Do blacks externalize their problems and not take responsability for it

[HFO3]

gangs in the US have their roots in the inner cities where the war on drugs has had the most detrimental effects. then you add in all the other economic aspects of being a single mother (either black or brown) and all of the negative economic effects that come along with it.

either way you look at the equation there are no easy fixes and all of them take time, education and money. the easy solution is to just "lock them up" but with out addressing the cause there is no solution in place.

Yes to OP's question. And many other people are exactly the same way.


The solution... to this epidemic starts in the home, Fathers and Mothers actually fulfilling their obligations as parents.


Passing the buck is the SOP, blaming the war on drugs, prison for profit, not enough money, gangs, education, etc.. these are all valid points separately, they are peripherals, not the root cause of issues. The system is what it is, it doesn't dictate anything, people make their own choices in life, the system don't choose them.


The problem... It's the parents, correction, it's the lack of parenting and absentee parents that destroy kids and their potential, period. The parents have a choice everyday, "to teach or not to teach" the kids get older, then as young adults most don't know or care to learn how to function properly in society, they are what they are. It doesn't matter what their wages are, they lack fundamental values, use dysfunctional thought processes for life's daily decisions, don't respect others, themselves or authority. Many are void of very basic components, e.g.hope, character, integrity, accountability, etc...
Qualities that are needed to be a successful part of humanity and functioning as a whole. These are things that are supposed to be taught by the ones who brought us into the world, not by the world, or dictated to them by its government.

 

[SheriV]

if your referring to the slang used in the metro area by blacks that's a mystery. although in the US it's cool to be stupid and if your smart in school your an outcast, it's always been that way.

if the media was indeed fair and balanced it would talk about how whites kill whites, blacks kill blacks and brown kills brown, that's the way street crime has always been. violent crimes are almost always personal crimes and people kill other people that they know and associate with in the neighborhoods.

but the media isn't fair and balanced it has an agenda. and that agenda needs to put a face with street crime and avoid the obvious with is the direct effect of macroeconomics on certain types of street crime. it's all part of neo-liberalaism which is why street crime in the US and UK is tied to race and EVERYWHERE else in the world it's a function of economics.

I really think that's a demographic as well....high education is not only encouraged its expected where I live. I did specifically move to this area because of that however.
And not that its neither here nor there but a mixed race couple with 4 children live next door to us. I joke the black guy next door has a thousand square ft on us with a home at almost 5,000 sq ft. Not one person in my neighborhood cares.
There are a ton of middle eastern people here because we have a lot of engineering in this area..no one gives a shit about that either.

NOW three towns over there is a shitload of violence and racism ...the entire area is impoverished and the crime rate makes up the large majority of my entire states statistics.
I guess what I'm getting it is I won't make an assumption that good grades, higher education and being intelligent doesn't work because it does here. I will agree with what LW said about why throw the race card at all ever? Crime is crime. I am no less horrified when a black baby or brown baby or yellow baby is killed than I am if a white baby is killed...

I don't even know what my point is.

rambling about a problem I just don't understand from either side of the fence.

 

[LAM]

The system is what it is, it doesn't dictate anything, people make their own choices in life, the system don't choose them.

and the system is intentionally flawed to achieve a desired purpose. the economic factors that contribute to this problem are not new they have been known for hundreds of years, that being the case they are not accidental but intentional.

everybody forgets to factor the age of the US and that just because it's a relatively young nation these problems are old and economists and politicians have known about the root causes of them for a long time. only in the US were the exploited for a profit.

 

[jay_steel]

If this shit happened to my family and they were shot like this i would turn into a vigilante and just kill every fucking gangmember i saw, and when i get caught i would accept my punishment and take it like a man.

 

[Little Wing]

go to an aa meeting and tell me who doesn't own their own problems. the victim complex doesn't stick to any one group of people. poor me, poor me, pour me a drink.

 

[heckler7]

and the system is intentionally flawed to achieve a desired purpose. the economic factors that contribute to this problem are not new they have been known for hundreds of years, that being the case they are not accidental but intentional.

everybody forgets to factor the age of the US and that just because it's a relatively young nation these problems are old and economists and politicians have known about the root causes of them for a long time. only in the US were the exploited for a profit.

problem is rich are getting richer, poor are getting poorer and the burden is carried by the middle class, politicians sell out for the quickest dollar not always the most. They are all bought and paid for. Remember how the Clintons had universal healthcare on their agenda, they were paid off by the drug industry, and so Obama is catching all the heat to break the monopoly on medicine and getting objection from all around because all they politicians are getting paid to oppose it.

 

[LAM]

problem is rich are getting richer, poor are getting poorer and the burden is carried by the middle class, politicians sell out for the quickest dollar not always the most. They are all bought and paid for. Remember how the Clintons had universal healthcare on their agenda, they were paid off by the drug industry, and so Obama is catching all the heat to break the monopoly on medicine and getting objection from all around because all they politicians are getting paid to oppose it.

and all of that goes along with the post industrial economy here in the US. during the industrial revolution the government and markets new that they needed a better educated workforce which is how/why the US public education system was started.

it's also why there are vast differences in the education systems in the industrialized states vs the non-industrialized states. they did not industrialize so skilled labor was not valued as greatly. this is why the growth of cities in the north and mid-west grew so rapidly and much greater in size than in the southern states. people flocked to these cities for the higher paying industrial jobs. this is also why there has always been the divide between union labor and non-union labor, they were not needed in the southern states that did not industrialize and grow as large or as rapid.

fast forward to today to the post industrial economy we have now where 70% of US GDP is now consumption based. there is no longer a need for a skilled workforce as manufacturing has been off-shored. now the people are being dumbed down as there only purpose now is to consume. the markets can import high skilled labor for cheaper while still making all of the necessary advances in technology, etc. to continue growth where it's needed.

everything in the US is about money...

 

[HFO3]

and the system is intentionally flawed to achieve a desired purpose. the economic factors that contribute to this problem are not new they have been known for hundreds of years, that being the case they are not accidental but intentional.

everybody forgets to factor the age of the US and that just because it's a relatively young nation these problems are old and economists and politicians have known about the root causes of them for a long time. only in the US were the exploited for a profit.

This doesn't change the root cause, it adds new issues to existing fundamental problems.

 

[LAM]

This doesn't change the root cause, it adds new issues to existing fundamental problems.

if your talking about the ROOT cause it's because minorities were not integrated into the US workforce and/or education system equally during the industrial revolution. there were integrated before the start of the technological revolution and while the industrial (manufacturing based US economy) was in decline during the 60's when the rest of the OECD and world was catching up to the US.

any government that wanted to maximize productivity out of the entire workforce would have made sure the entire population was given the education and skills needed which would have increased output and productivity and of course GDP.

 

[dave 236]

Amen sister! Everyone nowdays plays the victim.

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[heckler7]

if your talking about the ROOT cause it's because minorities were not integrated into the US workforce and/or education system equally during the industrial revolution. there were integrated before the start of the technological revolution and while the industrial (manufacturing based US economy) was in decline during the 60's when the rest of the OECD and world was catching up to the US.

any government that wanted to maximize productivity out of the entire workforce would have made sure the entire population was given the education and skills needed which would have increased output and productivity and of course GDP.

I'm not really sure of how true it is any more but I have seen minorities move quickly past me in the work force, and not because they had more experience, or better education, one guy in particular was fresh out of school I even trained him on the job in a few years he went from Tech to inspector to manager, while I got laid off. As soon as he could he got me hired back because he didn't know what he was doing and needed my help.