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if you're on step 3...did you pour the cold distilled water in yet?
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Ok so we have the powder....are the steps below the correct way to convert the powder into liquid tren?
- Preheat the oven to 175 F.
- Add BA and BB
- Add Oil. Pop it in the oven and let it melt.
- Fill it the rest of the way to 18 ml. Mix it up (shake gently).
- Filter into new sterile vial
- Pop the vial into the oven. Increase the heat to 250. Bake for 45 min
- Preheat the oven to 175 F.
- Add BA and BB
- Add Oil. Pop it in the oven and let it melt.
- Fill it the rest of the way to 18 ml. Mix it up (shake gently).
- Filter into new sterile vial
- Pop the vial into the oven. Increase the heat to 250. Bake for 45 min
brundel
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NO.
Do not .....ever....use the oven. Its too difficult to manage the temp.
Weigh your powder.
Use this to determine %'s Untitled
Put a pan with a couple inches of water in it on the stove.
place a bomex beaker or pyrex measuring cup (using pyrex will make this step take longer) Add BA and BB to the beaker.
Turn heat to med low.
after about a min slowly stir in powder.
DO NOT BOIL TREN SOLUTION> if the water boils a bit its fine.
Once the tren is dissolved into the solution slowly add in the oil.
Once warm draw into a 10-20ml syringe
Attach a sterile filter.
Vent sterile vial
Filter.
brundel
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With tren made from implants your gonna have alot of clogging.
I usually keep 2 per cart on hand just incase.
Sometimes you can get 20+ml through one....
Sometimes they clog at 8ml
Sometimes if you force them too much they blow out.
Buy extra.
Dont forget to flush the filters.
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TUF-FKR
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Ok Guys, Thanks in advance again. Brundel is the man. I need a guy like you in all my Forums for all my hobbies!
SO, I forgot to make the Distilled water cold before I poured it in and I didnt do it slow either. The crystals still appeared but they are flat small flakes.
The coffee filters clog up fast, I wish there was an easier way. This is a PITA. I have coffee filters everywhere out to dry. I bought nice cone ones from Trader Joes.
There are #2 and #4 coffee filters, I bought #2. Not sure if that is the filter strength or size.
SO I have been spending alot of time on Researchsupply DOT net and it seems there are many items in the filter section that would really assist with this part of it. Any advice? I am thinking of going for the vacuum pump. I have a compressor. There are so many to choose from. Any help would be appreciated.
Again, Brundal the Mixing Percentage conversion chart web link is priceless. I am a little concerned though, I used 10ML oil at 100mg and it says 0 for BB and .5ML for BA.
Why 0 for BB? I am ready to make my first one, but want to make sure I add the right stuff.
SO, I forgot to make the Distilled water cold before I poured it in and I didnt do it slow either. The crystals still appeared but they are flat small flakes.
The coffee filters clog up fast, I wish there was an easier way. This is a PITA. I have coffee filters everywhere out to dry. I bought nice cone ones from Trader Joes.
There are #2 and #4 coffee filters, I bought #2. Not sure if that is the filter strength or size.
SO I have been spending alot of time on Researchsupply DOT net and it seems there are many items in the filter section that would really assist with this part of it. Any advice? I am thinking of going for the vacuum pump. I have a compressor. There are so many to choose from. Any help would be appreciated.
Again, Brundal the Mixing Percentage conversion chart web link is priceless. I am a little concerned though, I used 10ML oil at 100mg and it says 0 for BB and .5ML for BA.
Why 0 for BB? I am ready to make my first one, but want to make sure I add the right stuff.
TUF-FKR
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FYI, I cannot PM people until I git 50 posts. Thanks for the PM Slayer.
Will the Whatman .45um syringe filters work? I've read they are troublesome but I am hoping your process will eliminate the clogging....the heating and venting will help as well and maybe people just aren't smart enough to do that...what do you think?
Also, as far as flushing the filters you just don't add all of the oil at first right? Only flush once with maybe the last 2cc's of oil that make up the final tren?
Thanks!
brundel
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Next time around try to be as patient as possible. The more filters you use the more will be lost in the filter itself therefore lowering your yield (dramatically if you used 5 filters or something for a cart or 2)
Flat small flakes are fine.
I would not think about getting a vac pump. These are intended for use with larger sterile cup filters and you dont need those for a tren conversion.
They work better for when your making 500ml+
In the calculator the top half is for you to enter your own numbers and it calculates everything at the bottom.
It says .05 which is 5%BA change this to .02
change BA to the % you want. Say 18% this is .18
FOr oil punch in however many ML's you want total Example: 100 for 100ml.
FOr dosage put 100mg for tren.
