Do you like ORAL SEX?

[gococksDJS]

Bio,

You being someone who is very closed-minded and very "religious" I would expect that response from.

It was "religion" that made people think that Oral Sex was somehow wrong. It was Dr. Alfred Kinsey and his Associates and their work that helped people to UNDERSTAND accurately about ALL aspects of Sex and Sexuality FOR THEIR BENEFIT.

See this site for more information: www.indiana.edu/~kinsey/

John H.

John H, you and this guy are pieces of shit who have sick, twisted views on sex and think that you are being open minded. Religion does not teach that oral sex is wrong, and it's that piece of shit Kinsey who thinks rape is not that bad. I take great comfort in knowing that you and this fucked up guy will be talking about your twisted sex views while burning in hell for eternity.

 

[John H.]

John honestly how many posts does this crap deserve? is there any way a moderator could consolidate all of these into one post so it doesnt clog everything else up?

Bio,

Crap?

You are strange and do not know it yourself. I would bet the farm that if you wanted to speak about "religion" you would and would want no one to stop you from saying anything about that.

So what makes you think you have any "authority" or "power" to stop someone else - who is a mature adult - from discussing with others what they want to discuss? Who died and left you "boss"? Are you now "god"? Are you now the "person" everyone else has to "get permission from first before posting anything"? And get YOUR "approval" - NO ONE forces you to read anything. Are you now our "censor"?

John H.

 

[John H.]

Why is it not ok for John H. to make multiple posts about stuff but it's ok for everyone to make multiple posts about it not being ok for John to make multiple posts? You all are a bunch of bullies.

Hi Derekisdman,

I think some here think they are the "judges and jury" of what can and can not be said and by who. And ONLY "they" can "allow" someone to speak.

I would have nothing to say if people DID their own homework about the most basic things of life and living accurately so. You would not hear a word out of me. I would not have anything to say on the subject myself. I do write on other things as with anyone else, when I have the time. And I do. But this section seems to get a lot of people riled up for some reason. I guess there are a lot of people SCARED TO DEATH when the subject of Sex comes up - especially when any truth or honesty or accuracy is mentioned.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

so you think its ok to start 3 new threads and post in 2 others about the exact same thing? if he wants to talk about this thats fine with me. but when he clogs up 4 more threads than needed to do it, its kind of a pain and im going to register my discontent. its not that we are bullying him, its just none of us agree with him

Bio,

So you are then saying you do NOT like Oral Sex?

So are you then saying NO ONE ELSE should either? Are you somehow "afraid" of it? Asking honestly...

Just wondering.

John H.

 

[John H.]

John H has a super small weiner.

Hi "Warren",

You wish?

There has been some information posted about this if you want accuracy in "your reporting".

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

I enjoy giving more than receiving. Tis the season

Hi Shutupntra1n,

"...to be jolly. Fala la la la la la la la..."

I agree actually.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

John H, you and this guy are pieces of shit who have sick, twisted views on sex and think that you are being open minded. Religion does not teach that oral sex is wrong, and it's that piece of shit Kinsey who thinks rape is not that bad. I take great comfort in knowing that you and this fucked up guy will be talking about your twisted sex views while burning in hell for eternity.

Gococks,

You are a "christian", right? Just wondering. Sounds like it.

John H.

 

[gococksDJS]

Gococks,

You are a "christian", right? Just wondering. Sounds like it.

John H.

John H, you are a sick piece of shit right? Sounds like it, because this guy you so idolize is a fucking child molester who sees nothing wrong with touching children. This guy is basically Michael Jackson with a PhD, and you John H, have finally found someone who shares your sick views so you can try to convince yourself that your normal. If you think this guy is courageous than thats the same thing as saying Michael Jackson is a hero and you know it. Look at this chart and the age of the children he performed tests on. THAT IS NOT NORMAL John H, that is sick.



