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Body Fat % before you start and while on cycle!!!!

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I guarantee almost anyone in here who put up their bf% is dead wrong. outside of gmo, and xyz, if he posted one.
 
The sacrifice it takes to get to sub 10% is amazing in itself, GMO getting to 6% is incredible.

As for the question "what should your body fat be before starting a cycle?", well that depends on your goal. Are you trying to cut or bulk? I've run heavy cycles at 15-20% to add as much size as possible. Being 300 pounds plus at 20% is a whole lot different then being 175 at 20%. I got dunked at 291 and recorded at 14% 3-4 years back. But for me now, that's stupid, fuck I'm almost 52. I'm 255 right now, probably 13-16%, and I'm cruising on 300mg test e weekly. So it really depends on the person, no one answer is correct.

If this rambled a bit, it's because I've got my daughter sleeping on me and I'm on my phone.
 
Gents, I wanted to apologize for the rambling in my post I really meant it for good and am here just for that reason only, take care of you guys. Not sure if everyone knows but I just found out recently that I have a herniated disk between the L5&L6. It is on the severe side as it is pushing on my spinal cord and at times leaving my left leg at times numb and almost paralyzed. When I began to write last night I had just taking my meds 10mins prior and as I got to the obvious point had a hard time focusing, kept rambling and the final point was just a repeat of about five other sentences. I really had good intentions but the meds got on my back and through me into where I couldn???t remember what I had just written thus the above. Sorry bro???s. I have been in the field the pass couple of days doing combat training lanes and finally the pain caught up with me and I am no chump but had tears in my eyes last night. So I took the Percocet as prescribed by the doc and about 15mins later created the above abstract master piece. I appreciate you all keeping it real with me. I don???t get but hurt and only a true friend will tell the truth.

Also I am re-doing the information in front as far as the break down of AAS and non-AAS compounds used for support in a excel sheet for better understanding. Again guys my bad and keeping it real with honesty. I did not know that those little
gremlins could do that to a brother.
 
hey chris be carefull with those precs i had surgrey on my bicepe tendon and was rx percs i am coming off of them now and it is hell on earth.dont stay on them long take my word for it or your life will be over as you know it.
 
sure

guess oops would have been better



oh nos...power abusing mods talking bout me:geewhiz:

It is what it is Bro, you brought 99.9% of this on yourself. If you want or need anything else please feel free to PM me anytime. Thanks.
 
Here's what I'm struggling with personally. I carry the bulk of my bf around the waist. I'm sure that's not uncommon. I've bought two different sets of calipers and they are both in the same realm of % currently 10 - 12 however I don't see it in the morror personally so I'm not banking on that number. Obviously dunking is the most accurate.

What bf% does a person get rid of the excess around the middle without going to extremes. I'm not concerned so much with my bf% as I am seeing all my abdominals. I mean do some people have to get to 6% to acheive that? Then once it is achieved does it pile right back on in that region when the bf% goes back to 10%. I look better than I ever have in my life, It's just when am I actually gonna see it around my waist and at what cost?
 
It is what it is Bro, you brought 99.9% of this on yourself. If you want or need anything else please feel free to PM me anytime. Thanks.
yeah ...it is what it is...i got infracted for not being a fan of golden retreivers....and also not going along with a claim of better stats than arnold....then i said "crap"....what a jerk i am:wacko:

an opinonated american shouldnt be an odd thing
 
yeah ...it is what it is...i got infracted for not being a fan of golden retreivers....and also not going along with a claim of better stats than arnold....then i said "crap"....what a jerk i am:wacko:

an opinonated american shouldnt be an odd thing


That's not the issues I'm talking about at all, and that is your opinion. Let's keep the drama out of the thread. If you want to discuss this further please PM me anytime.
 
Here's what I'm struggling with personally. I carry the bulk of my bf around the waist. I'm sure that's not uncommon. I've bought two different sets of calipers and they are both in the same realm of % currently 10 - 12 however I don't see it in the morror personally so I'm not banking on that number. Obviously dunking is the most accurate.

What bf% does a person get rid of the excess around the middle without going to extremes. I'm not concerned so much with my bf% as I am seeing all my abdominals. I mean do some people have to get to 6% to acheive that? Then once it is achieved does it pile right back on in that region when the bf% goes back to 10%. I look better than I ever have in my life, It's just when am I actually gonna see it around my waist and at what cost?

It's a very individual thing, don't think there is a definitive answer. I've had abs at 16-17%, had none at 12-13% depending on where I'm carrying my fat. Like you, I carry mine in the middle of my body around my waist. I'm 255 right now, pants are waist size 36, but at 290 I can wear 38's. It's just how your body holds fat.
 
It's a very individual thing, don't think there is a definitive answer. I've had abs at 16-17%, had none at 12-13% depending on where I'm carrying my fat. Like you, I carry mine in the middle of my body around my waist. I'm 255 right now, pants are waist size 36, but at 290 I can wear 38's. It's just how your body holds fat.

My body spreads it around fairly evenly, but like most men I have more of an accumulation around my lower midsection. Most of which is gone now, but that pesky back fat is still there to a degree.:pissed:
 
hey chris be carefull with those precs i had surgrey on my bicepe tendon and was rx percs i am coming off of them now and it is hell on earth.dont stay on them long take my word for it or your life will be over as you know it.


I am not man. Just been struggling this week and usually good not to take anything like that. However after the stupid 10 mile road march I was done and could have cried on how much pain I was in. Thanks for your concern and friendship!!!
 
but I just found out recently that I have a herniated disk between the L5&L6. It is on the severe side as it is pushing on my spinal cord and at times leaving my left leg at times numb and almost paralyzed.... I have been in the field the pass couple of days doing combat training lanes...QUOTE]

Not to be a dick, but your docs should be kicked in the f*cking head. There's a difference between having two scoops of hooah in your pockets, being a profile ranger, and just straight being dumb. you only have one spine, and the training area will be there long after you start getting a pension. take better care of yourself, bro.

as far as bf goes, i'm in the same boat as several people. i caliper at 11-13% and barely have visible abs. the middle, especially the back is the absolute last place i keep bf.
 
I kind of agree to an extent with the original tone of this thread. I resent fat bean bag chair looking guys hopping on cycles and making steroid users look bad because of their lame physiques. Mainly because I used to fit that mold I guess. Whatever works for people I guess, just one guys opinion. That sentiment is probably also inspired by the skinnyfat guys at my lame gym and not im so much.
 
but I just found out recently that I have a herniated disk between the L5&L6. It is on the severe side as it is pushing on my spinal cord and at times leaving my left leg at times numb and almost paralyzed.... I have been in the field the pass couple of days doing combat training lanes...QUOTE]

Not to be a dick, but your docs should be kicked in the f*cking head. There's a difference between having two scoops of hooah in your pockets, being a profile ranger, and just straight being dumb. you only have one spine, and the training area will be there long after you start getting a pension. take better care of yourself, bro.

as far as bf goes, i'm in the same boat as several people. i caliper at 11-13% and barely have visible abs. the middle, especially the back is the absolute last place i keep bf.

No offense taking man. I try not to be ignorant to my reality but its so hard when you love training Americas next fighting force and being hurt. I am trying to watch but will probably continue to be dumb by pushing my body to the limits. Ignorance is bliss and I am a leader out in front.

So Mote it Be
Chris
 
My body spreads it around fairly evenly, but like most men I have more of an accumulation around my lower midsection. Most of which is gone now, but that pesky back fat is still there to a degree.:pissed:


99% of the time your back is the last thing to come in.
 
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