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P-funk said:
yes, those are dislocates....

Cool, thanks.


The mobility stuff is just dynamic stretching (ballistic stretching). I do it to get the body moving and blood flowing a little bit. The activation things are more like exercises (x-band walks, tubing drillls, bridging)....it would be like doing those things without warming up at all. So, I start by adressing my joint mobility and getting everything moving and then progress to activating certain muscles that need work (glutes, shoulders, etc..). See what I mean?

A lot of the activation things are actual exercises that I need to use for begning clients that are totally deconditioned.

I see your point, but when I do activation work I usually progress from the easiest of movements to harder ones. One glute activation exercise I've begun to do, for example, is a kneeling squat with my bodyweight. I just focus on extending only the hips and maintaining the degree of spinal extension throughout the movement. Then I might do some glute bridges. Then maybe some uni glute bridges on a med ball with my inactive thigh pulled tight to my body. I feel like getting some blood flowing to the muscles a little bit before doing the dynamic flexibility work would be a good idea, although it really probably doesn't matter all that much in the end.

When dealing with clients, I understand what you mean, but I was more intending to use this information in the context of my own workouts. There are lots of deconditioned people that can barely do exercises that I take for grantite. I'm learning this more; it blows my mind sometimes how bad some people can be. Thankfully they usually give those people to the couple of guys that have rehabilitation experience, and the clients I get are usually in halfway decent shape.

Actually, I almost crave getting someone in really bad shape. Program design would be more of a challenge. I do have a client with spinal stenosis, but as far as I can tell there isn't much one can do to improve on that situation through exercise because no exercise is going to increase the diameter of here vertebral canals, heh.
 
CowPimp said:
Cool, thanks.




I see your point, but when I do activation work I usually progress from the easiest of movements to harder ones. One glute activation exercise I've begun to do, for example, is a kneeling squat with my bodyweight. I just focus on extending only the hips and maintaining the degree of spinal extension throughout the movement. Then I might do some glute bridges. Then maybe some uni glute bridges on a med ball with my inactive thigh pulled tight to my body. I feel like getting some blood flowing to the muscles a little bit before doing the dynamic flexibility work would be a good idea, although it really probably doesn't matter all that much in the end.

When dealing with clients, I understand what you mean, but I was more intending to use this information in the context of my own workouts. There are lots of deconditioned people that can barely do exercises that I take for grantite. I'm learning this more; it blows my mind sometimes how bad some people can be. Thankfully they usually give those people to the couple of guys that have rehabilitation experience, and the clients I get are usually in halfway decent shape.

Actually, I almost crave getting someone in really bad shape. Program design would be more of a challenge. I do have a client with spinal stenosis, but as far as I can tell there isn't much one can do to improve on that situation through exercise because no exercise is going to increase the diameter of here vertebral canals, heh.


I think in the end it doesn't matter which order you do them in. I mean, really, it is all semantics, lol. The dynamic flexability stuff can be looked at as activation etc...They are all just "sexy" industry buzz words to wow clients. I just call it all movement prep. The important thing is that you do it.

Yup, when I first became a trainer I was really surprised at what people coudn't do. That level of disbelief never goes away though. Even though I know some people are wrecks, I am still amazed at the fact that they can't do some really basic things. I mean, these people have not MOVED in years!!
 
P-funk said:
I think in the end it doesn't matter which order you do them in. I mean, really, it is all semantics, lol. The dynamic flexability stuff can be looked at as activation etc...They are all just "sexy" industry buzz words to wow clients. I just call it all movement prep. The important thing is that you do it.

Yeah, you're right. I definitely overanalyze things sometimes. I just like to do it right, heh.


Yup, when I first became a trainer I was really surprised at what people coudn't do. That level of disbelief never goes away though. Even though I know some people are wrecks, I am still amazed at the fact that they can't do some really basic things. I mean, these people have not MOVED in years!!

I know. I'm like WTF, don't you get tired of sitting and laying down all the time?! I mean, I like to be lazy and chill sometimes too, but Jesus!
 