Kinsey, Sex and Lies 8/5/2004
By Staff
Kinsey was a silent partner in the molestation of hundreds of children.



Dr. Alfred C. Kinsey, a zoologist, revolutionized America's attitudes about sex through his books Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953). His work is the animating principle behind most sex education in America. However, analysis of his research by Judith A. Reisman, Ph.D., has yielded some alarming discoveries, including how Dr. Kinsey acquired sexual data about children. It's time to take an inventory of Kinsey's work and consider what it has brought to our society.

COMING TO CONCLUSIONS
Kinsey propagated the idea that all children are "sexual beings" from birth. The most frightening aspect of his philosophy is how he arrived at this view; Kinsey was a silent partner in the molestation of hundreds of children. The graph table below documents some of the abuse that Kinsey recorded.

In chapter five of his Male book, Tables 30-34 describe pre-adolescent children's orgasms, beginning at the age of two months.

And how did the pedophile know when the child or infant reached orgasm? The children reacted by "violent convulsions of the whole body; heavy breathing, groaning, sobbing, or more violent cries, sometimes with an abundance of tears (especially among the younger children)" (p. 161, Male volume).

Paul Gebhard, Kinsey's co-author, frankly admitted that Kinsey researchers interviewed pedophiles, and declined to report them to police. "'An example of criminality is our refusal to cooperate with authorities in apprehending a pedophile we had interviewed who was being sought for a sex murder,' Gebhard told an interviewer."

 

[Shae]

I enjoy giving more than receiving. Tis the season

You only got part of Foamy The Squirrel's saying. Its, "Tis the season to shut the fuck up and stop being a whiny little bitch!"

 

[bio-chem]

Bio,

So you are then saying you do NOT like Oral Sex?

So are you then saying NO ONE ELSE should either? Are you somehow "afraid" of it? Asking honestly...

Just wondering.

John H.

i really dont know where you got the idea to assume about my views on oral sex? remember im the closed-minded one right john. ive never posted about my views on the subject other than to say i dont believe kinsey has had any effect on my sex life what so ever. keep posting though john, your posts are quite comical, and im sure the people who are reading this are realizing your not even begining to address the real issues.

 

[Twigz]

Obviosuly you believe that sexual contact, and intercourse with a minor is OK. Well John boy I have personally seen, and delt with the side effects of actions like this. I will have to pull out a report that was done by a well respected Police Chief in Wisconsin. I will have to obtain permission to post his name. But in the report it explains how children that are molested by sick bastards that Kinsey supported cause all types of emotional problems. Which leads to a big increase in negative criminal contact with law enforcement. I post some of the findings if anyone is iterested, when I dig it out of my files.

 

[Twigz]

Oh, and by allowing this type of action to continue without notifying the authorities about it. That makes him an accessory, which in my book and many others make him just as bad as the one that did it.

Think about it, If someone decided to just start beating someone to see how the human body reacts to it, would that be ok. You will also have to add the fact that this person is a child, and did not and can not consent to the beatings. In your case you would say yes because it is in the name of science. You need your head checked.

 

[bio-chem]

Bio,

Crap?

You are strange and do not know it yourself. I would bet the farm that if you wanted to speak about "religion" you would and would want no one to stop you from saying anything about that.

So what makes you think you have any "authority" or "power" to stop someone else - who is a mature adult - from discussing with others what they want to discuss? Who died and left you "boss"? Are you now "god"? Are you now the "person" everyone else has to "get permission from first before posting anything"? And get YOUR "approval" - NO ONE forces you to read anything. Are you now our "censor"?

John H.

john the idea is you would be mature enough to censor yourself. seeing as thats not realistic, i was simply stating i felt one thread is enough and you had gone overboard to the point you where now pushing an agenda. i have no problem talking religion with open-minded individuals, and if i ever decide to do that on this forum ill open one thread in the open chat area and have a discussion. i wont however reword the question and find a way to post it in multiple threads. keep posting though john, the more people who read your posts understand what kind of close-minded, agenda pushing, and unethical person you are.