FOr the powder weight >>leave it alone unless you know the proper number>>
The bottom boxes are the amounts you use for your conversion.
brundel
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I would always use a .22
Its gonna take longer than a .45 but.....there are some nasty things that can go through a .45 that cannot go through a .22. Google staph infection pictures. If that doesnt convince you to use .22 nothing will. It will take longer.
There will be ALOT less clogging with this method because your not filtering out the glues and binders.
As for flushing, yes flush once with 2ml-3ml left behind.
TUF-FKR
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Hey Brundel,
My question is: What should the BB percentage be at?
I am using 10ml oil, 100mg dosage. The BA defaults to .05, the BB defaults to 0.
I dont know what the BB precentage should be. 0? Your post above used BA for both. I think it was a mis-spelling? One of them should have been BB?
Anyways, I will slow it down next time. I have another 4 carts to do. Each time I learn a little more. Anxious to make the first 10ml and test it out.
I read that the crystal tren has a shorter half life than tren ace......i was under the impression that usin the fina pellets that contain tren acetate and converting them to the crystals was the same as any other tren ace.
So, did i read something bogus or do i need to shoot crystal tren every day. I usually do tren ace eod.
So, did i read something bogus or do i need to shoot crystal tren every day. I usually do tren ace eod.
brundel
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brundel
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This makes no sense at all.
Fina or component TH contains trenbolone acetate.
This is what the crystals are. Trenbolone acetate.
Whoever told you that........dont ever listen to ANYTHING they tell you ever.
LOL. I won't be listening to them anymore. It sounded convincing though. They said the methanol strips the ester out of the fina??? So I googled it and sure enough I found a site that says there is a "1 hour rule" - if you leave the fina in the meth for too long it will strip the ester.
Anyways just to clarify. The active life for for crystal tren is still 2-3 days right?
brundel
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Methanol wont likely strip the ester off....even after 10 hours.
Its NaoH (sodium hydroxide) that will strip the ester in 1 hour.
Its NaoH (sodium hydroxide) that will strip the ester in 1 hour.
brundel
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I would shoot tren ace no less than every other day.
Yeah, i completely agree. I have run 3 cycles with tren ace in them at 50mg eod. I had great results but I tasted metal in my mouth after each injection.
Trying to decide if i should do 100mg eod or 50ed. Im stacking with test prop.
Ok, I'm rinsing the white stuff that is supposed to be powder as I type this.....not sure if I screwed up or not.
I'll try and explain what my steps were really quick.
I used a little more heet during the dissolving and the 1st filter stage to rinse my jar that I dissolved the pellets in as well as rinsed the filter to wash the sides of it.
After the heet and dissolved pellets went through the coffee filter the liquid was still a little white so I filtered again just to be safe. Didn't get that much cellulose on the filter that time....could it have dissolve more and passed through filter??
Then I added over 500ml of ice cold water all at once to the heet/tren liquid. It turned milky white immediately.
Then I started to filter to extract the powder.....this process took for ever. I ended up having to use 3 different filters. I rinsed and re rinsed several times. After I filtered I would pour that liquid through another filter until it was clear.
I feel like I ended up with a lot of white gunk.....fine shimmery gunk....no crystals. And it looks like it is a lot more than the cellulose was. It's still wet so maybe after it drys up it will be better.
Any ideas?
Thanks
I'll try and explain what my steps were really quick.
I used a little more heet during the dissolving and the 1st filter stage to rinse my jar that I dissolved the pellets in as well as rinsed the filter to wash the sides of it.
After the heet and dissolved pellets went through the coffee filter the liquid was still a little white so I filtered again just to be safe. Didn't get that much cellulose on the filter that time....could it have dissolve more and passed through filter??
Then I added over 500ml of ice cold water all at once to the heet/tren liquid. It turned milky white immediately.
Then I started to filter to extract the powder.....this process took for ever. I ended up having to use 3 different filters. I rinsed and re rinsed several times. After I filtered I would pour that liquid through another filter until it was clear.
I feel like I ended up with a lot of white gunk.....fine shimmery gunk....no crystals. And it looks like it is a lot more than the cellulose was. It's still wet so maybe after it drys up it will be better.
Any ideas?
Thanks
SuperLift
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This thread is 6 years old! lol just make it a sticky 
This thread is 6 years old! lol just make it a sticky
1/2 the posts in this thread are less than 2 months old and the majority of the posts in this thread are less than 1 year old.......i dont see your point dude!
Well the powder was less than i thought weight wise......looked like more volume than cellulose. I got 1.35 grams. 1st time. Might be better off just buying it. Hopefully next time is better.....debating if i should do wet method next.....any advice?
