I prefer clen over ECA. I take 150 mcgs daily using 2 weeks on clen then use ECA for 2 weeks.
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Clen vs. ECA
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Originally posted by BUSTINOUT
One thing you failed to mention GP, is whether or not he is married or has gf. If so, his blood pressure is gonna be through the roof and he is a perfect candidate for a stroke at any moment. Run Forest, RUN!!!!
How true...how f'n true!
Hmmmmmmmm, interesting.
BTW: yeah, I have a girlfriend 
Gopro and what s the problem with sodium? Water retention, I suppose.
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Originally posted by Prince
no, I am married and it's true!
That's fuqqing funny! LOL
GP or anyone else, would you say Clen stacked with a non-ephedra product would be okay to do since it may decrease appetite and not elevate heart rate as much as an ephedra product would?
Sup mj. Just browsin around checkin out the scenery.
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My opinion is that the hardest way to co would be a mix.
week 1-5
T3 pyramid .25mcg (4days), .5(4d), .75(4d), 100(11d), .75(4), .5(4), .25(4)
wks 1,2,5,6
clen up to 150-200 (or by tolerance)
wks 3,4,7,8
NYCA/ECA w/ sodium usinate
wks 7-10
gugglesterones
Just my thoughts, though I tend to go heavy w/ things.
My opinion is that the hardest way to co would be a mix.
week 1-5
T3 pyramid .25mcg (4days), .5(4d), .75(4d), 100(11d), .75(4), .5(4), .25(4)
wks 1,2,5,6
clen up to 150-200 (or by tolerance)
wks 3,4,7,8
NYCA/ECA w/ sodium usinate
wks 7-10
gugglesterones
Just my thoughts, though I tend to go heavy w/ things.
Umm... does it make me crazy that I mixed NYCA and clen once? did I mention the once part?
did I mention the once part?
Originally posted by cornfed
Umm... does it make me crazy that I mixed NYCA and clen once?
You are only crazy if you try it twice my man!
can a woman take ECA??
and Princess, yes.
COOL THANKS~ Sooo is that illegal tooo???
Ohh cool!! Thanks! Is there a brand I should get?
Originally posted by cornfed
Umm... does it make me crazy that I mixed NYCA and clen once?
Foolish sounds more apt.
And idiocy that you post it in such jest.
Princess, try in the supplement forum - there are various brands and most of them are getting away from or HAVE gotten away from even ephedra, much less ephedrine, and thusly may not be that affective.
So, I'm sure there must be something out there decent, I just dont know what it is offhand. I was using Twin Labs Ripped Fuel, people talked about it giving them an energy kick etc, and I got nothing from it, I dont seem to respond well it seems
My vesion had EPHEDRA instead of EPHEDRINE which maybe the Canadians have?
So, I'm sure there must be something out there decent, I just dont know what it is offhand. I was using Twin Labs Ripped Fuel, people talked about it giving them an energy kick etc, and I got nothing from it, I dont seem to respond well it seems
My vesion had EPHEDRA instead of EPHEDRINE which maybe the Canadians have?
Well, to be totally candid, my friend, it was not as foolish as I jested. You see, my body tends to stabilize more easily than your average joe in the subject of tolerance to drugs or any substance...w/ the exception of carbs LOL. I only added in the NYCA after the 10th day of the 2wker and only b/c there was zero percievable effect of the drug whether by body temp or by resting heart rate. Since that time, I only carry out clen cycles of 10 days on 10 days off as it better suits my body's tolerances. I was making the comment in jest, though I did not explain the methodology or philosophical/theoretical aspect of my thought process and actions. I left that part out b/c I was striving for a humorous stab at myself rather than a mere jest about the gravity of the subject.
I know, bud... I like TCD ... 
... now I know that's gonna get twised around... but I figured I'd clarify so that noone would run out and take 100-150mg of E or NorE while taking .2mg of clen... but I guess that'd only matter if my opinion meant sh!t to anyone here anywho
... now I know that's gonna get twised around... but I figured I'd clarify so that noone would run out and take 100-150mg of E or NorE while taking .2mg of clen... but I guess that'd only matter if my opinion meant sh!t to anyone here anywho
So is glutamine sh!t or what do you really think?
Regardless of your intentions, if someone comes in this thread without the knoweldge and reads that thinking if it's ok for you then it'll be ok for them, then they may find themselves in a bit of trouble.
Mixing ephedrine with Yohimbine can be bad enough. Mixing a potentially much more potent drug such as clen with Yohimbine is just idiocy from my perspective. And if that person had existing heart problems then they may be in even more shit.
And while you may have not mixed them from day one, you still gave the impression of cycling them throughout.
As a moderator you also automatically gain the respect from newer lifters/board members, so they may be thinking you are giving the right kind of advice.
And i'm not having a go at your person, just that post.
Mixing ephedrine with Yohimbine can be bad enough. Mixing a potentially much more potent drug such as clen with Yohimbine is just idiocy from my perspective. And if that person had existing heart problems then they may be in even more shit.
And while you may have not mixed them from day one, you still gave the impression of cycling them throughout.
As a moderator you also automatically gain the respect from newer lifters/board members, so they may be thinking you are giving the right kind of advice.
And i'm not having a go at your person, just that post.
Ephedrine is just the active part of ephedra (like caffiene from coffee or yohimbine from yohimbe).
Ephedra is usually standardised to 8% ephedrine, so supps containing 'ephedra' usually have it in amounts to give about 100-200mg ephedrine, just like those supps that have ephedrine have a straight 100-200mg ephedrine.