 

[Lucifer]

The best part is when I get off it blows a hole in the back of Kinsey's head.

 

[fantasma62]

The best part is when i get off it blows a hole in the back of Kinsey's head.

I don't know whether to laugh or run away crying.....

 

[John H.]

John H, you are a sick piece of shit right? Sounds like it, because this guy you so idolize is a fucking child molester who sees nothing wrong with touching children. This guy is basically Michael Jackson with a PhD, and you John H, have finally found someone who shares your sick views so you can try to convince yourself that your normal. If you think this guy is courageous than thats the same thing as saying Michael Jackson is a hero and you know it. Look at this chart and the age of the children he performed tests on. THAT IS NOT NORMAL John H, that is sick.



Kinsey, Sex and Lies 8/5/2004
By Staff
Kinsey was a silent partner in the molestation of hundreds of children.



Dr. Alfred C. Kinsey, a zoologist, revolutionized America's attitudes about sex through his books Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953). His work is the animating principle behind most sex education in America. However, analysis of his research by Judith A. Reisman, Ph.D., has yielded some alarming discoveries, including how Dr. Kinsey acquired sexual data about children. It's time to take an inventory of Kinsey's work and consider what it has brought to our society.

COMING TO CONCLUSIONS
Kinsey propagated the idea that all children are "sexual beings" from birth. The most frightening aspect of his philosophy is how he arrived at this view; Kinsey was a silent partner in the molestation of hundreds of children. The graph table below documents some of the abuse that Kinsey recorded.

In chapter five of his Male book, Tables 30-34 describe pre-adolescent children's orgasms, beginning at the age of two months.

And how did the pedophile know when the child or infant reached orgasm? The children reacted by "violent convulsions of the whole body; heavy breathing, groaning, sobbing, or more violent cries, sometimes with an abundance of tears (especially among the younger children)" (p. 161, Male volume).

Paul Gebhard, Kinsey's co-author, frankly admitted that Kinsey researchers interviewed pedophiles, and declined to report them to police. "'An example of criminality is our refusal to cooperate with authorities in apprehending a pedophile we had interviewed who was being sought for a sex murder,' Gebhard told an interviewer."

Gococks,

Dr. Kinsey and his Associates have always had those that saw what they did and appreciated the work sincerely and those that damned them for whatever reasons. Many who criticzed the work never actually read the entire work themselves. Or actually knew much about the methodology.

Try reading ALL the books in their ENTIRETY and see ALL the work that was done and why. Learn from ALL PERSPECTIVES ALL about the research, the researchers, why they did what they did and their methods and the why behind it all.

NO ONE EVER CONDONED the abuse of children EVER. NO ONE. Dr. Kinsey himself was a father and he loved his wife and his children very much. And they loved him. His research and that of his Associates was an effort to FIND TRUTHFUL ANSWERS to some of the most important and basic questions all of us have about life and living. He realized there had never been previously any real research in this area of life and living and saw the great need for truthful accurate answers and he set out to find those answers without any personal prejudice because that is how anyone who is truly a researcher and scientist ever succeeds at his work. People asked questions and as a researcher and a teacher he knew it was encumbant upon him to get those answers truthfully and without any personal bias or prejudice. Because the end result WOULD BENEFIT ALL PEOPLE. He DID his work as meticulously as is humanly possible. And under extreme circumstances.

Read this book also: DR. KINSEY AND THE INSTITUTE FOR SEX RESEARCH, by Wardell Pomeroy (New York, Harper, c1958 - subsequently reprinted later). Wardell Pomeroy was one of the researchers.

See the documentary film in THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE series, KINSEY. It was just recently broadcast on Public Broadcasting. DO your own research on ALL aspects of this subject.

Dr. Kinsey and his Associated were scientists and researchers. Scientists and researchers ARE because what they do is FIND answers to ALL questions in their area of expertise. They do that as clinically as possible without personal prejudice, hatred or bigotry.

