Cycle A, B, C - Choose one!

[604Guy]

26years old
2 cycles experience
8years training (3 years consistently)
150lbs 8% fat currently (max weight 175lbs 16% bf)
Goal: Gain mass
Concerns: Penis limp (deca dick)

Cycle A

1 - 16 Test e or c 500 mg ew
1 - 14 Deca 400 mg ew
6 - 10 dbol 30 mg ed
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle B

1 - 6 dbol 30 mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
7 - 14 Tren Ace 75mg eod
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle C

1 - 14 EQ 300mg ew
6 - 12 Dbol 30mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5

 

[TwisT]

B

 

[bassonjigs]

B

 

[GreatWhiteTruth]

Well if your concern is deca-dick, from the point of wanting to avoid it at all costs, then definitely go with cycle C, though your gains aren't going to be as explosive and clean as cycle B.

Now if you are asking to choose a preferred cycle, personally I would go with B for sure. Just make sure you pick up some caber just in case.

 

[604Guy]

i'm thinking 70% for cycle A, and 30% for cycle B lol...bouncing back and forth

 

[Mr.BIG]

I corrected what I think would be best, this is how I would run this cycle if I were you!


Cycle A

1 - 8 Test e or c 600 mg EW split into twice a week @ 300mg each
9 -16 Test Eor C 750mg EW split into twice a week @ 375mg each
1 - 14 Deca 400 mg ew
1-4 dbol 30mg -50mg ed
18 - 22 Clomid 100/75/50/50
18 - 22 aromasin at 25\25\12.5\12.5

 

[SloppyJ]

Doses seemed low in all of them IMO.

 

[Mr.BIG]

Doses seemed low in all of them IMO.

Deca at 400mg a week just means you need more test to combat the so called deca dick, the norm is twice the amount, although I believe the numbers I put up he should be ok! I also didn't understand the purpose of running dbol weeks 6-10 instead of weeks 1-4!

 

[SloppyJ]

Deca at 400mg a week just means you need more test to combat the so called deca dick, the norm is twice the amount, although I believe the numbers I put up he should be ok! I also didn't understand the purpose of running dbol weeks 6-10 instead of weeks 1-4!

I agree with that. And I can see why he would run the dbol later in the cycle if he kickstarted with prop. I've did that last time and I loved it. But he doesn't mention any sort of short ester up front so if that's the case, the dbol would be good as a kickstart.

 

[bigbenj]

B

 

[carmineb]

26years old
2 cycles experience
8years training (3 years consistently)
150lbs 8% fat currently (max weight 175lbs 16% bf)
Goal: Gain mass
Concerns: Penis limp (deca dick)

Cycle A

1 - 16 Test e or c 500 mg ew
1 - 14 Deca 400 mg ew
6 - 10 dbol 30 mg ed
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle B

1 - 6 dbol 30 mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
7 - 14 Tren Ace 75mg eod
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5


Cycle C

1 - 14 EQ 300mg ew
6 - 12 Dbol 30mg ed
1 - 16 Test e 500mg ew
18 - 22 nolva at 20\20\20\10
18 - 23 aromasin at 25\25\25\12.5\12.5

why r u running BOTH an AI (aromasin) and a SERM(nolva) for pct?

 

[604Guy]

why r u running BOTH an AI (aromasin) and a SERM(nolva) for pct?

Was told and agreed by some of the senior members of another forum and they'll agreed to this. They wrote it and I post i..

 

[OfficerFarva]

why r u running BOTH an AI (aromasin) and a SERM(nolva) for pct?

Durrrrrrrrr, me no how to tipe and ask smart question.

 

[carmineb]

i dont know what was so dumb of my question???

an AI assists the body in not converting test to estrogen thus keeps test levels higher longer. since teh body is never allowed to reach homostatis, it wil ahve a higher test to estrogen ratio while on cycle.

the benefit of this is when you get off your cycle, and you ahve little test naturally, the nolva isnt fighting a rebound for estrogen, it is just sucking up what excess there is while natural test rebuilds.

OTHERWISE you get a shit load of estrogen with your cycle thru conversion and then you got to deal with it after cycle.

i ahve always been told AI on, SERM off. Or Nolva (serm) to fight a specific issue like gyno during


Thre are several articles I have read by peole who are leaders in the field, what I said is a concensus of what they have said.

 

[LightBearer]

D-
1-12 Test-E or P 600mg wk
1-10 NPP-350-400mg wk
Aromasin on cycle and pct
Clomid pct
Dbol kicker if you want
I think NPP would give you better gains than eq and less sides than deca since its the shorter version