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Exactly, common sense may say its not a good idea, but if no one tries it how will we know? Common sense would tell you it's impossible to go to the moon, but that doesn't mean it's true :p stupid example I know but you get what I'm saying. Even if they were to do a legit study that would just mean someone has to pin tren for months at a time and get lab work done. Since no medical professionals that we know of are doing it, someone has to.
 
I don't drink either, had a total of 3 drinks in the last 4 years. 2 light beers and a hard lemonade, and I only drank because it was holidays.

Don't really have too much of an opinion on your tren "cruise idea.

Let me ask you this, if you don't have pro goals in mind, then why go to such extremes?

I know that I wouldn't do half the shit I do if I didn't have very high and hard to achieve goals.


perhaps, but if my math is correct, had zane been as tall as arnold, he would have weighed 240lbs (im not great with volume calculations but im pretty sure im right..)

Anyways.. i see the term gear "abuse" being thrown.. pretty loosely around here. It becomes abuse when the individual is damaging himself, yet continues gear without any alteration or change in his method/dosing/whatever.. a bit presumptuous to throw around a phrase like that, especially at me.

i get regular checkups, tests, etc to make sure im in good shape.. shit i think im the only one on this board who doesnt drink alcohol.. a lot of guys here drink while using orals.. and im the one abusing gear?

i strongly believe, that running tren with a lower dose of test is easier on the body, because it is not affected by aromataze or 5-alpha reductase. I also believe that the only reason why tren damages the liver is because of the BA content in it..as far as i know there is no evidence that it is bad for the kidneys.. rather rust colored metabolites being excreted.
we shall see who is right.
 
I don't drink either, had a total of 3 drinks in the last 4 years. 2 light beers and a hard lemonade, and I only drank because it was holidays.

Don't really have too much of an opinion on your tren "cruise idea.

Let me ask you this, if you don't have pro goals in mind, then why go to such extremes?

I know that I wouldn't do half the shit I do if I didn't have very high and hard to achieve goals.

Great post vibrant


- SHREK
 
I don't drink either, had a total of 3 drinks in the last 4 years. 2 light beers and a hard lemonade, and I only drank because it was holidays.

Don't really have too much of an opinion on your tren "cruise idea.

Let me ask you this, if you don't have pro goals in mind, then why go to such extremes?

I know that I wouldn't do half the shit I do if I didn't have very high and hard to achieve goals.

i havent had a drop in 6 years, and never will again.

it isn't "my tren cruise idea", rather, the idea of an individual who did much research for shering and organon.. he prescribes it very widely to his patients who he monitors.


tbh im terrified at the thought of growing old.. not dying, but growing old. I want to have a young fit capable body until the day i die.

im also pretty uncomfortable in my own skn and i want to be beautiful.. :gay:
 
I don't drink either, had a total of 3 drinks in the last 4 years. 2 light beers and a hard lemonade, and I only drank because it was holidays.

Don't really have too much of an opinion on your tren "cruise idea.

Let me ask you this, if you don't have pro goals in mind, then why go to such extremes?

I know that I wouldn't do half the shit I do if I didn't have very high and hard to achieve goals.


also, we are not exactly sure how "extreme" this cruising scheme is..yet.
 
Gears! :daydream:
 
I think SD justs wants to corner the Tren Market
 
Come on SD lets be real, if you were in it to be healthy and look pretty you would have never touched gear. None of us would have. If we wanted to be pretty and healthy on gear we would run a few primo, var, GH cycles a year. But we don't. So don't try to say its to look pretty or ur doing it for some bs company cuz u ain't. Ur doing it cuz ur a sick fuck like the most of us in the gear game that either want to push ourselves as far as we can to achieve certain goals or feed an insecurity that can never be fed. Tren by definition is one of the strongest if not the strongest AAS so if one were truly trying to be healthy one would never touch it


- SHREK
 
I would think that after so much time went by (3 months +), all the feedback loops within the muscle cells would start increase and return the muscle growth to homeostasis
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On the flip side, I wonder if it would be better than a larger dose of just test as far as trt, because tren resists reduction to DHT (or maybe entirely I forget), so maybe it would be easier on people who are prone to prostate enlargement?
 
