cutting training

[raider6969]

cutting trianing

i want to understand the point of weight training with heavy wights while cutting,if ur gonna lose lean body mass anyway?

 

[Arnold]

It's based on the principle of "disuse", which basically means "use it or lose it".

If you you start using lighter weight your body does not have a reason to retain the increased muscle. The reason that your body increases muscle size is you gave it a reason to adapt.

 

[raider6969]

ok but y did i get weaker when i started cutting causing me to decrease the weights while training, making me weaker(losing lbm)?

 

[Robboe]

Cause your powers of recovery are affected by less calories.

 

[Robboe]

Re: cutting trianing

Originally posted by raider6969
i want to understand the point of weight training with heavy wights while cutting,if ur gonna lose lean body mass anyway?

By the way, the idea is to minimise LBM loss, or even build some if you cycle high calorie/carb days correctly and follow a "sensible" diet (i.e not a "crash" diet).

 

[raider6969]

is there a way to totally prevent loss of lbm? or near pevention?

 

[Robboe]

Keep lifting like you are when "bulking" and follow a sensible diet that slowly reduces calories where necessary.

Other than that, it really depends on what bodyfat % you're currently at and what bodyfat % you want to get to.

 

[raider6969]

im 12% bf right now, i wanna get to at least 7%. i was over 20% when i started cutting. i have lost some strength in the meanwhile. i was dropping 200 cals a day every 1 to 2 weeks.u think any supplement would help prevent loss of lbm?

 

[Robboe]

Yeah, 'Sensibolics 3000'.

 

[raider6969]

what does it do?

 

[Robboe]

It prevents you from dropping calories too low too quick, whilst including regular refeeds when necessary to prevent your metabolism crashing and maybe promoting some anabolism.

 

[raider6969]

how does it prevent u dropping cals too quickly? cant u prevent that by urself ?

 

[Robboe]

Voodoo...mostly.

 

[raider6969]

lol, thanx for ur help

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by raider6969
is there a way to totally prevent loss of lbm?

yup, steroids.

 

[raider6969]

what about glutamine supplement? i know its found in protein powders and meat, is it enough for our muscles or we need the supplement? does it minize loss of muscle?

 

[Arnold]

I take 15 grams of L-Glutamine per day via supplement form, but there is a lack of scientific evidence/support to conclude what Glutamine really does or does not do.

Personally, I recommend it if money is not an object, cause it's not cheap.

 

[raider6969]

do u take it after training? have u seen the difference since u started using it?

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by raider6969
do u take it after training? have u seen the difference since u started using it?

Yes, with morning shake, after training (most important time) and before bed.

 

[Jodi]

Re: cutting trianing

Originally posted by raider6969
i want to understand the point of weight training with heavy wights while cutting,if ur gonna lose lean body mass anyway?

Apparantly Raider6969 you don't believe a word I've been telling you for the past ohh what, 4 months. I've been telling you that you dropped cals too quickly. What makes you feel that I don't know what I'm talking about? You've asked the same question 3-4 times now and I've kept answering your question but you seem to not trust what I've been trying to tell you. Are you happy you have other people telling you the same thing now.

 

[Twin Peak]

Re: Re: cutting trianing

Originally posted by Jodi
Apparantly Raider6969 you don't believe a word I've been telling you for the past ohh what, 4 months. I've been telling you that you dropped cals too quickly. What makes you feel that I don't know what I'm talking about? You've asked the same question 3-4 times now and I've kept answering your question but you seem to not trust what I've been trying to tell you. Are you happy you have other people telling you the same thing now.

LMAO

 

[Jodi]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Yeah, 'Sensibolics 3000'.

 

[Fit Freak]

This is too funny.....go Jodi..lmfao!

 

[raider6969]

first of all, jodi ,it wasnt 4 months ago, unless u dont know how to count. second of all ,no one asked u to reply to my threads.third of all , according to a pro bodybuilder who trains in the same gym as i do , told me that u dont know what ur talking about ,telling me i dropped my cals to fast. thats the reason i seeked asnwer from other members than you.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by raider6969
first of all, jodi ,it wasnt 4 months ago, unless u dont know how to count. second of all ,no one asked u to reply to my threads.third of all , according to a pro bodybuilder who trains in the same gym as i do , told me that u dont know what ur talking about ,telling me i dropped my cals to fast. thats the reason i seeked asnwer from other members than you.

Why don't you just listen to your pro bodybuilder then?

 

[Jodi]

Thank you TP!

My sentiments exactly because everyone here is going to tell you what I've been telling you. And for another thing, you don't have to be so fucking rude... I was only trying to help

Oh and I cleary remember This Thread about you being stuck so I guess your Pro Bodybuilder did a lot of good for ya.

 

[ZECH]

Your 6' and over 200lb..........and you only eat 2100 cal/day and expect to keep muscle??
I bet Jodi eats more than that. You may not always agree with people here, but I agree with Jodi. Don't be rude. Take it all in stride. And I can tell you this also. No matter how much you know, you will ALWAYS learn new things!!!!! Keep an open mind!

 

[Arnold]

Originally posted by raider6969
according to a pro bodybuilder who trains in the same gym as i do, told me that u dont know what ur talking about.

There is nothing wrong with getting many opinions and evaluating them all.

However, be careful of the advice you get from a "pro bodybuilder", some are very educated and intelligent, others are not. Just because he is a pro and he is huge, etc. is not always the best indicator of his knowledge.

Why?

Well, it's possible that this pro has awesome genetics and takes a boat load of drugs, hence his success. Maybe not.

 

[J'Bo]

Re: Re: cutting trianing

Originally posted by Jodi
Apparantly Raider6969 you don't believe a word I've been telling you for the past ohh what, 4 months. I've been telling you that you dropped cals too quickly. What makes you feel that I don't know what I'm talking about? You've asked the same question 3-4 times now and I've kept answering your question but you seem to not trust what I've been trying to tell you. Are you happy you have other people telling you the same thing now.

It is simply because we are chicks...dont worry about it....these type of boys never get to where they want to go without our help.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by Prince
Well, it's possible that this pro has awesome genetics and takes a boat load of drugs, hence his success. Maybe not.

Change "possible" to "most definite", if he is indeed a "pro". Of course, he *could* in addition, know what he is talking about, but more likely than not, anything he said would be completely inapplicable to anyone not in his exact situation.

What I don't understand is if this guy has such a great resource as a "pro bodybuilder" in his gym, why he even needs to be asking questions here? Puzzling.