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Do you follow a religion
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nt scribbles in his notepad TDC has opened up a whole can of whoop ass ... hope he survives ... note to self, ducking when you hearing the cry of the religious ...
Hey TCD, for the first time in 24 years of lifting I had to pray to the porcelin god last Saturday doing legs with Jill. 
Is that a religion
Is that a religion
I'm staying fffaaarrrr away from this one 
No, I think this would be worth the discussion.
Kick it off there, TCD. (I want to hear this)
Kick it off there, TCD. (I want to hear this)
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I was raised Roman Catholic, lost faith in most of it during my teenage years, and started reading up on Eastern religions. Now I'm in my mid 20's and still don't have a clue. I really like the ideals of Buddhism (being man based, rather than God), but have yet to find a religion that feels like the whole truth to me.
There's my two cents for you TCD.
<edit> Oh yeah...I think for me it's both fear and faith. Of course if there's no afterlife, I won't be around to worry about it anyway.
There's my two cents for you TCD.
<edit> Oh yeah...I think for me it's both fear and faith. Of course if there's no afterlife, I won't be around to worry about it anyway.
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I love debates about religion. Always a firey topic. Seems like the IM'ers are timid about this one though. 
Originally posted by Var
I love debates about religion. Always a firey topic. Seems like the IM'ers are timid about this one though.
I think a few remember the shit storm at another board about it is all.....personally I don`t mind at all...debate away.
Yeah, i'm a Christian. Been one for about 10yrs now.
I subscribe to my own perswonal beliefs. I do not know what they are yet, gimme a couple hundred more years and I will be able to tell you more. I find nothing wrong with religion if that is the particular philosophy you follow, just stay away from little boys and I don't have any issues with you. 
Well here comes J'Bo ready to start shit once again 
i was born a ukranian catholic and really i have no idea what that means....all i remember is having to be dragged out of the house on Sunday morning in a frilly little dress and pig tails....we had to go into this horid church that had tiny little doors (like in that kids movie that still frightens me) and creeky floors and smelled like bleach...we had to listen to someone speak about who knows what and color....then we begged our dad to take us for ice cream and we always went home for crackers and cheese instead
after about 3 years we all stopped going cause everyone whined too much.
about 2 years ago i decided to make my grandmother happy and go to see what church was all about once again.
*please dont bash me for saying this its only my impression on the church i was at*
i could not believe some of the things these people were saying and it made me very sad to hear...i left wondering if children should be explained religion more instead of brain washed and led to believe that one churches or one priests way is the correct way.
last year my father was getting remarried and wanted to have a church ceremony with his new wife (who had never been married before)....they werent allowed to go in because he was divorced and he would have had to have his first marriage anoled (however you spell it)....he refused because that would have meant that i was never born....i commend him.
after that i began to search inside myself for strength and power rather than going to listen to someone preach about something that doesnt mean anything to me. i have found it and have found a religion that isnt comprised of me chanting "i give my life to you" and so forth....
sorry for getting deep.
i was born a ukranian catholic and really i have no idea what that means....all i remember is having to be dragged out of the house on Sunday morning in a frilly little dress and pig tails....we had to go into this horid church that had tiny little doors (like in that kids movie that still frightens me) and creeky floors and smelled like bleach...we had to listen to someone speak about who knows what and color....then we begged our dad to take us for ice cream and we always went home for crackers and cheese instead
after about 3 years we all stopped going cause everyone whined too much.
about 2 years ago i decided to make my grandmother happy and go to see what church was all about once again.
*please dont bash me for saying this its only my impression on the church i was at*
i could not believe some of the things these people were saying and it made me very sad to hear...i left wondering if children should be explained religion more instead of brain washed and led to believe that one churches or one priests way is the correct way.
last year my father was getting remarried and wanted to have a church ceremony with his new wife (who had never been married before)....they werent allowed to go in because he was divorced and he would have had to have his first marriage anoled (however you spell it)....he refused because that would have meant that i was never born....i commend him.
after that i began to search inside myself for strength and power rather than going to listen to someone preach about something that doesnt mean anything to me. i have found it and have found a religion that isnt comprised of me chanting "i give my life to you" and so forth....
sorry for getting deep.
Last year, my nephew had some sort of religious event occur on his 1st birthday, I think it was a christening. So, once the ceremony finished, we were all in the lobby and some friend of my borthers in-laws went to my nephew and said, "Hello little Adam, now your not a little pagan anymore."
I just thought that was a funny little story.