Thousands and thousands of people attended Dr. Kinsey's seminars. He was very welcome by very many people because they could see and understand the work he was trying to do and the why behind it and saw the good he was doing for the benefit of ALL people. His books were best sellers. His work has stood the test of time over and over gain and sustained extreme scrutiny from all perspectives.

I really have no idea why it is you are attending college - or a University. With such a closed mind as you seem to have I do not see how you will ever actually learn a thing and I believe you are wasting your time and that of your Professors. That is, unless you are willing to OPEN your mind and BE OBJECTIVE about ALL things and SEE things from ALL sides of the equation. To do otherwise is a formula for failure on your part.

John H.

 

[King Silverback]

How is being disgusted at the sexual misconduct with a child being closed minded?

 

[John H.]

Obviosuly you believe that sexual contact, and intercourse with a minor is OK. Well John boy I have personally seen, and delt with the side effects of actions like this. I will have to pull out a report that was done by a well respected Police Chief in Wisconsin. I will have to obtain permission to post his name. But in the report it explains how children that are molested by sick bastards that Kinsey supported cause all types of emotional problems. Which leads to a big increase in negative criminal contact with law enforcement. I post some of the findings if anyone is iterested, when I dig it out of my files.

Hi Twigz,

You could NOT be MORE WRONG about me.

I have NEVER nor would I EVER condone the abuse of children in ANY form by anyone. Or anyone else for that matter. Dr. Kinsey and his Associates NEVER DID either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Kinsey and his Associates NEVER "...supported..." in ANY manner EVER.

READ the ENTIRE work of these researchers and see the work they did and the why and how of it all in its ENTIRETY. One of the reasons the work was done was for all people to see and to UNDERSTAND about Sexuality from all points and aspects. That never meant that all people would or should accept anything for themselves but that they would have an UNDERSTANDING of. And a truthful knowledge of.

In order to build a house one must learn about ALL aspects of that building from ALL perspectives and UNDERSTAND it truthfully and accurately. The same applies with learning about and understanding about Sex and Sexuality.



Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

john the idea is you would be mature enough to censor yourself. seeing as thats not realistic, i was simply stating i felt one thread is enough and you had gone overboard to the point you where now pushing an agenda. i have no problem talking religion with open-minded individuals, and if i ever decide to do that on this forum ill open one thread in the open chat area and have a discussion. i wont however reword the question and find a way to post it in multiple threads. keep posting though john, the more people who read your posts understand what kind of close-minded, agenda pushing, and unethical person you are.

Bio,

One thread was about the movie - motion picture - KINSEY. It is currently being shown in theaters around the nation. I have seen that film as I had the time.

One thread was about the documentary film in THE AMERICAN EXPERIENCE series as broadcast on Public Broadcasting entitled KINSEY. It is available on www.pbs.org and costs $19.95 plus shipping and handling. I have seen that film.

These are two different films. So I wrote on two different threads about each film. I saw both films at two different times. I posted about them as I saw them at the time I saw them. Nothing more. You are making out something that does not exist. But then that is what "religious zealots" do.

John H.

 

[John H.]

The best part is when I get off it blows a hole in the back of Kinsey's head.

Lucifer,

I guess by your thinking it would ALSO be "ok" for someone to do the very same thing to someone who is a "religious zealot" ...

John H.

 

[John H.]

I don't know whether to laugh or run away crying.....

Hi Tony,

I would hope you would not laugh.

Are you saying it is "ok" for someone to kill someone else because of their honest accurate sincere research into a very basic subject of life and living?

Are you saying it is "ok" for someone to kill someone because of their religious beliefs?

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

How is being disgusted at the sexual misconduct with a child being closed minded?

Archangel,

Your viewpoint on what ACTUALLY was done or not is what is disgusting.