Guess that explains something. The guy I hired to teach me how to deadlift (and other stuff, but that was the motivating factor) made me do a bunch of random things first, before he would show me anything. Apparently a coach/trainer can't trust somebody to be in shape when they say they are.
Of course, I was just aggitated...and a bad client! Like when he wanted me to do pushups for a minute...I got bored at 50 and told him I wasn't doing any more :lol: Amongst other bratty things.
 
ablc said:
Guess that explains something. The guy I hired to teach me how to deadlift (and other stuff, but that was the motivating factor) made me do a bunch of random things first, before he would show me anything. Apparently a coach/trainer can't trust somebody to be in shape when they say they are.
Of course, I was just aggitated...and a bad client! Like when he wanted me to do pushups for a minute...I got bored at 50 and told him I wasn't doing any more :lol: Amongst other bratty things.


you wouldn't have lasted long with me. :laugh:

I would have probably told you to just leave.
 
Here's a great client interview question I like...

Trainer: "Give me 100 Push ups."
Client does not even attempt
Client: "I can't."
Trainer: "Goodbye."
 
Dale Mabry said:
Here's a great client interview question I like...

Trainer: "Give me 100 Push ups."
Client does not even attempt
Client: "I can't."
Trainer: "Goodbye."

:laugh:

Sounds like me training some of my people.

This one woman i train at a gym in her building and she fucking baterdizes reps. She will rush through tings because it is hard, she will do half reps. I just yell at her. One day there was another trainer in there with his client and she was complaining and using sloppy form and I said "Hey! Slow down and do it right. Those are shitty reps and shitty reps get shitty results. And worse then that, you are an embarrassment to me." The other trainer and his client just starred with their jaws on the ground and couldn't believe I said that. My client slowed down her reps did them properly. :D
 
4/25/06

BW- 173 (looked ripped this AM....expecially after my workout. Who the fuck cares though?.....it is only 173lbs)

Next week is a complete week off of training. 7 days!


This week I want to keep the bar off my back to give myself a break so no squatting movements or olympic movments.

So what did I do??

Lactic Acid training!!


Dynamic warm up

Circuit:
sets- 3
reps- 10
RI between exercises- 20sec
RI after circuit between sets- 2min.


Plyometric step ups- 10 reps (5 with each leg, alternating each rep)
squat w/Db press- 35lbs first set. 45lbs second and third sets.
chin ups- BW
bike interval- 30sec, Lv. 12, RPM > 125


After that I moved to some moderate duration intervals on the bike
5 intervals (10min)
60sec work:60sec rest
LV. 10 for work : LV. 5 for rest
 
P-funk said:
:laugh:

Sounds like me training some of my people.

This one woman i train at a gym in her building and she fucking baterdizes reps. She will rush through tings because it is hard, she will do half reps. I just yell at her. One day there was another trainer in there with his client and she was complaining and using sloppy form and I said "Hey! Slow down and do it right. Those are shitty reps and shitty reps get shitty results. And worse then that, you are an embarrassment to me." The other trainer and his client just starred with their jaws on the ground and couldn't believe I said that. My client slowed down her reps did them properly. :D

I had a friend that only counted good reps, some of his clients were doing 20 reps on a 12 rep set he was so strict. I do that with movement stuff, i am of the belief that every time you do something wrong, you erase a time you did it right. So, if you cut wrong, you cut again to make up for the good rep you lost, and then you cut again to make up for the bad one that didn't count. I actually did that with cleans to get them right for myself. That was a lot of reps.
 
P-funk said:
So what did I do??

Lactic Acid training!!


Hahahahahaha, fuck that.
 
P-funk said:
you wouldn't have lasted long with me. :laugh:

I would have probably told you to just leave.

