Cops Pepper spray and handcuff 2nd grader

[Kathybird]

Do I concede that the pepper-spray went too far? Sure, I suppose so. This all comes down to bad parenting and a shit-bird kid. The cops came into a situation and made a judgment call on an asshole kid - too many asshole kids grow up to be bigger assholes because they weren't put in their place when it should have occurred. Then the mom just exacerbates the situation and the kids behavior further for more trouble down the road. If there was a rule that if a kid acted like a punk like that and got peppered, I bet the little punk wouldn't be too willing to take it there too many times. Middle eastern man caught stealing = hand cut off. Result? Allot less stealing. This is extreme, but you see my point. Yes, i know it's not the policemans job to parent - but for crissakes, when will the parenting start? We'll be paying for him in lockup in no time.

Cause and effect works both ways.

Had he put his hands on the kid he would have been sued.

The parents are certainly not adequate teachers in that regard either.

I agree with all the above. It's not the police's job to parent. They made a split second judgment call. I do wonder about specifics - if the kid was "barricaded" in a bunch of desks, how immediate was the danger?

If the cop that pepper sprayed him was incapable of taking away a wooden knife and restraining a kid that is a fraction of his size he should not be a cop!

Prince, that's a big 8 year old. Most of the guys on this forum seem to be "big" (y'all's joking about "big" aside), but if you've got a couple of average joe cops with a raving kid, it's a different story. Ever seen someone completely lose it? I don't mean just mad or hysterical, I mean someone with "problems" have an attack of some sort. It's scary.

 

[vortrit]

We should pepper spray Prince and put it on video to see if it really hurts that bad.

 

[Vick]

Makes me proud to be an American. Future authors will be redefining human traffickers.

 

[phosphor]

I see your points Prince, but I don't have a vendetta against cops either. They are thrown into a situation where they have to make a judgement call. A reprimand at most, but you know as well as I do that they will be dealing with this little prick long into the future - and we will be paying for it because everyone around him enables the behavior.

 

[KelJu]

Fits your other views - anyone not agreeing with you needs to be booted. typical. Unfortunately for you, the Admins here have open minds.

Are you really that retarded? Chill is a fake account made by one of our newer members that clogs up threads with stupid shit. I haven't agreed with you on one damn thing since you posted here, and I don't think you should be banned. As far as the saudi fag, we have more than enough scripture quoting Islamic Fundamentalist using open chat as a gateway for their propaganda, and I consider it spam.

 

[Arnold]

I see your points Prince, but I don't have a vendetta against cops either.

Neither do I, just think many are corrupt, many are just plain stupid, many are uneducated, and many are cops only because they have an issue with power, and many make terrible judgment calls all the time, I hear about when I watch the news.

 

[Arnold]

We should pepper spray Prince and put it on video to see if it really hurts that bad.

great post.

 

[KelJu]

I see your points Prince, but I don't have a vendetta against cops either. They are thrown into a situation where they have to make a judgement call. A reprimand at most, but you know as well as I do that they will be dealing with this little prick long into the future - and we will be paying for it because everyone around him enables the behavior.

I think juvi work farms would be a good idea.

 

[ALBOB]

8 years old = irrelevent
knife made of wood = irrelevent

What matters is that a stark raving hysterical person had a weapon and was threatening to kill others. If you've never been confronted with that situation you have absolutely NO business condemning the cop for his actions.

 

[DOMS]

Makes me proud to be an American. Future authors will be redefining human traffickers.

You're right, we need to kill more prisoners like China does. Then we'll place lower on that scale.

 

[phosphor]

Are you really that retarded? Chill is a fake account made by one of our newer members that clogs up threads with stupid shit. I haven't agreed with you on one damn thing since you posted here, and I don't think you should be banned. As far as the saudi fag, we have more than enough scripture quoting Islamic Fundamentalist using open chat as a gateway for their propaganda.

Oh dude, my bad. I thought we were having another e-penis fight. I thought you were directing your dark-side of the force onto me. I didn't know that alts discovered were supposed to remain on the boards. Again, my bad.

 

[jagbender]

Take his damn video games away you fat bitch, and show him how to behave in the outside world. I would had gave my kid a good spanking if he ever threatened to kill someone.

No doubt!!!!! The little troll has no idea of reality!
he needed to get his little ass beat and his Dumb ass mom too!

TOO MUCH VIDEO GAME AND NOT ENOUGH REALITY!

MOM'S BABYSITTER GRAND THEFT AUTO

 

[Chill]

8 years old = irrelevent
knife made of wood = irrelevent

What matters is that a stark raving hysterical person had a weapon and was threatening to kill others. If you've never been confronted with that situation you have absolutely NO business condemning the cop for his actions.

If the kid had a pistol it would be different.

But overracting about a knife or wood (close range weapons) is totally ridiculous.

 

[KelJu]

Oh dude, my bad. I thought we were having another e-penis fight. I thought you were directing your dark-side of the force onto me. I didn't know that alts discovered were supposed to remain on the boards. Again, my bad.

Don't get all butt hurt. You said that I thought anyone I didn't agree with should by banned, and I explained how you are wrong.

 

[SFW]

to the assholes who think you cant stab someone with a wooden stake...wtf were our ancestors killing animals with before forging metal into weapons? Yes, i know...There wasnt a spearhead on the thing but still. He learned a valuable lesson im sure. Drop a weapon when a cop tells you to.