I NEVER SAID and Dr. Kinsey and his Associates NEVER SAID any "... sexual misconduct with a child..." was at ANY TIME RIGHT. Nor did I or they EVER IMPLY that it is either.

John H.

 

[King Silverback]

I understand what your saying, I however think ANY kind of sexual misconduct with a child is disgusting!!! AND anyone who is interested in that subject in my opinion is just as bad. Not talking about people who help the abused, strictly people who think that sex with a child is okay. Do you have a child?

 

[John H.]

I understand what your saying, I however think ANY kind of sexual misconduct with a child is disgusting!!! AND anyone who is interested in that subject in my opinion is just as bad. Not talking about people who help the abused, strictly people who think that sex with a child is okay. Do you have a child?

Archangel,

In order to have knowledge of and understand sexual misconduct it has to be studied from all perspectives. That does NOT mean that those researching CONDONE it at all ever. And Dr. Kinsey and his Associates NEVER CONDONED the abuse of Children EVER. No one can ever understand anything about a subject until they do the research needed to understand it. That never implies that they condone anything they are simply doing research needed to have an understanding so the "why" can be somehow answered in an effort to correct the situation or whatever. That research must also be reported so that others can have some understanding as well. That reporting never implies there is somehow an "acceptance".

Do I have children, yes I do and I love them IMMENSELY. I NEVER would nor have I EVER condoned the abuse of children in any manner or anyone for that matter.

John H.

 

[King Silverback]

Do I have children, yes I do and I love them IMMENSELY. I NEVER would nor have I EVER condoned the abuse of children in any manner or anyone for that matter.

John H.

Then how can you support someone who was intrigued by that, and would not turn them in? What if it was with your child? Would you still support it? I think not. That is my point, and thats all.

 

[John H.]

Then how can you support someone who was intrigued by that, and would not turn them in? What if it was with your child? Would you still support it? I think not. That is my point, and thats all.

Archangel,

If it were my child - and if it were Dr. Kinsey's child - I am ABSOLUTELY SURE we would - as with anyone else - BE ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Putting it MILDLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I see exactly what you are saying. You are missing what the work was that Dr. Kinsey and his Associates did and the entirely of the "why" of it all. They NEVER condoned the abuse of children or anyone else. EVER. As scientists and researchers they only way you can get to the "bottom" of a subject is to study that subject THOROUGHLY and ACCURATELY and COMPLETELY. FOR the BETTERMENT OF ALL. For the UNDERSTANDING of the subject in its entirety. How can someone TEACH anything about any subject if they do not KNOW ALL there is to KNOW about the subject? It can not be done. Research MUST BE DONE COMPLETELY to KNOW. That does NOT MEAN they agree or accept or condone. These are people of very high educational backgrounds that ARE trained and become trained to DO research that is THOROUGH. They are the very people who are gaining knowledge - no matter where that knowledge comes from - to teach others about all aspects of any subject.

Dr. Kinsey originally studied Gull Wasps - he was a biologist. He was teaching biology at Indiana University. People approached the Regents of the College and asked if there could be a class on Marriage and Family. Dr. Kinsey was one of those asked if they would be interested in teaching this course. He said he would. So when he started his class he began getting questions from his students that even he did not know the answers to and so he thought he would just "look it up" and then tell them the answer. Well, there had been NO answers to "look up" because the research to find those answers had never been done. He thought this was radiculous!! This (Sex and Sexuality) is a BASIC subject EVERYONE needs to know about. So he then began to do the research that was needed so he could give honest, accurate, complete answers. The more research he did the more he found out ON ONE knew the answers to because the research had never been done and that there was a LOT of misinformation and outright lying being perpetuated with regard to Sex and Sexuality. He set out to set the record straight and give FACTS. Without prejudice or bias. That was his job - to BE the teacher in this area of his expertise. Any Professor must KNOW his subject to be able to teach it to others. That never means they always AGREE with every aspect of that subject. But to TEACH about that subject you MUST KNOW about ALL aspects of it. Then, your students take what they will from what they learn and make their own determinations.

