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Flex said:You're still not eating enough then.
Flex said:I'll take Ronnie, thanks.
There's 100million people who have the physique of Vin Diesel or Brad Pitt. But there's only one Ronnie Coleman.
diet is just as important as training. if i eat only 2000 calories a day it doesnt matter what my training is like. i won't gain a poundDamnHardGainer said:Sure. Calories are the solution to everything right? Gee, that must be why America is the fattest country on earth -- funny, considering it's the most diet-obsessed.
Training is the key, not stuffing your gut with food.
DamnHardGainer said:Training is the key, not stuffing your gut with food.
DamnHardGainer said:Sure. Calories are the solution to everything right? Gee, that must be why America is the fattest country on earth -- funny, considering it's the most diet-obsessed.
Training is the key, not stuffing your gut with food.
DamnHardGainer said:Gee. Maybe they just aren't eating enough!![]()
I used to fall into that category before I wrote everything down, its really not too hard to deceive yourself unless you're writting everything down or are just very inteligent in nutrition.Flex said:You just think you're eating enough, but you're not.
well you remember the pam n tommy thing? someone stole a brad jennifer tape. in it he is working out his right arm quite vigorously a few times. i really don't think you want me to post it. you can find it on limewire tho if you are interested in jennifers workout.tomas101 said:ya go ahead and post it![]()
LAM said:diet is 80% of this sport. going to the gym is the easy part, that is bodybuilding 101
DamnHardGainer said:I eat 8 meals a day of 600 ~ 800 calories, balanced 40-40-20, and my gains have been hard earned but steady over 10 years. I eat that much because I don't have a choice...I starve after 2.5 hours without fuel and have to eat in the middle of the night when my body wakes me up. I gained 40 lbs lean mass over 10 years on a naturally skinny 5'8 125 lb frame and my body does not like the extra bulk...if I skip even 2 days of my workout routine, I can drop 3 lbs of mass. No one knows my body like I do.
Maybe I should consume 10 meals a day a turn into Ronnie. Yeah right.
Flex said:and 10 meals/day ain't gonna make you look like Ronnie, sorry, bro.
I'm the exact opposite, when i eat i lose weight and when i don't eat i gain weight. It's pretty weird, I went to some scientist's house down the street and he said that it was true. Nobody knows my body like that scientist.DamnHardGainer said:I don't agree with that at all. I'd break it down 50-50. As with any sport there are different schools of thought and with bodybuilding, everyone here should know through experience that nothing is one-size-fits-all. There is general conventional wisdom, but nothing works for everyone. Metamorphism is proof of that.
I personally know a couple guys blessed with true mesomorphic genetics who grow with the slightest hint of physical activity. One guy never touches weights and only swims, yet he has a physique that looks built with iron. The other guy trains light full body 3 days a week, yet he gains lean mass just by looking at a weight room apparently. Both don't give a damn about their diets...they were military and ate mostly burger king and popeyes chicken for 2 out of 3 meals a day. Literally. Yet here they are with bodies like Apollo.
I eat 8 meals a day of 600 ~ 800 calories, balanced 40-40-20, and my gains have been hard earned but steady over 10 years. I eat that much because I don't have a choice...I starve after 2.5 hours without fuel and have to eat in the middle of the night when my body wakes me up. I gained 40 lbs lean mass over 10 years on a naturally skinny 5'8 125 lb frame and my body does not like the extra bulk...if I skip even 2 days of my workout routine, I can drop 3 lbs of mass. No one knows my body like I do.
Maybe I should consume 10 meals a day a turn into Ronnie. Yeah right.
wow that defies the laws of physicswestb51 said:I'm the exact opposite, when i eat i lose weight and when i don't eat i gain weight. It's pretty weird, I went to some scientist's house down the street and he said that it was true. Nobody knows my body like that scientist.
DamnHardGainer said:I don't agree with that at all. I'd break it down 50-50. As with any sport there are different schools of thought and with bodybuilding, everyone here should know through experience that nothing is one-size-fits-all. There is general conventional wisdom, but nothing works for everyone. Metamorphism is proof of that.
I personally know a couple guys blessed with true mesomorphic genetics who grow with the slightest hint of physical activity. One guy never touches weights and only swims, yet he has a physique that looks built with iron. The other guy trains light full body 3 days a week, yet he gains lean mass just by looking at a weight room apparently. Both don't give a damn about their diets...they were military and ate mostly burger king and popeyes chicken for 2 out of 3 meals a day. Literally. Yet here they are with bodies like Apollo.
I eat 8 meals a day of 600 ~ 800 calories, balanced 40-40-20, and my gains have been hard earned but steady over 10 years. I eat that much because I don't have a choice...I starve after 2.5 hours without fuel and have to eat in the middle of the night when my body wakes me up. I gained 40 lbs lean mass over 10 years on a naturally skinny 5'8 125 lb frame and my body does not like the extra bulk...if I skip even 2 days of my workout routine, I can drop 3 lbs of mass. No one knows my body like I do.
Maybe I should consume 10 meals a day a turn into Ronnie. Yeah right.
if I skip even 2 days of my workout routine, I can drop 3 lbs of mass.
LAM said:well all I can that to that post is I guess it sucks to be you. I'm 245+ lbs and eat 3-3.5k cals a day.![]()
vegman said:Brad Pitt is way too small for me. I don't want to look like every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the street. I want to be big, but not Ronnie big.![]()
DamnHardGainer said:Not really. What is a curse in some ways is a blessing in others. I have very low fat and great definition. The striations in my pecs look like fingers. Unlike you I can actually see striations, and that's always a good test of overall fitness. I'd say you're eating too much for your body type.
I'm in Japan right now but I fly back to the states next week. After I get settled I'll have some pics taken for my profile.
DamnHardGainer said:Not really. What is a curse in some ways is a blessing in others. I have very low fat and great definition. The striations in my pecs look like fingers. Unlike you I can actually see striations, and that's always a good test of overall fitness.
P-funk said:how are striations a good test of overal fitness?? realistically the human body shouldn't be a extremely low BF levels anyway.
and, LAM is a big ripped guy bro.
LAM said:I know one thing and it doesn't take 10 years to go from 125 to 165 lbs. you may "think" you know about eating right for this sport but your results prove the exact opposite.
DamnHardGainer said:Riiight. A 245 lb endo-mesomorph trying to give a 165 lb ectomorph advice on what works best for his body based on 60 posts vs his 10 years of experience with his own body that he increased overall lean mass on by 32% in lbs. That exceeds the threshhold of common sense. I suppose I should give you advice on how to cut.
LAM said:those pictures of me are almost 3 years old plus I was almost 260 lbs @ 6'0
I am be no means an meso. I started out at 5'9 135 lbs when my knees where the widest part of my leg. I know how to diet for this sport.