consuming.

I have all the inner discipline of a cat in heat. Me and that "empty" feeling don't get along very well.

But why eat starches through the day when protein and fat are more satiating?

Carbohydrates aren't only used for energy. Energy is carbs primary function however they are used for brain function and fueling muscle growth as well. Now- I know at catabolic state (whilst cutting) you won't build hypertrophy (not likely anyway) but to maintain muscle density the carbohydrates will help out significantly.

On a cut, I prefer to have larger portions in fewer meals. More satisfying. If YOU enjoy eating tiny meals with lots of grain, knock yourself out. It'll work.
You might feel comfortable this way.

I've never cut. My cutting phase starts the second week of March.

I speak from experience.

There's not doubt you have more than this than I do. I am only 19 years old and have only been training for three years. However- I do know a thing or two about dieting and bodybuilding / powerlifting in general.

We have a winner! That's right, I eat butter, salt and chocolate WHILE CUTTING. Hell, sometimes I even eat ... BACON.

I'm not sure why you respond to this, but I won't argue your results.

Prove it.

I will do that indeed. It may take me a day or so to find it, but I will do so and I will post it.

I was obese. Carbs make me hungry. Fats are satiating.
I'm not alone.

The key to not allowing yourself to get hungry is to eat little and often. By not allowing yourself to get hungry, you are allowing yourself better choice in meals.

YOU should be relying on more than protein bars and protein powder.

I don't even consume protein bars. I said it's down to individual preferance. You're eating bacon, butter, and other fats yet shooting down a protein bar?

You appear to have done some reading, Plateau, but not much of it is current.

I'm assuming you called me smart but saying "you have appear to have done some reading" and I appreciate it. Hopefully I've proven I'm not some spammer that trolls with no knowledge on the subject they preach.

I invite you to read the following authors, for your continuing education:

Lyle McDonald Lyle McDonald - Bodyrecomposition
Anthony Colpo Anthony Colpo - AnthonyColpo.com
John Berardi Dr. John Berardi, Ph.D.
Martin Berkhan Leangains - Intermittent Fasting for Strength Training and Fat Loss

I will read, although when it comes to losing fat, I prefer reading things from guys like Tom Virtuo.

 

[Built]

Once again- I still can't understand how you'll feel full burning more calories than your consuming.

That's because you've never dieted this way.

This is how Atkins works. You eat food that's more satiating and you automatically eat less.

Carbohydrates aren't only used for energy. Energy is carbs primary function however they are used for brain function and fueling muscle growth as well. Now- I know at catabolic state (whilst cutting) you won't build hypertrophy (not likely anyway) but to maintain muscle density the carbohydrates will help out significantly.

Not while cutting they don't. You want to be insulin resistant while cutting, to protect lean mass.

Seriously, read Lyle for more on this. It'll do you a world of good.

I've never cut. My cutting phase starts the second week of March.

This says a lot right here. How juicy are you, Plat? How much fat do you have to drop?

There's not doubt you have more than this than I do. I am only 19 years old and have only been training for three years. However- I do know a thing or two about dieting and bodybuilding / powerlifting in general.

Yes, you know a thing, or two.

I'm not sure why you respond to this, but I won't argue your results.

Most of my diet is pretty basic. I eat whole, natural foods. Butter is a whole, natural food and very healthy. Salt is very helpful while cutting because it has flavour with zero calories, and it helps your muscles work by helping them stay hydrated. Chocolate is a natural food, healthy fat, natural sugar. I don't eat much of it, but I do slip a little in as my calories afford.

Bacon's just tasty. I rarely eat it because I prefer to spend the calories on food that I find more satiating. But I'm not above a slice once or twice a week if hubby's got some in the pan.

I will do that indeed. It may take me a day or so to find it, but I will do so and I will post it.

Awesome.

The key to not allowing yourself to get hungry is to eat little and often. By not allowing yourself to get hungry, you are allowing yourself better choice in meals.

Actually, no. On a cut, most of us do better eating infrequently, but with larger meals. Keeping starches to a minumum is helpful here. So is keeping protein HIGH.

I don't even consume protein bars. I said it's down to individual preferance. You're eating bacon, butter, and other fats yet shooting down a protein bar?

Butter and the other fats I eat are healthy. Butter is a healthy, natural source of good saturated, monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. I eat it every day.

I also eat raw nuts every day, olive oil, egg yolks and an avocado.

I'm assuming you called me smart but saying "you have appear to have done some reading" and I appreciate it. Hopefully I've proven I'm not some spammer that trolls with no knowledge on the subject they preach.
I will read, although when it comes to losing fat, I prefer reading things from guys like Tom Virtuo.

I think you mean "Venuto".

He's very good at marketing himself. He's one of the first people most of us run into when we hit the electronic world of physical culture.

I prefer to read and apply principals that work. Hence the reading list I offered you.

Listen - you are a young healthy male who has barely enough information to be dangerous. Do yourself a favour and read people who know more than you do.

 

[Plataeu]

That's because you've never dieted this way.

Yes I have. It's how I bulked.

This is how Atkins works. You eat food that's more satiating and you automatically eat less.

I've heard of this.

Seriously, read Lyle for more on this. It'll do you a world of good.

I will do so.

This says a lot right here. How juicy are you, Plat? How much fat do you have to drop?

I'd prefer to get down to about 10%. I'm roughly 20% at the moment. Give or take.

Most of my diet is pretty basic. I eat whole, natural foods. Butter is a whole, natural food and very healthy. Salt is very helpful while cutting because it has flavour with zero calories, and it helps your muscles work by helping them stay hydrated. Chocolate is a natural food, healthy fat, natural sugar. I don't eat much of it, but I do slip a little in as my calories afford.

Sugars in protein bars come from chocolate. There are also peanut butter and etc.

Bacon's just tasty. I rarely eat it because I prefer to spend the calories on food that I find more satiating. But I'm not above a slice once or twice a week if hubby's got some in the pan.

Relying on your taste buds to alert you when and what to eat is just dangerous to your eating habbits.

Actually, no. On a cut, most of us do better eating infrequently, but with larger meals. Keeping starches to a minumum is helpful here. So is keeping protein HIGH.

I agree with keeping protein high, when cutting the fat / carb intake should be the only thing to change but I don't agree with raising fats for the sake of "satisfying your taste buds" and neglecting complex carbs, oatmeal being an example.

I think you mean "Venuto".

Indeed.

Listen - you are a young healthy male who has barely enough information to be dangerous. Do yourself a favour and read people who know more than you do.

I'm unsure what you refer to as "dangerous". But the same conclusion could be provided to you and your "eat fat to lose fat scenario".

 

[nkira]

This is not gonna stop....

 

[Merkaba]

this is TOO funny. How can someone who never cut speak in absolutes about Cutting? Grain as a top carb source, you don't understand how you can feel full on a cut? Youre saying it could be dangerous to eat fat to lose fat?yea if youre dumb enough to eat nothing but sat and trans. Youre still on the "20 small meals a day" kick, arguing whats easier to do at home over what works, rebutting about your knowlege base from authors you can't remember doesnt exactly build credibility either. Built has more patience than me, I'm no going to repeat her except to say that you do appear to have just enough knowledge to be dangerous. Pay attention to some new authors, and maybe to the forum rules too! The true fitness community? With the administrator speaking of negative calorie foods, lol...NO THANKS!!!...HXC FITNESS • View topic - Negative Calorie Food