I would think that after so much time went by (3 months +), all the feedback loops within the muscle cells would start increase and return the muscle growth to homeostasis
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On the flip side, I wonder if it would be better than a larger dose of just test as far as trt, because tren resists reduction to DHT (or maybe entirely I forget), so maybe it would be easier on people who are prone to prostate enlargement?

could someone explain this?

does it have any validity to it at all?
 
Come on SD lets be real, if you were in it to be healthy and look pretty you would have never touched gear. None of us would have. If we wanted to be pretty and healthy on gear we would run a few primo, var, GH cycles a year. But we don't. So don't try to say its to look pretty or ur doing it for some bs company cuz u ain't. Ur doing it cuz ur a sick fuck like the most of us in the gear game that either want to push ourselves as far as we can to achieve certain goals or feed an insecurity that can never be fed. Tren by definition is one of the strongest if not the strongest AAS so if one were truly trying to be healthy one would never touch it


- SHREK

This is the truth for 99.9% of users in my mind also.

Great post.
 
Come on SD lets be real, if you were in it to be healthy and look pretty you would have never touched gear. None of us would have. If we wanted to be pretty and healthy on gear we would run a few primo, var, GH cycles a year. But we don't. So don't try to say its to look pretty or ur doing it for some bs company cuz u ain't. Ur doing it cuz ur a sick fuck like the most of us in the gear game that either want to push ourselves as far as we can to achieve certain goals or feed an insecurity that can never be fed. Tren by definition is one of the strongest if not the strongest AAS so if one were truly trying to be healthy one would never touch it



- SHREK
This is absolutely true. BRB haven't had my daily cc of tren yet :daydream:
 
Come on SD lets be real, if you were in it to be healthy and look pretty you would have never touched gear. None of us would have. If we wanted to be pretty and healthy on gear we would run a few primo, var, GH cycles a year. But we don't. So don't try to say its to look pretty or ur doing it for some bs company cuz u ain't. Ur doing it cuz ur a sick fuck like the most of us in the gear game that either want to push ourselves as far as we can to achieve certain goals or feed an insecurity that can never be fed. Tren by definition is one of the strongest if not the strongest AAS so if one were truly trying to be healthy one would never touch it


- SHREK


i wouldnt be surprised if tren was healthier than anavar though, especially when it comes to lipids. Just because something is very powerful doesnt mean it's very dangerous.

you are 100% right though, and there is no argument from me haha
 
very very wrong pupil,, very very wrong,, high trenbolona ace = better fucks,, harder fucks,, and really need! to fuck ,, you will hav eot hav eporn on computer woman wont be able to keep up,, trenbolona = jesus from nazareth blood in a vial

gh15 approved
 
i know it doesnt matter, but im using tren E, not A. and just because there isnt a study showing that tren is safe to cruise on, doesnt mean it isnt safe..

that's like saying since you cant prove that god doesnt exist, then he exists, and vice versa.

I did read those studies but I am no doctor or researcher. I will point out that after you subtract the ester weight, he is getting what, 10.4mgs of tren per day roughly (assuming 72mg without ester)? That is a pretty unsubstantial dose compared to what so many cycle on. I will say the idea of a cruise with it is not something I would do personally but let him try it and stop judging before we even have a clue if there are any negatives that blood work will show.
 