I just thought that was a funny little story.
and soul.most of my family is Irish and Chatolic. Now, i do believe in God or some form of a higher power but i dont believe in church or most any form of organized religion that wants you to come to some building every week and pray for what they consider to be your sins. I dont know what God is or what the purpose of life is but i dont belive most religions do either. while most of the ideas in any religion are good the way they try to make you belive one religion is going to lead you down a path to salvation any better the another religion is wrong. while i find nothing wrong with people going to church or temple or whatever i dont like it when they start a discussion on religion and get mad when you dont believe the same as them. now i am not educated enough on all religions to consider them all the same nor am i planning on learning more about them. i am just going to live life the way i want, hopefully make the right chooses acorrding to what i beleive is right, and be able to properly correct mistakes i might make. but this is just my opinion.
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I won't get too deep into my personal beliefs, because they are mine and they are personal. But the original question and how it is phrased, shows how "personal faith" and "religion" are usually misunderstood. People can easily adhere to a faith, but unfortunately, the misinformed lump them into a religion. I've seen some religious people do some really stupid stuff...they are human afterall. But I have also known some very devout, good people overlook much of my stupidity too and not judge me for it either.
I was born and thrust into Roman Catholicism. I do not practice the religion, but I remain in it out of obligation to my family, who certainly practice more than I do. I go through the motions during the religious holidays, but to me it's just a bunch of rituals. I find it ludicrous to belive that, if there is an afterlife, my fate will be decided upon whether or not I go to church on Sundays and confess my wrongdoings to a priest. Load of crap if you ask me.
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Originally posted by Prince
TCD, why didn't you include:
If not, why?
I do not follow any religeon, cause I think they're all a load of crap!
Let me ask you this then. How did we get here?
If you answer is evolution...you have a religion. Evolution requires just as much faith as Christianity.
My intent is not to fuel this debate but to point out, everyone has religion and everyone has a god...not the God of the Bible always. Saying that there is no god indicates that you have infinite knowlege to KNOW that there is no god.
You are putting words into my mouth.
The original question asked was: "Do you follow a religeon?"
I never said that there is no god, I said that I do not follow any religeon and I think they're all a load of crap.
Let me first start by mentuoning the fact that I`m quite drunk......BUT....how does evolutionn require faith when we are surrounded by fossils etc maping it out? Sounds more like evidence than faith.
Ok my two cents- I don't belive in god as a the christian or chatholic or whaever believes in god. I do follow a set of morals that would go along with a christian or western religious belief. But I do have my own variations. My biggest thing with the whole religios as it seems everyone else here does, is that the churches make too much of a deal about exactly what faith you are and that all others are not the correct one and they will go to hell. I think that is a bunch of crap.
I don't belive in heaven or hell in the biblical sense but that when you die your spirit does move on to a better place.
This is not a opinion of someone who has never know a religion or been raised in one, but I was raised and baptised episcapol and then went a lutheran church for some time, never got into it, at tha stage of life in your preteens and teens when you listened to no one. I have seen the southern baptists, the four square or non denominational churches, the catholic, and some of my best friends are mormon and jewish. So I have had my eyes open to very different views on this subject.
But I do belive that things happen for a reason and that reason is beyond our control and who or what makes this so, we can never know.
I don't belive in heaven or hell in the biblical sense but that when you die your spirit does move on to a better place.
This is not a opinion of someone who has never know a religion or been raised in one, but I was raised and baptised episcapol and then went a lutheran church for some time, never got into it, at tha stage of life in your preteens and teens when you listened to no one. I have seen the southern baptists, the four square or non denominational churches, the catholic, and some of my best friends are mormon and jewish. So I have had my eyes open to very different views on this subject.
But I do belive that things happen for a reason and that reason is beyond our control and who or what makes this so, we can never know.
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The fossil record does not support evolution. In fact, the biggest enemy of the theory of evolution is the paleontologists.
There is very little evidence to support evolution.
I read a book called "Darwin on Trial" by an attorney (and not written from a Christian perspective) that does an excellent job of outlining why evolution is such a ridiculous theory absent the belief in a creator.
I'll stop now, I can talk about this for days.
Sounda to me like a Christian perspective that doesn`t want to be labeled as such. If I hve a chance I`ll look the book up though
Anyone anti religion has the sources to back their claim though, as anyone religious has them to back thiers.
I would love to see the background on the author, obviously he is not going to write how he was raised and what his beliefs and thoughts and views are in the book outloud, but to look at his background could give someone an insite to how the book was written, and being a lawyer he is ab;e to argue his point a bit more effectively then the lay person
Great minds think alike