Take Care, John H.

 

[fantasma62]

Hi Tony,

I would hope you would not laugh.

Are you saying it is "ok" for someone to kill someone else because of their honest accurate sincere research into a very basic subject of life and living?

Are you saying it is "ok" for someone to kill someone because of their religious beliefs?

Take Care, John H.

First off, lighten up....
I hate having to explain myself my goodness, mostly when I am joking around:

Ok, I'll explain as if you were a 5 year old:
If I saw Lucifer, I may run away crying like a little girl. That was meant as a joke. If I saw any human blowing Lucifer, I'd probably run away laughing, another joke, you know? JA JA?. What I suggested as run away laughing was if I in fact saw that Lucifer, you know, the DEVIL? would actually shoot a load and be capable of blowing someone's head clean off, another Joke, you know? JA JA? LOL? ? Do you understand now? Or do I have to go into toddler talk? Man.....

When did I say, and please quote me SINCERELY and ACCURATELY that I condoned somone dying for their "alleged" research? For religious beliefs?
I HATE PEOPLE PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH, NO I AM NOT EMPHASIZING, I AM PISSED OFF BECAUSE I HAVE HAD TO COME EXPLAIN A FREAKING COMMENT MEANT AS A JOKE.
You know what the best part about this is? That you have now completely made yourself look foolish by overanalyzing a joke John. You know what the funny thing here is? That you are staggering backwards John, nobody punched you. People are poking holes here at Kinsey's research and you are defending him with your shield and sword. Kinsey was an evil man. You don't RESEARCH ON LITTLE CHILDREN, no matter how you feel about the good of humanity. If you have ever studied psychology, you would know that children look toward adults for protection, not for abuse. The fact is that children who were ABUSED in this bullshit research, looked at the adults abusing them as their protectors and when these adults abused them they may have changed this children forever.....
I am gong to take some time researching a little on what happened to those children who Kinsey made his research on, as much as it sickens me and may even make me cry because I do love my children and I assure you, if I found out that a Doctor was doing sexual research on my children, I assure you, he or she would not ever again see the light of day, and goodness knows I am not a violent person by any stretch of the imagination.
From what I have seen John, you would gladly lend your children to Kensey and that, buddy, puts you right there with him as a deviant, not because of your lifestyle, but because of your support of toddler sex.

 

[fantasma62]

You know what John? I give up. You are right. I am tired of arguing with you. I thought you would be an entertaining conversation at some point, but based on what I am now reading, I think otherwise John. Besides, my facts are all schewed. Your facts are on the money. Nobody can disagree with you becaue Dr. Kensey is definitely good man who allowed little boys to enjoy sex like adults, as they should. He even made sure that the person who gave the children the joy of sex be protected from the outside world. Rape? that's just a woman's excuse to not liking sex. The phrase NO means NO, is just another way of saying I'll keep quiet if you are good and raping for sport is just kinky. Nothing wrong with it.

Dr. Kensey was a good researcher that meant no harm to humanity, he just tried to understand how a child's sex drive worked. I understand.....

Truly John, your facts and research are the only correct ones. Everybody is closed minded, you are the opposite. Everyone has an agenda, you don't.
We are all wrong...I have faced it, will everyone else please face the facts?

 

[ZAGLOBA]

Thousands and thousands of people attended Dr. Kinsey's seminars. He was very welcome by very many people because they could see and understand the work he was trying to do and the why behind it and saw the good he was doing for the benefit of ALL people.

John H.

Just because thousands of people attended his seminars doesn't make it right. Also, what good came from his research. I don't see any benefit from his studies. He's a regular Dr. Mengele. A real researcher would interview and question pedophiles that were already in prison and not try to protect pedophiles who were currently raping children. I hope the police keep an eye on you sicko

 

[Luke8395]

not really.