I did read those studies but I am no doctor or researcher. I will point out that after you subtract the ester weight, he is getting what, 10.4mgs of tren per day roughly (assuming 72mg without ester)? That is a pretty unsubstantial dose compared to what so many cycle on. I will say the idea of a cruise with it is not something I would do personally but let him try it and stop judging before we even have a clue if there are any negatives that blood work will show.

i have a feeling a lot of these guys would argue the world is flat... back in the day
 
see? there u go again lol.. there is no way you could possibly know this for a fact.. it's just sensational nonsense. Im not saying that i do have the genetics of a professional bodybuilder, but come on.. enough of the nonsense please.

even if i did have the genes to be a pro, i wouldnt want to be.. it's a full on 24/7 job that is only appreciated and admired by the people who understand it (barely anyone). The amount of drugs i would have to take, and pinning that i would have to do + doctor visits every 2-3 weeks in order to get a CHANCE at being paid (have to win).. just doesnt sound worthwhile.

i do want to look good, but most importantly i want to be healthy. we have kinda gotten off track here, as this thread is about cruising on tren E, it's affect on general health and wellbeing.. not being a professional bodybuilder

had to break it to you but 1.6 grams (or anywhere near that amount) of AAS is not "healthy". Shit AAS in general is not a healthy practice. When you take that much gear heart enlargement, LVH and other issues take a toll on your health. Especially years of use. It adds up.
 
had to break it to you but 1.6 grams (or anywhere near that amount) of AAS is not "healthy". Shit AAS in general is not a healthy practice. When you take that much gear heart enlargement, LVH and other issues take a toll on your health. Especially years of use. It adds up.

yeah.. but anything over 200mg of test/week will cause problems of some sort. i only run 10 week cycles then go on my cruise.

im definitely going to keep a close eye on things, but i havent heard of too many cases of bodybuilders dying from that kind of stuff.. besides brundel
 
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Any updates on this ??

Howd the cruise go
 
well im still alive, not sure what more you are looking for other than that :coffee:


dropped a lot of water... a lot, and strength held up as did mass until my next and current blast. I think im gunna be cruising on tren/eq and a little bit of test for a while after this, probably about 300-350mg of gear total
 
Did u get bloodwork?

i think it's funny people think cruising on low dose tren is a death wish but 16 week tren abusers are ok.

So a 16 week tren abuser is ok but a 8 week tren blast then 4 week tren cruise is retarded?

I don't even post on half this shit because people on boards are so retarded its pointless to argue.
 
I didnt read this thread just the title but I can tell you cruising on tren , if nothing else , will totally trash your lipid profile. Also it will result in issues with your immune system function as well as bone mineral density etc. It will shut down test production with no test - no e. While it may suffice to a degree from an androgen standpoint we also need estrogen. Also the progestin effect mimicking progesterone will destroy lipids and with no estrogen to improve lipids you will be a hot mess in that regard as well as the other areas mentioned.
Edit - Just read Op. 100mgs test isnt gonna be enough to offset the effects i mentioned above - no way. Just change my "no estrogen" to not enough estrogen.
 
I didnt read this thread just the title but I can tell you cruising on tren , if nothing else , will totally trash your lipid profile. Also it will result in issues with your immune system function as well as bone mineral density etc. It will shut down test production with no test - no e. While it may suffice to a degree from an androgen standpoint we also need estrogen. Also the progestin effect mimicking progesterone will destroy lipids and with no estrogen to improve lipids you will be a hot mess in that regard as well as the other areas mentioned.
Edit - Just read Op. 100mgs test isnt gonna be enough to offset the effects i mentioned above - no way. Just change my "no estrogen" to not enough estrogen.


:coffee:
 
So did you ever get labs? You mentioned getting them with plans to post them. I was curious and still am.
 
So did you ever get labs? You mentioned getting them with plans to post them. I was curious and still am.


not yet ima get them on my next cruise period tho, overburdened made a claim regarding ptren claiming that it drastrically imrpoved his lipid profile, so im waiting to try that out
 
not yet ima get them on my next cruise period tho, overburdened made a claim regarding ptren claiming that it drastrically imrpoved his lipid profile, so im waiting to try that out

Well how you going to know if it greatly does anything for you if you have no pre-ptren labs? :coffee:
 
Well how you going to know if it greatly does anything for you if you have no pre-ptren labs? :coffee:


he said that it improved his ldl and triglycerides, which after how much gear ive been using by all means should be fucked unless im unique in the way aas affects my lipid profile
 
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