I'd understand that if I'd hired the guy as a trainer, but I hired him to teach me how to deadlift. That was our agreement. And then he has me on the elliptical, doing db RDL's, pushups, pullups, splits (both legs foward, and center), crunches...nothing I was paying for, or had agreed to.
At a minimum, I hope you'd be less patronising...which is what set me off the most about the pushups. "Can you do male pushups?" "What do you mean...am I lacking certain anatomy?"
 
ablc said:
I'd understand that if I'd hired the guy as a trainer, but I hired him to teach me how to deadlift. That was our agreement. And then he has me on the elliptical, doing db RDL's, pushups, pullups, splits (both legs foward, and center), crunches...nothing I was paying for, or had agreed to.
At a minimum, I hope you'd be less patronising...which is what set me off the most about the pushups. "Can you do male pushups?" "What do you mean...am I lacking certain anatomy?"


why would you hire him to just teach you deadlifts? He probably was trying to sell you full training, even though you agreed on just deadlifts.

If you walked up to me in the gym and asked me to give you help on deadlifts I would just give you help on deadlifts. Knowing full well that you don't want me to train you, you just want to learn the exercise.
 
Dale Mabry said:
I had a friend that only counted good reps, some of his clients were doing 20 reps on a 12 rep set he was so strict. I do that with movement stuff, i am of the belief that every time you do something wrong, you erase a time you did it right. So, if you cut wrong, you cut again to make up for the good rep you lost, and then you cut again to make up for the bad one that didn't count. I actually did that with cleans to get them right for myself. That was a lot of reps.


yea, I do that with people too. they usualy hate squatting....lol.


Hahahahahaha, fuck that.

yea not shit! it sucked.
 
Yes, he did attempt to sell me on a full training thing...3x/week, yada yada. And while he knows his stuff, I can only take him in small doses...don't know if that says more about him or me. Plus, I'm cheap. I'm 21 with a mortgage...not in a position to be paying someone else's, ya know?

I hired him to teach me to deadlift because I was scared to talk to Jill, and she's the only one whose schedule I knew who I knew I could trust...but then there was this guy, who somebody made an appointment with for me. I got what I wanted, just the long way around. Although I probably should've talked to Jill :lol:
 
P-funk said:
:laugh:

Sounds like me training some of my people.

This one woman i train at a gym in her building and she fucking baterdizes reps. She will rush through tings because it is hard, she will do half reps. I just yell at her. One day there was another trainer in there with his client and she was complaining and using sloppy form and I said "Hey! Slow down and do it right. Those are shitty reps and shitty reps get shitty results. And worse then that, you are an embarrassment to me." The other trainer and his client just starred with their jaws on the ground and couldn't believe I said that. My client slowed down her reps did them properly. :D

Bahaha. That's an awesome story.

I'm pretty lucky though. Most of my clients are pretty good about using a full ROM. However, I do get some good responses when I stick 10-11" worth of box under them and tell them to squat on it. They're like, "You want me to squat all the way down to that?!"
 
4/27/06

BW- 176

more lactic acid training. kept the bar off my back. last workout of the week....


Circuit
sets: 3
reps: 10 per exercse
rest between exercises: 20sec
rest at the end of the circuit: 2-3min

trap bar deadlift- set 1= 340, set 2= 360, set 3= 370
blast strap push ups
bent over bilateral DB row- set 1= 60, set 3= 70, set 3= 75
blast strap abdomial fallout (man I hate these)


done.....off of training for a week!! :hot:
 
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Seanp156 said:
Nice, have some cookies :nanner: ... I just had one for my b-day last night :D.


I will! happy brithday! Mine is next thursday and cookies I shall have!!:clapping:
 
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When I sock you in the gut and take your lunch money
you'll probably toss your cookies, Punk!
 
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Starbucks just gave me chocolate cupcakes. They will jump in my freezer shortly...
 
ablc said:
Starbucks just gave me chocolate cupcakes. They will jump in my freezer shortly...

what do you mean they GAVE you cupcakes? wtf??
 
ablc said:
Starbucks just gave me chocolate cupcakes. They will jump in my freezer shortly...


I want someone to give me chocolate cupcakes.
 
P-funk said:
I want someone to give me chocolate cupcakes with weed in them.

Frankly, I am very disappointed Patrick.
 
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