Fuck this lil kid. He should be removed from the custody of his mother and she should be forced to attend parenting classes. Give these pigs a medal....lil fucking shit stain wields a stake at me, id mace his ass too.

 

[Chill]

lil fucking shit stain wields a stake at me, id mace his ass too.

So apparently you're not agile enough to dodge his attacks.

Or man enough to muscle him down to the ground.

 

[SFW]

How do you know the dimensions of the room? Or whether or not the cop had enough space to perform acrobatics? gimme a fucking break. So cops have to be trained in martial arts now? The little prick got what he deserved.

You liberal pussies kill me. This kid needs a beaten

 

[Vick]

You're right, we need to kill more prisoners like China does. Then we'll place lower on that scale.

Live free or die was the motto of my ancestors and still on NH license plates. I'm more for natural selection, improves a species. Preservation of life perpetuates disease. We should be drafting prisoners rather than sending over our intelligent youth to get raped by superior officers while experienced personnel are over here stalking commuters and pepper spraying kids.

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[Chill]

How do you know the dimensions of the room? Or whether or not the cop had enough space to perform acrobatics? gimme a fucking break. So cops have to be trained in martial arts now? The little prick got what he deserved.

You liberal pussies kill me. This kid needs a beaten

No you gimme me a fucking break, and a rational post to boot.

If cops are trained properly to have good reaction time, they can get the job done no matter what.

I've seen grown fat men being taken down in small quarters by skilled and alert officers.

 

[maniclion]

THE KID IS A SECOND GRADER! He is three fucking feet tall! How god damn dangerous can a three feet tall 6 year-old with a wooden stick be? You people are fucking nuts.

Police exist in the executive branch, not the judicial branch. It is the job of cops to protect and serve, not teach little spoiled brat kids a lesson. The mentality of a cop that would do this is dangerous. The cop should be fired for having the common sense of a peanut.

My ex-step-mother worked at a school for special needs kids, some with behavioral problems....some of those kids were dirty little heathens who would shove a pencil up their own ass and try to stab you, or they'd play in their own shit and then if you got scratched you're fucked.... The cop had no way of knowing whether this little butt-nugget had done any of this nor did he know if he might be dealing with "retard-strength"...Yeah it's real my step-mom said it took six teachers to hold a downs-syndrome kid down when he started punching himself in the face and then dropped to the ground and started smashing his head on the floor....

 

[phosphor]

Don't get all butt hurt. You said that I thought anyone I didn't agree with should by banned, and I explained how you are wrong.

Well, now I am butthurt. I was apologizing - and it's not easy to admit being wrong to someone so diametrically opposed to me from flavors of ice cream to social issues. I offer a flowery peace offering to you for today only.

 

[vortrit]

Don't get all butt hurt.

No, no. You're doing it wrong!

 

[KelJu]

Well, now I am butthurt. I was apologizing - and it's not easy to admit being wrong to someone so diametrically opposed to me from flavors of ice cream to social issues. I offer a flowery peace offering to you for today only.

My apologies for being an over bearing rude and obnoxious jerk. If you post here very long you will realize that am not really as hateful as I sound, but my thought processes work a lot like Lewis Black throwing a tantrum.

 

[DOMS]

 

[ALBOB]

If the kid had a pistol it would be different.

But overracting about a knife or wood (close range weapons) is totally ridiculous.

No, it would absolutely NOT be different. Like I said before; many MANY times firearms have been determined to be an appropriate response to a person weilding a knife. If you're even remotely serious about this subject you should do some research.

 

[Chill]

No, it would absolutely NOT be different. Like I said before; many MANY times firearms have been determined to be an appropriate response to a person weilding a knife. If you're even remotely serious about this subject you should do some research.

One thing that is serious, is your ability to rationalize is very alarming.

Putting bullets in an 8 year old with some wood is quite appropriate.

Not excessive at all. And kids who run with pencils and scissors should get the same.

 

[ALBOB]

No you gimme me a fucking break, and a rational post to boot.

If cops are trained properly to have good reaction time, they can get the job done no matter what.

I've seen grown fat men being taken down in small quarters by skilled and alert officers.

Here's a clue to put in your obviously empty bag, you can't train reflexive actions.

I've seen grown MUSCULAR men being taken down by petite women.

 

[Arnold]

we will see what the judge says when the parents sue the city and the cop for excessive force on an 8 year child.

 

[KelJu]

we will see what the judge says when the parents sue the city and the cop for excessive force on an 8 year child.

Yep, see this here pretty much neutralizes the bullshit on contact, and brings the issue into a realm of reality. All of the shit talking, armchair parenting, and hypothetical situations mean nothing. In the land of the law, cops don't get to pepper spray 6 year old children. That stupid fat bitch will probably get a huge settlement, and that worthless kid will probably get a trust fund setup for his spoiled ass, so he can have a cool car when he turns 16.

All of this because of some cowboy shit for brains didn't have the common sense or decency to subdue a small child rather than fill his face with chemical mace.

 

[Chill]

Here's a clue to put in your obviously empty bag, you can't train reflexive actions.

Officers are trained to be alert and expect the unexpected.

Usually results in one developing sharp reflexive actions.

I've seen grown MUSCULAR men being taken down by petite women.

And its always good for a laugh.